Ameixah
Athena_Ritashe
One big problem… when you get down to it the thing I did wrong is EXIST. I don’t have to do anything. Breathing is what earns me hellfire. God is mad at me from the time I begin to exist until I start saying I’m so sorry I exist and that I’m grateful that he created me. But he loves me? If he loved me he wouldn’t gleefully torture me, whether I am worshipful or not.
God is not really mad at you in particular, or personally. What God hates is disobedience, wickedness, and sin. God knows you're not perfect, and He knows we are all sinners; which is why he sent Jesus to die to save us from our sins. If God didn't want you to exist, you wouldn't have.
Ummm, this makes no sense. First of all can you back this statement up at all? scripture? But let's set that aside. So God doesn't hate me particularly, but loves me particularly? So why would he have individual judgement, where he recounts your misdeeds and then casts you in the lake of fire? (or if you're "saved" cast into heaven) If it's not personal, then the species would be judged as a whole. It's individual, and it is personal.
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So which is it? Is God loving? Is he hateful and petty? Does he not really care? Is he each? If you are Hitler and you adore the followers who love and praise you why you are still a monster, no matter how kind you are to the Nazis who adore you. And just to take the analogy further: Is it okay what Hitler did to the Jews if he offered them a pardon if they denied their Jewishness and became Nazis? NO!
God didn't make you a slave, or a drone; he gave you free will. Which is why he wants you to see His way and choose Him openly, with your own mind. God loves believers and non-believers that's why He sent His son.
"I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent." - Luke 15:7
As a Nazi you had free will too. You didn't have to hail Hitler and salute with your right arm. You didn't have to attend propoganda meetings or hang a picture of Hitler in your home. These things were highly encouraged. Just don't be surprised if you're snached away in the middle of the night and shoved into a cattle car on its way to a concentration camp.
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Fact is Christianity and Islam scare me. They have a God that is angry and petty and will torture you forever just for existing. At least in Islam they just say “God is God, he can do whatever he wants.” The fact is I see these religions as so internally contradictory that they cannot be real. If I was a Christian I’d be worshiping a divine Hitler. You’d better “Sieg Hail!” and throw you right arm up or you’re going to the concentration camp. Your God is not love. Your God may not really exist.
God is not like Hitler because he is not fascist or racist. God is angry now, and was angry back then, because people around the world are making children child prostitutes, sacrificing their children to idols, not sharing wealth, practicing cannibalism, indulging in wicked behavior without a conscience, oppressing people, murdering one another ect. All the evil in the world is why God is really angry, not just because of your own personal sin and disbelief. God gives chances, which is why He's an open ear whenever people who have gone astray come to Him. He is merciful. And He loves you.
(Comparing God to Hitler is very strange considering His divine son is a Jew.
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God is like Hitler because, like Hitler, God puts people in two camps. You're either a "good" Nazi or an "evil" Jew. Likewise you're either "good" and "saved" or "evil" and "unsaved". And the evil unsaved people, just like the Jews, are tortured. Only unsaved people get tortured forever.
You list a bunch of bad things and say that God hates them, which I think is BS. Why? For one, God permitted a lot of murder and mayhem back in the good old Old Testament. Genocide, slavery, rape, and murder all ordered by God. And two, so long as you get "saved" God can overlook anything. You can do anything as long as you repent. Why did God ordain genocide? Because those Caananites worshipped the wrong God, pretty much that simple. Oh, and they were in the wrong place, at the wrong time. God doesn't care about what you do, he cares about if you worship him or not.
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Either you have totally warped and misrepresented God, or this “God” doesn’t really exist. How can God be so petty as to torture someone forever for not worshiping him, and yet be called “loving”? It makes no sense.
Unbelievers and unrighteous souls go to Sheol/Hades after they die. Believers who've died are already judged and dwell in paradise. Unbelievers, and the wicked, await the final judgement in the lost side of Sheol. (Sheol is a temporary holding place, almost like a prison). Wicked people, and unbelievers, who died unrepentant, will be resurrected for the final judgement. Jesus is the final judge of who goes to the eternal hell (the lake of fire) or not. The unforgivable sin is rejecting Jesus and His offer of forgiveness, and blaspheming the Holy Spirit. (And don't worry, you probably haven't done it.)
Yes, yes, I'm pretty sure I covered that. You worship God, you go to heaven and if you don't you go to hell. We've all heard this. But the point I made got lost to you.
1. The Bible states that God is love, and loves everyone.
2. The Bible claims everyone is sinful, and that even thoughts are sin.
3. The Bible claims that everyone who sins will go to hell, except those that pardoned by Jesus.
How can you love everyone and still order everyone (except the ones who take the loophole) to be tortured?
How can you say you love everyone, everyone except people who live (eennee, meennniee miney mo) Asia, and think all Asians should have their feet burned off? (Please note: I love Asians, my BF is Chinese, this is pure hypothetical.) Either you love everyone, or you like certain people and don’t like others. God doesn’t love everyone, the ones that aren’t into unquestioning obedience are the ones he wants to hurt the most. He’s a bigot, just like most people are.