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Garret@ I am with you for the fulfilling issue. I was saying if I did this or this, would I be right with God
Loki@ Romans 1... |
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Gemini Thought Garret@ I am with you for the fulfilling issue. I was saying if I did this or this, would I be right with God Loki@ Romans 1... Context. Romans 1:21-25, NIV 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. The sin is idolatry and worshiping other deities. Which, if I remember correctly, involved ritualized sex - hence the "degrading of their bodies with one another". |
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Error@ I was talking about the next 2 verses also...
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Gemini Thought Error@ I was talking about the next 2 verses also... Which were in response to the verses I posted. Which was the point of me saying "context". |
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I don't believe it's anyone's place to say someone can't do such a thing. Everyone has their own life, and the right to live it as they please. I understand if it's not for everyone, but that doesn't mean that judging people who aren't against it or are all for it will make anything better at all.
Everyone is in the general persuit of happiness, and everyone has the right to do so. No one should be told they cannot have that choice. Your religion and beliefs are just as right as the next persons. Because their different doesn't mean you need to be disrespectful, nor should you be disrespected. |
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But the Bible also says homosexuality is an abomination making all of those things null.
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Concernedguy23 But the Bible also says homosexuality is an abomination making all of those things null. Well, you go one believing that, but it only makes me believe you're a bit of a brain-washed fool, to be honest. Religion is supposed to bring fullfilment into peoples lives, and I would hope you get that from your religion, but simply because that's what your "God" believes does not mean that you have the right to judge people for him. If I remember correctly, the bible says not to judge others. If you really believe in an almighty "God" why not let him do his job instead of pretending you have the right to? |
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If you are a Christian, I'm sure you believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Let God do the judging, please. And considering that in the US there's a separition of church and state, you can't use the sanctity of marriage defence. The only problem that will arise from gay marriage is that under equal protection, polygamy might be legalized, which I find disturbing. Move to Amsterdam if you're not happy here. |
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Gemini Thought Garret@ I am with you for the fulfilling issue. I was saying if I did this or this, would I be right with God Loki@ Romans 1... Didn't we cover that whole context thing? The parts where it mentions rampant idolatry and God's actions in the matter? The parts where it sounds a lot like an orgy? The parts where only actions, not thoughts, are condemned? |
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Concernedguy23 But the Bible also says homosexuality is an abomination making all of those things null. SHELLFISH, MOTHER ********! DO YOU EAT IT?! scream |
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araikoe If you are a Christian, I'm sure you believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Why? I'm pretty sure some Christians decline to comment as to what happens - if anything - after death. |
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Lucky~9~Lives araikoe If you are a Christian, I'm sure you believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Why? I'm pretty sure some Christians decline to comment as to what happens - if anything - after death. Well, look at the title of the thread. "If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian." As I said, there is a separition of church and state. There's no legal reason why gay marriage should not be legalized. And there are Christians who are Bible thumpers and say gay men and women are abominations. They should leave the judging to God. And of course there are Christians who welcome gay people into their churches with no questions asked. They are good Christians. Jesus dined with prostitutes, beggars, thieves, and murderers. He did not judge them. Your friendly agnostic. xx 3nodding Edit: You asked why? Hmm. God theoretically gave us free will, so pre-determination is a load of BS. The Puritans believed it and judged their neighbors. So God would judge you when your life on here has ended to give you a "fair trial", so to speak. |
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araikoe Lucky~9~Lives araikoe If you are a Christian, I'm sure you believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Why? I'm pretty sure some Christians decline to comment as to what happens - if anything - after death. Well, look at the title of the thread. "If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian." As I said, there is a separition of church and state. There's no legal reason why gay marriage should not be legalized. And there are Christians are are Bible thumpers and say gay men and women are abominations. They should leave the judging to God. And of course there are Christians who welcome gay people into their churches with no questions asked. They are good Christians. Jesus dined with prostitutes, beggars, thieves, and murderers. He did not judge them. Your friendly agnostic. xx 3nodding Edit: You asked why? Hmm. God theoretically gave us free will, so pre-determination is a load of BS. The Puritans believed it and judged their neighbors. So God would judge you when your life on here has ended to give you a "fair trial", so to speak. Well yeah...but that doesn't mean all Christians believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Maybe I misinterpreted you, though, and you were only referring to the original poster. - 3nodding |
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Lucky~9~Lives araikoe Lucky~9~Lives araikoe If you are a Christian, I'm sure you believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Why? I'm pretty sure some Christians decline to comment as to what happens - if anything - after death. Well, look at the title of the thread. "If you are against gay marriage, you are a bad Christian." As I said, there is a separition of church and state. There's no legal reason why gay marriage should not be legalized. And there are Christians are are Bible thumpers and say gay men and women are abominations. They should leave the judging to God. And of course there are Christians who welcome gay people into their churches with no questions asked. They are good Christians. Jesus dined with prostitutes, beggars, thieves, and murderers. He did not judge them. Your friendly agnostic. xx 3nodding Edit: You asked why? Hmm. God theoretically gave us free will, so pre-determination is a load of BS. The Puritans believed it and judged their neighbors. So God would judge you when your life on here has ended to give you a "fair trial", so to speak. Well yeah...but that doesn't mean all Christians believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Maybe I misinterpreted you, though, and you were only referring to the original poster. - 3nodding I guess I was. I mainly just answer the title of a thread. And I find the debate interesting. No harm done. Cheers! xx |
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araikoe If you are a Christian, I'm sure you believe that God will judge humankind when they die. Let God do the judging, please. And considering that in the US there's a separition of church and state, you can't use the sanctity of marriage defence. The only problem that will arise from gay marriage is that under equal protection, polygamy might be legalized, which I find disturbing. Move to Amsterdam if you're not happy here. Hey, what's wrong with polygamy if it's consensual between all parties? |
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