If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian.

[Ananel]

Takara_Ashley

I don't really think so. To me, God is just made up of Human emotions from all around the world. Humans have the power to decide if your being a bad christian or not...not the icon of our feelings. That is not to make other people feel bad. 3nodding

I don't think, Takara, that you are speaking of the Christian God. The being that you describe is not the deity as recorded in the Christian Scriptures or in any Christian theological perspective. As such, I don't know that your opinion on whether or not a person can come to grips with the true deity or his/her/it's perspective on homosexuality really helps a specifically Christian persepctive. You're simply not speaking within the narrative of Christianity at all.

[linaloki]

Servus Dei

ty_ping

As a Catholic or Christian in general?
(because if Catholic is the ony type of Christian in your worldview then any other baptismals do not count)

Technically, all baptised Christians are baptised into the Catholic Church.

o_O ORLY? Last I checked, being baptized was just a proclaimation of your faith, and was not required for entry into heaven. Which, as I also recall, is what the Catholics believe. Which, of course, makes me wonder, how are you cooking this BS up?

[TitaniumCeadda]

Excuse me, your interpretation is all wrong. Try learning the Bible before using it.

1. " Love thy neighbor as thyself" doesn't mean to want to get in their pants, and thinking a Christian MUST hate all homosexuals is a stereotype.

2. Again, Christains do not judge these people, but merely reject their beleifs, as the Book of Exodus examples, where the people at the foot of the mountain are being homosexual and lesbianic. This enrages God's man, Mosses, and he eventually ends up with all the homosexuals and lesbians killed for their abominational sin that had noforgiveness, from their lack of asking and then repenting from what they did.

3. God has mentioned many times the Bible over that homosexuality is an abomination unto Him, which further ruins this life style. I'd provide a verse for this, but you may want to actually READ the Bible before you try using it, thanks.

4. You DON'T have to get married. It is a choice where God unites you with who you belong with in a matromony of love, and it is a holy union. Two homosexuals being united in marriage is completely wrong, becuase they lack the ability to even reproduce, for one, and, as I mentioned, it IS an abomination to God. The proof is in the pudding, or this case, the Bible.

Saying that the Bible is a mistranslation is a bit of blasphemy. If you don't know what that is, look up the story of David and Goliath, and WHY do you think homosexual queers are so rejected? Becuase their love is an unnatural one, dealing with lust and rebellion against nature itself. Have you seen a male horse go at it with another male horse? If you have, PLEASE send me evidence, becuase the horse is another part of nature, who follows it to further the species.

So, according to what you say, NO laws apply from the Old Testemant? Oh, yipee! Let's go kill everyone we know, rape them, worship rocks, and loot the corpses! NOT. That was an example of how much more out of control things would be without the 10 Commandments. You see, you merely base yourself off of your own ignorant veiw, by twisting the truth until it is unrecognizable.

In closing, Homosexuality is an abomination to God, and if you think this unnatural love is better than how God made nature, then you probably need therapy. Thank you.

[maybecca]

Titaniumceadda

4. You DON'T have to get married. It is a choice where God unites you with who you belong with in a matromony of love, and it is a holy union. Two homosexuals being united in marriage is completely wrong, becuase they lack the ability to even reproduce, for one

What about infertile couples, or those who choose not to reproduce?

Also, did you actually read the first post?

[jaden kendam]

Titaniumceadda

Tripe.

1. Collosians 2:14. Look it up. It says the Old Laws are fullfilled.

2. The Ten Commandments falls under the Law of Agape. Care to explain how killing someone would be justified under Jesus' teachings?

3. If you follow one of the Old Laws, then you must follow them all. No clothes that are blended with other materials. No shrimp, crab, or lobster for you then.

4. Marriage is not just a Christian thing. Other religions, even ones before Christianity had a concept of marriage.

5. The Greeks, Egyptians, Romans kind of frowned on murder and theft, so prove that if it was not for the Ten Commandments that we would have been in Anarchy.

[Servus Dei]

linaloki

o_O ORLY? Last I checked, being baptized was just a proclaimation of your faith, and was not required for entry into heaven.

Not according to the Catholic faith.

"Unless a man be born of water and spirit, he cannot have life everlasting."
"Remember brethren, when I baptised you, you were baptised into the death of Christ."

[Solarn]

Titaniumceadda

Excuse me, your interpretation is all wrong. Try learning the Bible before using it.

1. " Love thy neighbor as thyself" doesn't mean to want to get in their pants, and thinking a Christian MUST hate all homosexuals is a stereotype.

2. Again, Christains do not judge these people, but merely reject their beleifs, as the Book of Exodus examples, where the people at the foot of the mountain are being homosexual and lesbianic. This enrages God's man, Mosses, and he eventually ends up with all the homosexuals and lesbians killed for their abominational sin that had noforgiveness, from their lack of asking and then repenting from what they did.

3. God has mentioned many times the Bible over that homosexuality is an abomination unto Him, which further ruins this life style. I'd provide a verse for this, but you may want to actually READ the Bible before you try using it, thanks.

4. You DON'T have to get married. It is a choice where God unites you with who you belong with in a matromony of love, and it is a holy union. Two homosexuals being united in marriage is completely wrong, becuase they lack the ability to even reproduce, for one, and, as I mentioned, it IS an abomination to God. The proof is in the pudding, or this case, the Bible.

Saying that the Bible is a mistranslation is a bit of blasphemy. If you don't know what that is, look up the story of David and Goliath, and WHY do you think homosexual queers are so rejected? Becuase their love is an unnatural one, dealing with lust and rebellion against nature itself. Have you seen a male horse go at it with another male horse? If you have, PLEASE send me evidence, becuase the horse is another part of nature, who follows it to further the species.

So, according to what you say, NO laws apply from the Old Testemant? Oh, yipee! Let's go kill everyone we know, rape them, worship rocks, and loot the corpses! NOT. That was an example of how much more out of control things would be without the 10 Commandments. You see, you merely base yourself off of your own ignorant veiw, by twisting the truth until it is unrecognizable.

In closing, Homosexuality is an abomination to God, and if you think this unnatural love is better than how God made nature, then you probably need therapy. Thank you.

Wow. Just... wow. You managed to display a greater lack of understanding of this thread's arguments than all the n00bs who ever came here, with better grammar. Please try to actually read the Bible before you try to use it in arguments. Also, your post reeks of ad hominem, which is very unwelcome here.

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[Servus Dei]

ty_ping

So even the Hertitics and Blasphimers can baptise?

So long as you have the right intent, faith, and formula, and matter.

As long as you have a right faith of Our Lord Jesus Christ, believe in the triune God, and that Christ is really God and really Man (two natures, but one person), and you use water to baptise WITH WATER (Though I suppose in danger of death, and you don't have water, you could probably use even gasoline) an unbaptised person "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" into the Body of Christ, then the baptism is valid.

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Did the Catholic church somehoe copyright baptismal and now just lolz whenever some prodistant gets baptised because they can claim ownership over the soul and damn them on default?

No, we just lolz when a mormon, gnostic, or someone like them gets "baptized."

[IB a Survivor]

Titaniumceadda

1. " Love thy neighbor as thyself" doesn't mean to want to get in their pants, and thinking a Christian MUST hate all homosexuals is a stereotype.

The use of that verse was more of a plea to stop the "You're a f** who gets no rights" sort of thing.

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2. Again, Christains do not judge these people, but merely reject their beleifs, as the Book of Exodus examples, where the people at the foot of the mountain are being homosexual and lesbianic. This enrages God's man, Mosses, and he eventually ends up with all the homosexuals and lesbians killed for their abominational sin that had noforgiveness, from their lack of asking and then repenting from what they did.

Citation?

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3. God has mentioned many times the Bible over that homosexuality is an abomination unto Him, which further ruins this life style. I'd provide a verse for this, but you may want to actually READ the Bible before you try using it, thanks.

Burden of proof falls on you. And I'm quite sure we're familiar with the verses.
Hint: UNless you're willing to give up vegetable gardens, shaving, shellfish, pork, and opressing your neighbor, you have no business citing Leviticus.

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4. You DON'T have to get married. It is a choice where God unites you with who you belong with in a matromony of love, and it is a holy union.

Tell that to the people who insist on attaching hundreds of LEGAL rights to HOLY marriages.

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Two homosexuals being united in marriage is completely wrong, becuase they lack the ability to even reproduce, for one,

So infertile, childfree, and old people shouldn't be married either? I though marriage was about love, not kids. Hell, even you just said that.

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and, as I mentioned, it IS an abomination to God. The proof is in the pudding, or this case, the Bible.

Again, cite your verses. I could argue against them but don't feel like typing up a novel.

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Saying that the Bible is a mistranslation is a bit of blasphemy.

Or truth. I'd like top see you translate teh Bible from Hebrew/Koine/Latin to English perfectly.

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If you don't know what that is, look up the story of David and Goliath,

What do tehy have to do with this?

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and WHY do you think homosexual queers are so rejected?

Because people are bigots?

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Becuase their love is an unnatural one, dealing with lust and rebellion against nature itself.

If it wasn't natural it wouldn't exist in many animal species. Don't make me drag out the list.
Besides, what's more unnatural: Going by an attraction over which you have no control, or denying it?

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Have you seen a male horse go at it with another male horse?

Yes. I've also seen monkeys and lizards do the same thing.

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If you have, PLEASE send me evidence

I didn't take pictures, perve.

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becuase the horse is another part of nature, who follows it to further the species.

So? If god wanted every animal (including humans) to reproduce the Earth wouldn't have a carrying capacity.

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So, according to what you say, NO laws apply from the Old Testemant? Oh, yipee! Let's go kill everyone we know, rape them, worship rocks, and loot the corpses! NOT. That was an example of how much more out of control things would be without the 10 Commandments.

Except Jesus approved of those ten commandments. Only those, and not the rest of the commandments in teh OT.

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You see, you merely base yourself off of your own ignorant veiw, by twisting the truth until it is unrecognizable.

FSTDT would give you a "Death by irony overdose" award.

[TrunkstheSlayer]

Titaniumceadda

Excuse me, your interpretation is all wrong. Try learning the Bible before using it.

1. " Love thy neighbor as thyself" doesn't mean to want to get in their pants, and thinking a Christian MUST hate all homosexuals is a stereotype.

Nobody claimed otherwise genius

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2. Again, Christains do not judge these people, but merely reject their beleifs, as the Book of Exodus examples, where the people at the foot of the mountain are being homosexual and lesbianic.

First off you fail here instantly for two reasons:
1-not only can you not name the city but you lie about what happened
2-you make up a moronic word

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This enrages God's man, Mosses, and he eventually ends up with all the homosexuals and lesbians killed for their abominational sin that had noforgiveness, from their lack of asking and then repenting from what they did.

Scripture or admit you're lying

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3. God has mentioned many times the Bible over that homosexuality is an abomination unto Him, which further ruins this life style. I'd provide a verse for this, but you may want to actually READ the Bible before you try using it, thanks.

Nice cop out. Read the first post. There isn't a single verse that backs your idiotic rambling

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4. You DON'T have to get married. It is a choice where God unites you with who you belong with in a matromony of love, and it is a holy union. Two homosexuals being united in marriage is completely wrong, becuase they lack the ability to even reproduce,

So you hate infertile couples for wedding as well yes?

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for one, and, as I mentioned, it IS an abomination to God. The proof is in the pudding, or this case, the Bible.

To bad the Bible doesn't back you

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Saying that the Bible is a mistranslation is a bit of blasphemy.

Again you prove yourself as illiterate. Nobody claimed the Bible as a mistranslation. The ENGLISH is what is mistranslated. It's hardly blasphemy when any idiot can see it

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If you don't know what that is, look up the story of David and Goliath, and WHY do you think homosexual queers are so rejected? Becuase their love is an unnatural one,

Nature proves you wrong

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dealing with lust and rebellion against nature itself. Have you seen a male horse go at it with another male horse?

Yes as a matter of fact. As well as hundreds of other species

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If you have, PLEASE send me evidence, becuase the horse is another part of nature, who follows it to further the species.

Do you need a specific horse or will a slew of other species suffice?

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So, according to what you say, NO laws apply from the Old Testemant? Oh, yipee! Let's go kill everyone we know, rape them, worship rocks, and loot the corpses! NOT.

Again you fail at your own religion. NT resums up all the laws you just spat at...well except the rock thing but that wasn't even mentioned in the OT to my recollection

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That was an example of how much more out of control things would be without the 10 Commandments. You see, you merely base yourself off of your own ignorant veiw, by twisting the truth until it is unrecognizable.

Look at you Mr. Hypocrite. Chrst himself says you're a moron. Try taking your own damn advice and read the Bible sometime

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In closing, Homosexuality is an abomination to God,

If you're a Muslim perhaps

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and if you think this unnatural love is better than how God made nature, then you probably need therapy

Are you high or just a troll? Nobody ever used the word 'better' and you're the idiot claiming things to be unnatural when nature itself proves otherwise

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. Thank you.

Seriously kid, get rid of yourself now and save God the trouble of being creative. You don't know s**t about this topic in even the tiniest of ways

[IB a Survivor]

Pandora Box

This is a complete list of animals that homosexuality is seen in. Taken from Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity by Bruce Bagemihl, Ph.D.

PRIMATES
Bonobo/Pygmy chimpanzee
Common chimpanzee
Gorilla
Orangutan
White-headed gibbon
Siamang
Hanuman langur
Nilgiri langur
Proboscis monkey
Golden monkey
Japanese macaque
Rhesus macaque
Stumptail macaque
Bonnet macaque
Crab-eating macaque
Pig-tailed macaque
Crested black macaque
Savanna baboon
Hamadryas baboon
Gelada baboon
Squirrel monkey
Rufous-naped tamarin
Verreaux's Sifaka
Lesser bushbaby

MARINE MAMMALS
Boto/Amazon River dolphin
Bottlenose dolphin
Spinner dolphin
Orca/Killer whale
Gray whale
Bowhead whale
Right whale
Gray seal
Northorn elephant seal
Harbor seal
Australian sea lion
New Zealand sea lion
Northern fur seal
Walrus
West Indian manatee

HOOFED MAMMALS
White-tailed deer
Black-tailed deer
Elk/Red deer
Swamp deer
Caribou
Moose
Giraffe
Pronghorn
Kob
Waterbuck
Blackbuck
Thomson's gazelle
Grant's gazelle
Bighorn sheep
Thinhorn/Dall's sheep
Asiaticc mouflon
Musk-ox
Mountain goat
American bison
European bison
African buffalo
Moutanin zebra
Plains zebra
Takhi/Przewalski's horse
Warthog
Javelina
Vicuna
African elephant
Asiatic elephant

OTHER MAMMALS
Lion
Cheetah
Red fox
Gray wolf
Bush dog
Grizzly bear
American black bear
Spotted hyena
Eastern gray kangaroo
Red-necked wallaby
Whiptail/Pretty-faced wallaby
Rat kangaroo
Doria's tree kangaroo
Matschie's tree kangaroo
Koala
Fat-tailed dunnart
Northern quoll
American red squirrel
Gray squirrel
Chipmunk
Olympic marmot
Hoary marmot
Dwarf cavy
Yellow-toothed cavy
Aperea/Wild cavy
Long-eared hedgehog
Gray-headed flying fox
Fruit bat
Vampire bat

WATERFOWL & OTHER AQUATIC BIRDS
Grelag goose
Canada goose
Snow goose
Black swan
Mute swan
Mallard duck
Blue-winged teal
Lesser Scaup duck
Australian shelduck
Musk duck
Common murre/guillemot
Laysan albatross
Great cormorant
European shag
Black-crowned night heron
Cattle egret
Little egret
Little blue heron
Gray heron
Purple swamphen
Tasmanian native hen
Dusky moorhen
Hammerhead
Flamingo

SHORE BIRDS
Ruff-breasted sandpiper
Greenshank
Redshank
Black-winged stilt
Black stilt
Oystercatcher
Golden plover
Ring-billed gull
Common gull
Western gull
Kittiwake
Silver gull
Herring gull
Black-headed gull
Laughing gull
Caspian tern
Roseate tern

PERCHING BIRDS
Guianan c**k-ofthe-rock
Calfbird
Swallow-tailed manakin
Blue-backed manakin
Bicolored antbird
Ocellated antbird
Ocher-bellied flycatcher
Tree swallow
Cliff swallow
Bank swallow/Sand martin
Hooded warbler
Chaffinch
Scottish crossbill
Red-backed shrike
Blue tit
Eastern bluebird
Gray-capped social weaver
Sociable weaver
Red bishop bird
Orange bishop bird
House sparrow
Brown-headed cowbird
Wattled starling
Black-billed magpie
Jackdaw
Raven
Raggiana's bird of paradise
Victoria's riflebird
Regent bowerbird
Superb lyrebird

OTHER BIRDS
Ostrich
Emu
Greater rhea
Humboldt penguin
King penguin
Gentoo penguin
Kestrel
Griffon vulture
Sage grouse
Ruffed grouse
Long-tailed hermit hummingbird
Anna's hummingbird
Black-rumped flameback
Acorn woodpecker
Pied kingfisher
Blue-bellied roller
Roseate cockatoo
Peace-faced lovebird
Orange-fronted parakeet

REPTILES AND AMPHIBIANS
Common ameiva
Jamaican giant anole
Green anole
Brown anole
Larehead anole
Checkered whiptail lizard
Desert grassland whiptail lizard
Plateau striped whiptail lizard
Broad-backed skink
Five-lined skink
Red-tailed skink
Inagua curly-tailed lizard
Mourning gecko
Western banded gecko
Fence lizard
Wood turtle
Desert tortoise
Tengger desert toad
Black-spotted frog
Moutain dusky salamander
Garter snake
Water moccasin
Red diamond rattlesnake
Specked rattlesnake
Western rattlesnake

FISH
Blackstripe topminnow
Green swordtail
Southern platyfish
Gluegill sunfish
Guiana leaffish
Least darter
Jewel fish
Mouthbreeding fish
Char
Houting whitefish
Grayling

INSECTS
Clubtail dragonfly
Broadwinged damselfly
Spreadwinged damselfly
Narrow-winged damselfly
Common skimmer dragonfly
Field cricket
Migratory locust
Cockroach
Large milkweed bug
Southern green stink bug
Water strider bug
Bedbug
Green lacewing
Queen butterfly
Monarch butterfly
Checkerspot butterfly
Large white
Glasswing butterfly
Mazarine Blue
Larch bud moth
Grape berry moth
Silkworm moth
Blister beetle
Rove beetle
Stag beetle
Red flour beetle
Alfalfa weevil
Bean weevil
Southern one-year canegrub
Japanese scarab beetle
Souther masked chafter
House fly
Tsetse fly
Stable fly
Blowfly
Long-legged fly
Mediterranean fruit fly
Other fruit fly
Hen flea
Digger bee
Southeastern blueberry bee
Ichneuman wasp
Australian parasitic wasp
Red ant

SPIDERS & OTHER INVERTEBRATES
Hawaiin orb-weaver
Jumping spider
Harvest spider
Box crab
Mite
Acanthocephalan worms
Incirrate octopus

DOMESTICATED ANIMALS
Sheep
Goat
Cattle
Horse
Donkey
Pig
Cat
Dog
Guinea Pig
Rabbit
Rat
Mouse
Hamster
Bengalese Finch
Zebra Finch
Trukey
Chicken
Pigeon
Budgerigar

[TitaniumCeadda]

deadmanjake

Titaniumceadda

Tripe.

1. Collosians 2:14. Look it up. It says the Old Laws are fullfilled.

2. The Ten Commandments falls under the Law of Agape. Care to explain how killing someone would be justified under Jesus' teachings?

3. If you follow one of the Old Laws, then you must follow them all. No clothes that are blended with other materials. No shrimp, crab, or lobster for you then.

4. Marriage is not just a Christian thing. Other religions, even ones before Christianity had a concept of marriage.

5. The Greeks, Egyptians, Romans kind of frowned on murder and theft, so prove that if it was not for the Ten Commandments that we would have been in Anarchy.

If you read what I put, you would know that I was insulting the beleif of killing being okay, and so on. Also, things such as pork are justified when cooked, becuase otherwise you could get a worm. Duh. And, without morals such as the Ten Commandments, we would be in a literal Hell on Earth.

[TitaniumCeadda]

Solarn

Titaniumceadda

Excuse me, your interpretation is all wrong. Try learning the Bible before using it.

1. " Love thy neighbor as thyself" doesn't mean to want to get in their pants, and thinking a Christian MUST hate all homosexuals is a stereotype.

2. Again, Christains do not judge these people, but merely reject their beleifs, as the Book of Exodus examples, where the people at the foot of the mountain are being homosexual and lesbianic. This enrages God's man, Mosses, and he eventually ends up with all the homosexuals and lesbians killed for their abominational sin that had noforgiveness, from their lack of asking and then repenting from what they did.

3. God has mentioned many times the Bible over that homosexuality is an abomination unto Him, which further ruins this life style. I'd provide a verse for this, but you may want to actually READ the Bible before you try using it, thanks.

4. You DON'T have to get married. It is a choice where God unites you with who you belong with in a matromony of love, and it is a holy union. Two homosexuals being united in marriage is completely wrong, becuase they lack the ability to even reproduce, for one, and, as I mentioned, it IS an abomination to God. The proof is in the pudding, or this case, the Bible.

Saying that the Bible is a mistranslation is a bit of blasphemy. If you don't know what that is, look up the story of David and Goliath, and WHY do you think homosexual queers are so rejected? Becuase their love is an unnatural one, dealing with lust and rebellion against nature itself. Have you seen a male horse go at it with another male horse? If you have, PLEASE send me evidence, becuase the horse is another part of nature, who follows it to further the species.

So, according to what you say, NO laws apply from the Old Testemant? Oh, yipee! Let's go kill everyone we know, rape them, worship rocks, and loot the corpses! NOT. That was an example of how much more out of control things would be without the 10 Commandments. You see, you merely base yourself off of your own ignorant veiw, by twisting the truth until it is unrecognizable.

In closing, Homosexuality is an abomination to God, and if you think this unnatural love is better than how God made nature, then you probably need therapy. Thank you.

Wow. Just... wow. You managed to display a greater lack of understanding of this thread's arguments than all the n00bs who ever came here, with better grammar. Please try to actually read the Bible before you try to use it in arguments. Also, your post reeks of ad hominem, which is very unwelcome here.

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Thank you for your ignorance, lack of reading, and insults.

[linaloki]

Titaniumceadda

Excuse me, your interpretation is all wrong. Try learning the Bible before using it.

Let's hope you've done the same.

Titaniumceadda

1. " Love thy neighbor as thyself" doesn't mean to want to get in their pants, and thinking a Christian MUST hate all homosexuals is a stereotype.

Love thy neighbor as thyself DOES mean, however, to not take away their rights. Unless you really like being unable to marry, adopt, donate blood, etcetera.

Titaniumceadda

2. Again, Christains do not judge these people, but merely reject their beleifs, as the Book of Exodus examples, where the people at the foot of the mountain are being homosexual and lesbianic. This enrages God's man, Moses, and he eventually ends up with all the homosexuals and lesbians killed for their abominational sin that had noforgiveness, from their lack of asking and then repenting from what they did.

ERRK. Wrong. Many Christians DO judge these people. Telling homosexuals they are going to hell is a judgement, is it not? And please provide Scriptural evidence of homosexual activities at the base of Mt. Sinai. Or didya forget the whole Golden Calf thing?

Titaniumceadda

3. God has mentioned many times the Bible over that homosexuality is an abomination unto Him, which further ruins this life style. I'd provide a verse for this, but you may want to actually READ the Bible before you try using it, thanks.

Funny thing... At the VERY least, I know that Ananel and myself have thouroughly abused the pages of the Holy Texts by reading and reading it again. And we BOTH have come up with extremely extensive (his being moreso than mine...) essays against the scriptures commonly used against homosexuality. Ananel's is quoted, and mine is here: Homosexuality Is NOT A Sin: Misconceptions Of Christianity.

Titaniumceadda

4. You DON'T have to get married. It is a choice where God unites you with who you belong with in a matromony of love, and it is a holy union. Two homosexuals being united in marriage is completely wrong, becuase they lack the ability to even reproduce, for one, and, as I mentioned, it IS an abomination to God. The proof is in the pudding, or this case, the Bible.

Marriage is NOT divinely given. Holy Matrimony, perhaps. Marriage is a legal ceremony, not a religious one. Why else can atheists or infertile people get married?

Titaniumceadda

Saying that the Bible is a mistranslation is a bit of blasphemy. If you don't know what that is, look up the story of David and Goliath, and WHY do you think homosexual queers are so rejected? Becuase their love is an unnatural one, dealing with lust and rebellion against nature itself. Have you seen a male horse go at it with another male horse? If you have, PLEASE send me evidence, becuase the horse is another part of nature, who follows it to further the species.

No one said the Bible IS a mistranslation. We said it has mistranslations in it. And homosexuals are rejected for the same reasons blacks were: They're different, and people need someone to hate on. And, fyi, there are episodes of homosexual sex within MANY animals. Some 400+ I believe.

Titaniumceadda

So, according to what you say, NO laws apply from the Old Testemant? Oh, yipee! Let's go kill everyone we know, rape them, worship rocks, and loot the corpses! NOT. That was an example of how much more out of control things would be without the 10 Commandments. You see, you merely base yourself off of your own ignorant veiw, by twisting the truth until it is unrecognizable.

The 10 Commandments are A) covered by Jesus's Law of Agape and B) mostly an engrained part of the human thought. (My personal belief, there, but not without a touch of history to help.)

We merely are saying that the Mosaic Laws, sans the 10 Commandments and any other laws given a thumbs up by Christ, are null.

Titaniumceadda

In closing, Homosexuality is an abomination to God, and if you think this unnatural love is better than how God made nature, then you probably need therapy. Thank you.

Why weren't lesbians ever mentioned in God's Laws? And why does nature commit this "abomination"? And why does the book of 1 John state that any true, full, and unconditional love can only come from God and be God approved?

[maybecca]

Titaniumceadda

Thank you for your ignorance, lack of reading, and insults.

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