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chubsy wubsy
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Sad. The tomb of Jonah was desecrated today, and the unmarried women of Mosul are being taken for sex slavery in the name of Jihad. Churches are being burned, nuns and other christian women are being sold into sex slavery (or "married" to muslim men, if you prefer) and christians are being crucified again.

I was in Mosul. It was a beautiful place in it's own way, with a deep, rich history. And now once again men are destroying artifacts older than their religion. World Treasures are being destroyed to shouts of "Allahu Akbar". As Sharia takes hold, the age of consent becomes nine years old for girls, and they are all expected to be married by the age of 13.

And it's not *just* islam. But it sure doesn't *help*.
Links, PLZ.


Warning: The following links will lead to news sites detailing violent human rights violations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2685923/Shocking-moment-ISIS-militants-sledgehammers-Mosul-tomb-Prophet-Jonah-50-blindfolded-bodies-massacred-south-Baghdad.html

http://news.artnet.com/art-world/isis-destroying-iraqs-cultural-heritage-one-site-at-a-time-58790

http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/features/2014/07/11/feature-01

https://news.vice.com/article/iranian-child-bride-at-imminent-risk-of-execution

http://www.christianpost.com/news/thousands-of-christians-flee-as-isis-militants-burn-loot-churches-in-captured-iraqi-city-121577/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616694/Horrifying-scenes-Syria-Islamic-extremists-CRUCIFY-two-fighting-against-Muslims.html



You need to check your sources before you post them. rolleyes

ISIL is entirely different from Islam. Please don't converge the two together. Islam is one thing, while a group such as ISIL is another.

From one of your "sources"
Quote:
Islam honours women and acknowledges their right to education, work and having an opinion, which is the opposite of what ISIL is preaching, said Dahlia al-Jaddouh, an Iraqi housewife and mother of two girls.


So tell me, what book does ISIS base it's rampage on? According to Islam, muhammad took a cousin at age 6 as a wife and consummated the marriage when she was 10. Of course, according to Islam, if a woman is raped she is guilty of a zina, and can be stoned to death. Of course, a woman can not stand alone against her rapist, because the testimony of a woman is only worth half that of a man. And hey, if your wife has an opinion, you can just beat it out of her.

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion [committing a religious sin], admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. - 4:34

Don't quote the words of one housewife at me. I stood in mosul with a gun to make sure that women there could vote without men blowing them up.

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chubsy wubsy
brother_edward
Arcoon Effox
brother_edward
Sad. The tomb of Jonah was desecrated today, and the unmarried women of Mosul are being taken for sex slavery in the name of Jihad. Churches are being burned, nuns and other christian women are being sold into sex slavery (or "married" to muslim men, if you prefer) and christians are being crucified again.

I was in Mosul. It was a beautiful place in it's own way, with a deep, rich history. And now once again men are destroying artifacts older than their religion. World Treasures are being destroyed to shouts of "Allahu Akbar". As Sharia takes hold, the age of consent becomes nine years old for girls, and they are all expected to be married by the age of 13.

And it's not *just* islam. But it sure doesn't *help*.
Links, PLZ.


Warning: The following links will lead to news sites detailing violent human rights violations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2685923/Shocking-moment-ISIS-militants-sledgehammers-Mosul-tomb-Prophet-Jonah-50-blindfolded-bodies-massacred-south-Baghdad.html

http://news.artnet.com/art-world/isis-destroying-iraqs-cultural-heritage-one-site-at-a-time-58790

http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/features/2014/07/11/feature-01

https://news.vice.com/article/iranian-child-bride-at-imminent-risk-of-execution

http://www.christianpost.com/news/thousands-of-christians-flee-as-isis-militants-burn-loot-churches-in-captured-iraqi-city-121577/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616694/Horrifying-scenes-Syria-Islamic-extremists-CRUCIFY-two-fighting-against-Muslims.html



You need to check your sources before you post them. rolleyes

ISIL is entirely different from Islam. Please don't converge the two together. Islam is one thing, while a group such as ISIL is another.

From one of your "sources"
Quote:
Islam honours women and acknowledges their right to education, work and having an opinion, which is the opposite of what ISIL is preaching, said Dahlia al-Jaddouh, an Iraqi housewife and mother of two girls.


So tell me, what book does ISIS base it's rampage on? According to Islam, muhammad took a cousin at age 6 as a wife and consummated the marriage when she was 10. Of course, according to Islam, if a woman is raped she is guilty of a zina, and can be stoned to death. Of course, a woman can not stand alone against her rapist, because the testimony of a woman is only worth half that of a man. And hey, if your wife has an opinion, you can just beat it out of her.

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion [committing a religious sin], admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. - 4:34

Don't quote the words of one housewife at me. I stood in mosul with a gun to make sure that women there could vote without men blowing them up.


Also, the age of Aisha is debatable. Some scholars say she was 25 when got married and others state other things. Moreover, Aisha never had children with Muhammad. Moreover, marriage with children was also practiced in Western Europe, but these children had not come of age yet. In hotter countries, women menstruate quicker and the live span of people during this span was shorter. So being married at that age was natural. In addition, if the prophet did marry it was to establish ties with tribes that would prove to be crucial in the spread of Islam across the region. Remove this hatred you have of what Muslims have done in the name of Islam and examine Islam by itself. Muhammad did not "take her" she was offered by her father and Aisha loved Muhammad. She was respected and was loved the most by him, and they NEVER had children. So he did not abuse her!!!

You take things out of context. sweatdrop and do not understand. So, I will just let you keep your ignorance as trying to reason with ignorance is kind of difficult.

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Links, PLZ.


Warning: The following links will lead to news sites detailing violent human rights violations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2685923/Shocking-moment-ISIS-militants-sledgehammers-Mosul-tomb-Prophet-Jonah-50-blindfolded-bodies-massacred-south-Baghdad.html

http://news.artnet.com/art-world/isis-destroying-iraqs-cultural-heritage-one-site-at-a-time-58790

http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/features/2014/07/11/feature-01

https://news.vice.com/article/iranian-child-bride-at-imminent-risk-of-execution

http://www.christianpost.com/news/thousands-of-christians-flee-as-isis-militants-burn-loot-churches-in-captured-iraqi-city-121577/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616694/Horrifying-scenes-Syria-Islamic-extremists-CRUCIFY-two-fighting-against-Muslims.html



You need to check your sources before you post them. rolleyes

ISIL is entirely different from Islam. Please don't converge the two together. Islam is one thing, while a group such as ISIL is another.

From one of your "sources"
Quote:
Islam honours women and acknowledges their right to education, work and having an opinion, which is the opposite of what ISIL is preaching, said Dahlia al-Jaddouh, an Iraqi housewife and mother of two girls.


So tell me, what book does ISIS base it's rampage on? According to Islam, muhammad took a cousin at age 6 as a wife and consummated the marriage when she was 10. Of course, according to Islam, if a woman is raped she is guilty of a zina, and can be stoned to death. Of course, a woman can not stand alone against her rapist, because the testimony of a woman is only worth half that of a man. And hey, if your wife has an opinion, you can just beat it out of her.

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion [committing a religious sin], admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. - 4:34

Don't quote the words of one housewife at me. I stood in mosul with a gun to make sure that women there could vote without men blowing them up.


Also, the age of Aisha is debatable. Some scholars say she was 25 when got married and others state other things. Moreover, Aisha never had children with Muhammad. Moreover, marriage with children was also practiced in Western Europe, but these children had not come of age yet. In hotter countries, women menstruate quicker and the live span of people during this span was shorter. So being married at that age was natural. In addition, if the prophet did marry it was to establish ties with tribes that would prove to be crucial in the spread of Islam across the region. Remove this hatred you have of what Muslims have done in the name of Islam and examine Islam by itself. Muhammad did not "take her" she was offered by her father and Aisha loved Muhammad. She was respected and was loved the most by him, and they NEVER had children. So he did not abuse her!!!

You take things out of context. sweatdrop and do not understand. So, I will just let you keep your ignorance as trying to reason with ignorance is kind of difficult.


Sahih Bukhari,
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:

Narrated Aisha:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

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Why are you defending a man in his fifties having sex with a nine year old girl?
If you wish to believe in Islam, please be proactively denouncing the radicals. Christians actively denounce Westboro on their Facebooks and such. Please do the same.

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