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We stop 'being' 0.25 25.0% [ 12 ]
We go to our creator 0.16666666666667 16.7% [ 8 ]
We continue in a different form 0.14583333333333 14.6% [ 7 ]
We rot like the flesh puppets we are 0.1875 18.8% [ 9 ]
Other 0.25 25.0% [ 12 ]
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Mostly, I want to believe that when I die, and the neurons in my brain stop firing, that I will continue to exist. I want to believe in a God, or an Order, or even a Reason, and know that when I cease my function that I haven't been striving in vain... But... I'm logical, and I easily tear apart 'signs', even when I don't want to.

I used to believe that because I had everything I wanted, that there was obviously a God. Then, I realized that it is just as likely (statistically more likely) that my parent's financial stability is why I have: a horse, a cat, a dog, a car, a college education... I was diagnosed with chemical depression (let's save the depression debate for a different forum, kthanksbye) and I wondered how there could be a God who left me physically unable to be happy as I am. I don't blame this God for this, I just wonder about it.

I want to be able to thank someone when things go right, and talk to someone when things go wrong. I want to believe in the God I envision, a kind caring diety who doesn't give a s**t if you're straight, gay, bi, tri, pan, black, white, Hispanic, Asian. A God who places obstacles in our lives for us to overcome, and who will reward the majority of us with an eternity.

I don't want to cease to exist. The thought sends my heart off on a mission to beat fast enough to mimic a bird. I want faith in something. It's illogical to ask you to give me reason to have faith, but I'm thinking sometimes logic isn't the best... I don't know.

I'm not asking for a 'Christian' response, or a 'Buddhist' or 'Hindi' or 'Islam'. I just... was wondering why people who do believe DO believe, in whatever they believe. I'm looking for hope I guess.
DarkWyvernwings
Mostly, I want to believe that when I die, and the neurons in my brain stop firing, that I will continue to exist. I want to believe in a God, or an Order, or even a Reason, and know that when I cease my function that I haven't been striving in vain... But... I'm logical, and I easily tear apart 'signs', even when I don't want to.

I used to believe that because I had everything I wanted, that there was obviously a God. Then, I realized that it is just as likely (statistically more likely) that my parent's financial stability is why I have: a horse, a cat, a dog, a car, a college education... I was diagnosed with chemical depression (let's save the depression debate for a different forum, kthanksbye) and I wondered how there could be a God who left me physically unable to be happy as I am. I don't blame this God for this, I just wonder about it.

I want to be able to thank someone when things go right, and talk to someone when things go wrong. I want to believe in the God I envision, a kind caring diety who doesn't give a s**t if you're straight, gay, bi, tri, pan, black, white, Hispanic, Asian. A God who places obstacles in our lives for us to overcome, and who will reward the majority of us with an eternity.

I don't want to cease to exist. The thought sends my heart off on a mission to beat fast enough to mimic a bird. I want faith in something. It's illogical to ask you to give me reason to have faith, but I'm thinking sometimes logic isn't the best... I don't know.

I'm not asking for a 'Christian' response, or a 'Buddhist' or 'Hindi' or 'Islam'. I just... was wondering why people who do believe DO believe, in whatever they believe. I'm looking for hope I guess.
Too bad. The sooner you accept it, the sooner you can get over it.
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DarkWyvernwings
Mostly, I want to believe that when I die, and the neurons in my brain stop firing, that I will continue to exist. I want to believe in a God, or an Order, or even a Reason, and know that when I cease my function that I haven't been striving in vain... But... I'm logical, and I easily tear apart 'signs', even when I don't want to.

I used to believe that because I had everything I wanted, that there was obviously a God. Then, I realized that it is just as likely (statistically more likely) that my parent's financial stability is why I have: a horse, a cat, a dog, a car, a college education... I was diagnosed with chemical depression (let's save the depression debate for a different forum, kthanksbye) and I wondered how there could be a God who left me physically unable to be happy as I am. I don't blame this God for this, I just wonder about it.

I want to be able to thank someone when things go right, and talk to someone when things go wrong. I want to believe in the God I envision, a kind caring diety who doesn't give a s**t if you're straight, gay, bi, tri, pan, black, white, Hispanic, Asian. A God who places obstacles in our lives for us to overcome, and who will reward the majority of us with an eternity.

I don't want to cease to exist. The thought sends my heart off on a mission to beat fast enough to mimic a bird. I want faith in something. It's illogical to ask you to give me reason to have faith, but I'm thinking sometimes logic isn't the best... I don't know.

I'm not asking for a 'Christian' response, or a 'Buddhist' or 'Hindi' or 'Islam'. I just... was wondering why people who do believe DO believe, in whatever they believe. I'm looking for hope I guess.
Too bad. The sooner you accept it, the sooner you can get over it.


There is also the super fun solution of making up your own afterlife. razz
The Willow Of Darkness
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DarkWyvernwings
Mostly, I want to believe that when I die, and the neurons in my brain stop firing, that I will continue to exist. I want to believe in a God, or an Order, or even a Reason, and know that when I cease my function that I haven't been striving in vain... But... I'm logical, and I easily tear apart 'signs', even when I don't want to.

I used to believe that because I had everything I wanted, that there was obviously a God. Then, I realized that it is just as likely (statistically more likely) that my parent's financial stability is why I have: a horse, a cat, a dog, a car, a college education... I was diagnosed with chemical depression (let's save the depression debate for a different forum, kthanksbye) and I wondered how there could be a God who left me physically unable to be happy as I am. I don't blame this God for this, I just wonder about it.

I want to be able to thank someone when things go right, and talk to someone when things go wrong. I want to believe in the God I envision, a kind caring diety who doesn't give a s**t if you're straight, gay, bi, tri, pan, black, white, Hispanic, Asian. A God who places obstacles in our lives for us to overcome, and who will reward the majority of us with an eternity.

I don't want to cease to exist. The thought sends my heart off on a mission to beat fast enough to mimic a bird. I want faith in something. It's illogical to ask you to give me reason to have faith, but I'm thinking sometimes logic isn't the best... I don't know.

I'm not asking for a 'Christian' response, or a 'Buddhist' or 'Hindi' or 'Islam'. I just... was wondering why people who do believe DO believe, in whatever they believe. I'm looking for hope I guess.
Too bad. The sooner you accept it, the sooner you can get over it.


There is also the super fun solution of making up your own afterlife. razz
Yes, and hope the kids who were killed by their parents are frolicking in it.
Periphrastic Morphology
The Willow Of Darkness
Periphrastic Morphology
DarkWyvernwings
Mostly, I want to believe that when I die, and the neurons in my brain stop firing, that I will continue to exist. I want to believe in a God, or an Order, or even a Reason, and know that when I cease my function that I haven't been striving in vain... But... I'm logical, and I easily tear apart 'signs', even when I don't want to.

I used to believe that because I had everything I wanted, that there was obviously a God. Then, I realized that it is just as likely (statistically more likely) that my parent's financial stability is why I have: a horse, a cat, a dog, a car, a college education... I was diagnosed with chemical depression (let's save the depression debate for a different forum, kthanksbye) and I wondered how there could be a God who left me physically unable to be happy as I am. I don't blame this God for this, I just wonder about it.

I want to be able to thank someone when things go right, and talk to someone when things go wrong. I want to believe in the God I envision, a kind caring diety who doesn't give a s**t if you're straight, gay, bi, tri, pan, black, white, Hispanic, Asian. A God who places obstacles in our lives for us to overcome, and who will reward the majority of us with an eternity.

I don't want to cease to exist. The thought sends my heart off on a mission to beat fast enough to mimic a bird. I want faith in something. It's illogical to ask you to give me reason to have faith, but I'm thinking sometimes logic isn't the best... I don't know.

I'm not asking for a 'Christian' response, or a 'Buddhist' or 'Hindi' or 'Islam'. I just... was wondering why people who do believe DO believe, in whatever they believe. I'm looking for hope I guess.
Too bad. The sooner you accept it, the sooner you can get over it.


There is also the super fun solution of making up your own afterlife. razz
Yes, and hope the kids who were killed by their parents are frolicking in it.


Always could, but it does have an aura that is a bit perverse.
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Well there's the rather cynical (if logical) view point I was afraid of, anyone else?
DarkWyvernwings
Well there's the rather cynical (if logical) view point I was afraid of, anyone else?


Heh sorry, I don't think I can really be much help beyond stuffy, technical and all together insipid suggestions of logic. The problem is not really one that is on my mind because I'm currently content with the idea that my existence will end at some point. Makes it hard to suggest anything that is inspiring, heartfelt and genuine, at least quickly.

I'd probably have to spend a couple of days thinking and then writing to come up with something that worked well.
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I, quite strongly, believe that we continue on in some other form, be it reincarnation or some from of after-life or 'next'-life.

In the case of reincarnation, yes, for all intents and purposes who we are now would cease to exist. Our memories and experiences and personality would we gone and we would once again be a blank slate.

However, I don't, or perhaps can't, believe that their is nothing.
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DarkWyvernwings
Well there's the rather cynical (if logical) view point I was afraid of, anyone else?


Heh sorry, I don't think I can really be much help beyond stuffy, technical and all together insipid suggestions of logic. The problem is not really one that is on my mind because I'm currently content with the idea that my existence will end at some point. Makes it hard to suggest anything that is inspiring, heartfelt and genuine, at least quickly.

I'd probably have to spend a couple of days thinking and then writing to come up with something that worked well.


I was talking to one of my friends about this and he said he was comforted by the fact that all of the bad things in his life would be gone, and that his memory would live on with friends and family. I understand that in part, as being immortal is also scary, but the idea of ceasing to be petrifies me. When we end, we end without meaning so often, without giving and without impact.

I want to know more than anything else, I guess. I want to know what happens to the world, to my children and family. I want to know if we ever reach the edge of our universe, or even the edge of our solar system. I want to see this fascinating race of creatures evolve... One life time isn't enough to see everything...

If they all blow themselves up, I'd be content to let my spirit wander, see what else there is to see in the universe before fading. That's what I want anyway, but no one seems to give me comfort that it could happen.
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Dardanus

I, quite strongly, believe that we continue on in some other form, be it reincarnation or some from of after-life or 'next'-life.

In the case of reincarnation, yes, for all intents and purposes who we are now would cease to exist. Our memories and experiences and personality would we gone and we would once again be a blank slate.

However, I don't, or perhaps can't, believe that their is nothing.


That part of reincarnation has always confused me. If who we are ceases, and our core elements go off to play cosmic Yahtzee with other core elements, then, is it really a continuation of ourself at all? Or just recycling?
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DarkWyvernwings
Dardanus

I, quite strongly, believe that we continue on in some other form, be it reincarnation or some from of after-life or 'next'-life.

In the case of reincarnation, yes, for all intents and purposes who we are now would cease to exist. Our memories and experiences and personality would we gone and we would once again be a blank slate.

However, I don't, or perhaps can't, believe that their is nothing.


That part of reincarnation has always confused me. If who we are ceases, and our core elements go off to play cosmic Yahtzee with other core elements, then, is it really a continuation of ourself at all? Or just recycling?



Technically recycling, but that aint so bad.
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Religion and stuff to believe in...

i DO believe that everything can go JUST as bad as we always think or believe it might <3~!
it's these little "but"s that would couscider life worth living.
s**t might happen; it usually does, i'm unfit for any kind of work within a 3-mile radius of where i live, if not more :3!

therer's all of these little things that makes life worth living, but my most important memento to "leave" after me when i am dead; is to make sure people remember me. so if there's no life-after this one, then at least other lives will continue to know about me, and my life, for a long time after i'm gone anyway; i'll leave an impression :3!
/that is currently my lifelong dream _XD -to go down into the history books O^o!

the life after this one, or the continued existence and so on;
as long as i don't need to think about it or bother with it in my current life, it could go however any religion or sciense wants <3~!

i have an open mind, so instead of dedicating myself to something as a religion, i just go with; i believe in everything until it's been proven otherwise :3!
/and people might just use the wrong methods to achieve the wished-for result, so science won't help me there either :3!

personally i would favor to create my own universe, and live as a "god" until i'm bored of it and just reincarnate into one of my own-created worlds.
-if i'm not as fortunate as that? well... then reincarnation is an option, as long as i'm reborn as something that'll be content with it's life, then i'm okay with that~
if i'm "doomed" to wander the world for all eternity, together with everyone else that's died; at least i can watch new movies and see society develope. i'd prolly be pretty bored with being unable to do anything though, so i'd rather avoid that one.

heaven, hell... i don't really "believe" in those; just look at what's conscidered Sinning (or however it's spelled) -now,.... look at humanity, look at those seven specifications.... and then we should know that heaven is basically empty while hell is overcrowded. -it isn't really logical, since even if you DO do good deeds and all of that, if you're an obese person- then you're supposed to be dumped into the burns anyway
so on, so forth.

quite frankly; i can talk about the life after this one, or the death after this life, or the end of this current existence which might just as well be a thought in someone's head, for hours and hours 'till no end...
but i don't see a meaning with talking about "what happens at the end" when there's still such a long time there. and no matter what everyone says; no one knows for sure what will happen there.

if people are going to "believe" in something, then they should believe in being a good person. -not a saint or those dilly-dallying people who thinks everything's all sweet and pleasant, but just a good person: not kill people unles they try to kill you, not hit kids unless they've done something exceptionally horriffic, treat your pets well and so on, so forth.
-i mean, i'm ignoring my cat most of the time she wants something, i even broke her leg by accident on one occation -but i don't conscider myself a bad person because of that. i don't ever mean to hurt people physically, and if i hurt people mentally i feel bad about it and try to make up for it some other time when i've calmed down so on, so forth.

as far as religion and things go though, i think i've heard a good thing or two about shintoism. not that i know anything much about it, but every item might have a soul; now THAT is interesting _XD!

-this might not have helped you... at all <3~
personally i'm not a "believer" of gods and that we have all of these moralic laws that either grant us better or worse luck in the end.
the few times i've needed someone to talk to, it's been myself /or since i'm such a free spirit, i go and write my angst out in forums ninja

i don't see why you can't continue to pray, talk to someone, as for help and guidance and whatever though. -it might not be to the god-specific all of the christians and catholics and those might have, it might not be a god that is even acknowleged by any religion of belief at all.
gods usually exists only because we believe in them, and even if they DO exist; they usually never do much to help us or make things harder for us.
-i don't see why you can't make up your own deity, or perhaps you might think you make one up- give it a name and an appearance, powers or whatever, while in fact it might already exist, and hundreds of thousands other people already believe in it. just not acknowleging it like the religions and beliefs of the world.

-what makes a god, a god- if not it's believers?


/congratulations, i might have been rambling, and could go on about it- but i hope this might have helped you any at all _xD?
I, too, fall into such a temptation. A temptation and a wish for something outside of myself, something eternal, something Holy, something Good and infinite. However, I realize that if I try to grasp onto something for mere sake of grasping onto it, then I would not be authentic in my regard to the thing. I would merely be using the ideology as a means to an end rather than an end in itself.

So I'm left with no afterlife. No heaven. No other afterlife which promises the eternal. My consciousness shall end one day and I have no clue what that means for me.
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I, too, fall into such a temptation. A temptation and a wish for something outside of myself, something eternal, something Holy, something Good and infinite. However, I realize that if I try to grasp onto something for mere sake of grasping onto it, then I would not be authentic in my regard to the thing. I would merely be using the ideology as a means to an end rather than an end in itself.

So I'm left with no afterlife. No heaven. No other afterlife which promises the eternal. My consciousness shall end one day and I have no clue what that means for me.


I've read that the experience is almost identical to falling asleep. You simply don't wake up, it should comfort you to know that you experience death every night.
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I believe in gods. I believe in souls. I do not believe in an afterlife, except for a select few people, and I do not believe in reincarnation, though it makes more sense to me than an afterlife. My gods are not entirely benevolent, nor are they entirely malevolent. I do not believe that we can truly know anything about them at this point, though I do not believe they would place entirely unfair rules upon us. Perhaps "fit these requirements to reach an afterlife".

I have some gay, trans, etc. friends who are Christian. It does not negatively affect them.

I am also clinically depressed, but I would have no problem with life ending at death.

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