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I've been back and forth between atheist, agnostic, christian, and buddhist but there is one that has always stuck with me as being true but I don't know what it's called or if it's even a religion.

I don't believe in any Gods' to get that out of the way first. The basis of what I believe is somewhat like Karma but not the same thing.

The balance within everything, light and darkness, nature, life and death, good and 'evil'.

So one cannot live without the other; coexistance.

If there are people who feel like they have near perfect lives and they have alot of money, are very happy, live very stable. Then there are just as many people out there that take on their povery, depression, and suffering.

But all of this balance is not by choice or by deeds like karma is, it's just a universal balance to where if the balance is lost and one thing side is to dark then the world will die. If there is to much light then there will be just as much darkness in the world to balance things out.

Is there a name for this belief?
What do you think about people who may share this belief?
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You don't need a label.


I agree but it becomes somewhat frustrating if someone asks me what I believe and they don't have a lable for it. (survey's and crap)
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You don't need a label.


I agree but it becomes somewhat frustrating if someone asks me what I believe and they don't have a lable for it. (survey's and crap)


If there's an other option, you can always go for that.
Spiritual atheist? That might be a label for you. If you aren't actually religious then you could call yourself an irreligious spiritual atheist, but that sounds way too ******** wordy.
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I do not think your view is a religion. I think that you might be best described as a spiritual atheist and you would emphasize that most of your beliefs have a philosophical basis. Such a name is rather unspecific and just represents a broad category. I would say that to some extent it makes sense for someone to think what you do, though I naturally question it as i do a host of other philosophical and religious views.
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JariKyoko
I've been back and forth between atheist, agnostic, christian, and buddhist but there is one that has always stuck with me as being true but I don't know what it's called or if it's even a religion.

I don't believe in any Gods' to get that out of the way first. The basis of what I believe is somewhat like Karma but not the same thing.

The balance within everything, light and darkness, nature, life and death, good and 'evil'.

So one cannot live without the other; coexistance.

If there are people who feel like they have near perfect lives and they have alot of money, are very happy, live very stable. Then there are just as many people out there that take on their povery, depression, and suffering.

But all of this balance is not by choice or by deeds like karma is, it's just a universal balance to where if the balance is lost and one thing side is to dark then the world will die. If there is to much light then there will be just as much darkness in the world to balance things out.

Is there a name for this belief?
What do you think about people who may share this belief?



When in doubt, make something up.
JariKyoko
Amor Sempiternus
You don't need a label.


I agree but it becomes somewhat frustrating if someone asks me what I believe and they don't have a lable for it. (survey's and crap)


I always check Agnostic, hubby ticks Atheist. We are neither, but it's easier than explaining. Most people don't care beyond 'not Christian' we've found.
I suppose one might call the doctrine; the doctrine of coincidentia oppositorum (coincidence of opposites) from medieval Christianity and Jewish Kabbal (as in the coincidentia oppositorum of Nicholas of Cusa).

In your studies of eastern philosophies like Buddism, this philosophy can also be found in the Pair of Opposites of Buddhism (Humphreys, 1955). You may also be familiar with Taoism, and the yin-yang of classical Chinese philosophy elaborated in the commentaries of I-Ching. The yin and the yang are complementary principles or forces, explaining all processes of development and decay. Yin is the negative, passive, weak, or destructive element existing in all things, and yang the coexisting positive, active, strong, and constructive element. All change manifests an interaction between these forces; harmony is their equilibrium, conflict their opposition.

In my native religion pf Mormonism, the prophet Lehi teaches that the philosophy of opposites is at the heart of the plan of God, the fall of man was a part of the plan, otherwise man would have experienced "no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin" (2 Ne. 2:23). Hence, Lehi concludes, "it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things…[otherwise] righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad" (2 Ne. 2:11). These things are coexistant actualities that must be, otherwise neither has existence.

As a scientific principle, the theory of relativity is also based on the idea that some things do not exist without opposition. Velocity for example - a single object in a void with nothing to compare it to has no velocity. With nothing to compare it to, you cannot tell if it is moving or not. For such an object velocity is not zero – it is not undefined - Velocity literally does not exist except through opposition. Velocity is a relative concept that exists only in the presence of opposition. Good is also a relative term. Is cyanide good? Well, relative to what? for what? It’s a good thing if you are trying to refine gold ore, it’s bad if you need food. Velocity, force, good, evil, happiness, misery… does not exist without the other…
Pantheist perhaps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
Irreligion,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion
ignosticism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

Check these out. I hope these help.

Personally, I am agnostic and a bit absurd. However I do like to bounce around hypothetical notions quite often.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism
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I suppose one might call the doctrine; the doctrine of coincidentia oppositorum (coincidence of opposites) from medieval Christianity and Jewish Kabbal (as in the coincidentia oppositorum of Nicholas of Cusa).

In your studies of eastern philosophies like Buddism, this philosophy can also be found in the Pair of Opposites of Buddhism (Humphreys, 1955). You may also be familiar with Taoism, and the yin-yang of classical Chinese philosophy elaborated in the commentaries of I-Ching. The yin and the yang are complementary principles or forces, explaining all processes of development and decay. Yin is the negative, passive, weak, or destructive element existing in all things, and yang the coexisting positive, active, strong, and constructive element. All change manifests an interaction between these forces; harmony is their equilibrium, conflict their opposition.

In my native religion pf Mormonism, the prophet Lehi teaches that the philosophy of opposites is at the heart of the plan of God, the fall of man was a part of the plan, otherwise man would have experienced "no joy, for they knew no misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin" (2 Ne. 2:23). Hence, Lehi concludes, "it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things…[otherwise] righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad" (2 Ne. 2:11). These things are coexistant actualities that must be, otherwise neither has existence.

As a scientific principle, the theory of relativity is also based on the idea that some things do not exist without opposition. Velocity for example - a single object in a void with nothing to compare it to has no velocity. With nothing to compare it to, you cannot tell if it is moving or not. For such an object velocity is not zero – it is not undefined - Velocity literally does not exist except through opposition. Velocity is a relative concept that exists only in the presence of opposition. Good is also a relative term. Is cyanide good? Well, relative to what? for what? It’s a good thing if you are trying to refine gold ore, it’s bad if you need food. Velocity, force, good, evil, happiness, misery… does not exist without the other…


Thank you for the very long descriptions, I can definitely say I'm not mormon but your second paragraph is acctually where I got my beliefs from. Anything about the balance of Yin and Yang type thing, everything I believe seems to have come from Japan. (the Japanese make so much more sense)
Buddhism is another one that I used to live by and still in a sense do so you pretty much hit the nail on the head in paragraph two.
Thank you.
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JariKyoko
Thank you for the very long descriptions, I can definitely say I'm not mormon but your second paragraph is acctually where I got my beliefs from. Anything about the balance of Yin and Yang type thing, everything I believe seems to have come from Japan. (the Japanese make so much more sense)
Buddhism is another one that I used to live by and still in a sense do so you pretty much hit the nail on the head in paragraph two.
Thank you.
Yin Yang (and Wuji) is a CHINESE concept, not a Japanese one. Also, Buddhism originates from India.
Seems rather close to kind-of Taoism. I'm in a similar position of being label-free. If you really want a set label, I'd say go with Taoism, although that's only if you absolutely must list a religion and you don't want to put atheist or agnostic or 'other' or anything. If you want my advice? Stop worrying about whether or not you can label your model of the universe. What's important is the model's quality, not its title. Of course, I also completely understand the desire to have a label, I've had personal issues with labels before. Try to remember that labels are provisional.
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I think balance is the key word there. You could simply describe it as a "philosophy of universal balance". It's like homeostasis on a cosmic scale.

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