Is Freedom of Religion Un-American

[DarkSohisohi]

So I saw this meme, and it got me thinking, is Freedom of Religion truly Un-American?

[DarkSohisohi]

I guess to further expand on this idea, here in America we have Freedom of Speech. You can, if you so chose, use your freedom of speech to bash freedom of speech and even attempt to take it way from yourself constitutionally. Basically, you can protest against your right to free speech if you so wish. The question then becomes, should you and is such an action unamerican? Granted, you are taking advantage of your freedom to it's fullest form. . . But is it right and is it American? I guess, that all depends on what it means to be an American. Is it just about where you are born or is there more to it. Which, bring us to the question of freedom of religion. You have the freedom to submit yourself to the rule of other, bondage and slavery, by your own will. But should you as a freedom loving American?

[The Herald of War]

Why the hell should anyone care if it's 'unamerican'? That just seems like a stupid thing to be concerned with. What matters if it is ethical and/or whether it is useful to a goal we ought to be going for. That's the reasonable criteria for a good law, not how 'american' it is.

[DarkSohisohi]

The Herald of War

Why the hell should anyone care if it's 'unamerican'? That just seems like a stupid thing to be concerned with. What matters if it is ethical and/or whether it is useful to a goal we ought to be going for. That's the reasonable criteria for a good law, not how 'american' it is.

Would you support monarchy in America?

[The Herald of War]

DarkSohisohi

The Herald of War

Why the hell should anyone care if it's 'unamerican'? That just seems like a stupid thing to be concerned with. What matters if it is ethical and/or whether it is useful to a goal we ought to be going for. That's the reasonable criteria for a good law, not how 'american' it is.

Would you support monarchy in America?

I wouldn't support it anywhere. Why does that matter? I hope you're not going to do something stupid and talk about how american or unamerican it is, as if it was part of why I would not.

[catspook]

No - there is no basis to claim that submitting to a king willingly (divine or otherwise) is un-American. The issue was being forced to submit to a king unwillingly.

[God Emperor Baldur]

In the US, you can choose to worship a divine king. The US however doesn't follow any king be him mortal or divine.

[King Shining Heaven]

Ridiculous; if it were un-American, it wouldn't be in the Constitution.

[Bogotanian]

What time period of "American" are we talking about?

[Xiam]

DarkSohisohi

So I saw this meme, and it got me thinking, is Freedom of Religion truly Un-American?

The actual term is "macro," not "meme." Memes are like cultural diseases. A viral video, or an in-joke, would be more of a meme than writing on a picture.

Considering the first amendment is specifically about freedom of religion (among others), saying that Congress can make no law that supports a "state religion," I'd say it's plenty American.

Though I do see the oddity that the colonists fought back against a king, then there was some wariness of George Washington becoming the King of America (the way I understand it, he too was uncomfortable with it), and yet Christians are some of the loudest patriots, who worship a sort of cosmic monarch.

But, diversity is a big thing here, and in spite of McCarthyism, one's beliefs are their own and do not necessarily have to do with one's citizenship, or national loyalty.

[God Emperor Baldur]

It would be unamerican for the US government to submit their allegiance to a deity. To swear allegiance to a deity personally is your choice and your right.

[Shama_okami]

So some random person put together some words that may sound good at first glance with a picture obviously intended to make it look patriotic and that was all it took to make you question one of the pillars of our culture?

[Avgvsto]

I disagree with Pat's beliefs in that area, although i have some real great respect for him.

[DarkSohisohi]

Shama_okami

So some random person put together some words that may sound good at first glance with a picture obviously intended to make it look patriotic and that was all it took to make you question one of the pillars of our culture?

God Emperor Baldur

It would be unamerican for the US government to submit their allegiance to a deity. To swear allegiance to a deity personally is your choice and your right.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we should throw out freedom of religion. I'm just saying we are uing that particulate freedom wrongly. Just like someone who protests against his right to protest or speaks against this freedom of speech. The idea that, the founding fathers would debate so vigorously to prevent the rising of a monarchy in this country so people could then turn around and shackle themselves back into bondage to some total divine cosmic monarchy. . . Is, well, un-american.