deadmanjay
So you admit you lied and you still haven't said why you are trying to justify yourself with the OT.
No lie about what is said in the bible. Gays were put to death back than it was stoning. I agree that they SHOULD be. There isn't a lie there.
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Das_boogus
Not lying..did you go read it? If so...prove that you have...I did.
deadmanjay
Already have, dozens of times. Just because you think it means ebil gays doesn't make it so.
Than what does it make them than? It is stated that they are of the wicked. So if you have read it...quote that you have.
Das_boogus
Cause I actually gave the verse of where it was located
stare or did you miss that?
deadmanjay
After you took it out of context. Liar.
It would only be considered as "taken out of context" if I misquote or doesn't suit the topic at hand. So I am not a liar. Plus you still haven't quoted anything outside of responding to my quotes.
Das boogus
Go open the bible up than and give me evidence instead of avoiding the "hard task" of biblical work and study.
deadmanjay
Just because you can't read or you forget what you said because your main account is busy doing other things doesn't make your lie go away.
Still avoiding instead of giving me evidence of what you said that would defeat my biblical quotes. So I am not lying, nor a liar.
Das boogus
That' s not why I dislike Gays. Besides a gay person wouldn't go after me, a lesbian would. Either case I find what they do especially in their parades revolting.
deadmanjay
Lesbians are gay.
rolleyes NO!!! :roll" you don't say... I do know that, thanks for telling me what I already knew about. So how about you give me something that I don't...like them bible quotes that I've asked for. I know lesbians are included under gay terms or HOMOSEXUALS. I was being literal..a gay man wouldn't go for a woman, another woman would go for me
Das boogus
am a woman and black...and there wasn't assumptions...Hell they even shout it out "Accept me as I am"
deadmanjay
More moral than gay people about wanting equal rights...remember that? If you were loving then you wouldn't hate them. You don't have to ******** someone to love them. Since you keep bringing up platonic love, how about you prove that hating gay people is anywhere close to loving, platonic or otherwise.
you do know it is POSSIBLE to love a gender preference as a person...but not their habit right? And yes you don't have to F**k someone to love them. That would be called a prostitute or a giggalo right? To prove that hating gays is anywhere close to loving platonic or otherwise...simple: it's treating them as if they were nothing wrong with them but keeping the knowledge that they just may go after you if you are aware they are gay/ lesbian.
deadmanjay
Shifting the Burden is a fallacy.
Yes it is...isn't it? So is not proving a fallacy. Still waiting....
Das_boogus
It was a explanation upon what Platonic Love is. And in a way you sorta did say that I hated everyone. "Funny how you just hate on people..." is what you said..one word makes all the difference. Let's try the word "SOME" yeah...that would fit nicely.
deadmanjay
People does not mean everyone in context but since you have proven you have no clue as to what context is, you are at fault. But hey, way to go for admitting your hatred. You are neither moral nor humble by your own words.
Than you may want to SPECIFY..cause that can be taken as EVERYONE or a selected group. And seeing as you keep saying I am taking a written statement or passage...fine whatever. My "out of context" suits the topic at hand. I am moral and humble...you say I don't cause I refuse to accept Gays and that they shouldn't have equal rights...No respect for my choice do you?
Das boogus
And why the heck would I have a crush on you? you already turned me off with your morals.
deadmanjay
Yes, because accepting of people is so immoral. You are the one who mentioned a crush, so maybe you should work on your issues before trying to assume of mine.
You miss used my example and blew it out of proportion. And it isn't IMMORAL if you don't accept people who don't have the same as you. Can still be friends with them...but not argument about it.
Das_boogus
Christian shows like Joyce Meyers, Dr. Dobson, Dr. Charles Stanley...have bigotry in them anothers upon the christian programs.
deadmanjay
If they are such bigots, why should any Christian who actually follows the teachings of Jesus want to watch them?
You should know this one...since you read the bible so much. I know the answer to it already...I am hoping for once that you can provide something for me.
Das_boogus
I didn't say I don't hate anyone...I said I don't hate everyone, difference...so don't twist me words on me. And I didn't say anything about assless chaps or dancing. I know I said I disagreed with their "life style"
deadmanjay
Your actions and words prove your bigotry and you admit to being bigoted towards gay people. You don't have to twist words to know that.
You did twist my words though by changing one of them. Also you categorized gays as individuals that dress with glitter, dance to over the rainbow and raining men with assless chaps...where I did not. Also you are being a bigot by utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion that I have. I can accuse you as a "straight hater" but don't. I have enough respect what your decision even if I don't agree.
Das boogus
Ah hate...well...I do dislike gays. And God does as well, why don't you go tell him your thoughts on the matter.
deadmanjay
Yes, because we all know that you are so special that you know what God thinks. You are just so humble and pious.
I know what God says...So yes I am pious (devoted to my religion) But it also has another meaning which is what we are both showing "having or showing appropriate respect or regard for parents or others"
Das_boogus
At least many are there to agree with what I am saying.
deadmanjay
Still an appeal to popularity which shows you don't even understand what is being said about that.
Choose what you will...
Das boogus
No...but I am just saying they would.
deadmanjay
Who is they? The people who are bigoted like you?
And you as well...But those who actually WISH to follow God and what he says.
Das_boogus
For gays...with gays..I forgot the "s". Its still funny you are head strong about gays having equal rights
deadmanjay
Yeah, it's funny about thinking people should be treated fairly instead of like third class citizens. Damn women and blacks for wanting the same thing. Damn disabled people for wanting to be treated with some dignity.
That is different from what gays want. They degrade the human superiority to be. Besides what blacks, woman, disabled people wanted is more understandable as well as more logical...sensible.
Das boogus
I didn't lie...nor did I say anything about everyone else moral is greater than Gays. I said they don't have their Morals straight
deadmanjay
Lying again. Either your memory sucks or you have too many accounts doing too many different things. Or you are just a liar. Pick one.
Not lying...I know what I said...you can go ahead and quote me...I know what I did say....same with what I know my own MEANING is. Man I do adore your twisted mind and how you scramble around like a roach dodging the light
rolleyes ( Light meaning God)
Das boogus
I still don't see your side of what God said upon gays...you continuously ignore that part. Is it because you got nothing? I can't wait to see if this part will be blocked out or not
deadmanjay
Shifting the Burden. Also, not reading what had been quoted previously.
I see no evidence of biblical scripture from your end. So how about you stop avoiding you've done a lot of that. So quit stalling
Das boogus
Oh but I do...you are showing whoever reads this that you don't know what your morals are and not giving me anything to show that you really do.
deadmanjay
You have shown your morals to be full of hatred, so whether someone thinks I don't know what my morals are is more of your vast assumptions. Try again.
Not all my morals are of Hatred...but I am capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct. Gays are not welcomed in the eyes of God. Same with those who follow him truthfully.
Das boogus
On top of that...if you were guided with the bible that shows you a higher thinking...you would be seeing it too.
deadmanjay
If you want people to see that the bible lets you condemn others then you should become a surgeon.
rolleyes God condemns. The bible makes you aware of your surroundings outside of yourself. Or did you not know that oh "I've read it many times"
Das boogus
Than prove me a liar and start quoting me God's words upon it Hm?
deadmanjay
You dismissed the source without reading it. Because it didn't take bible verses out of context like you do. That is your failing and I have already proven you to be a liar a number of times.
I'm not lying sweetie...what reason would I have to lie upon what God has said? So I am guessing
1) Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman . It is an abomination. NKJV
2) Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman , both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them NKJV
3) 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals , nor sodomites, NKJV
Is ME lying? Hmm Fine...it's out of context but used properly...I think I can live with that, also knowing it's the truth.
Das boogus
I'm not a liar either...I don't get joy in telling a lie like I do with telling the truth. Pretty much why lie when the truth is much more better. So you going to start quoting or what?
deadmanjay
I have been quoting you. You just keep lying.
stare I'm not lying...so instead of just keep on quoting me...start defending and prove me wrong that God is okay is Gays. or are you going to AVOID again?
Das boogus
Why should I stop? Cause you think I have failed when it is you who failed to point out God's passages? I have proved my "bigotry" to not be a failure. You keep avoiding.
deadmanjay
You keep shifting the Burden when you haven't proven s**t beyond your own bigotry and your own assumptions and your own decontextualization of the bible. Is there somwhere in the Bible that let's you condemn others as you have done so? No, then your bigotry is a failure.
I keep asking you to prove me that you read the correct passage in the bible, that isn't shifting the burden...that is asking. I have proved what God has said about Gays...to which I agree too. I can't force spiritually lost people to change their habits that they wish to do cause I imply they should. That's under their own condemnation. I don't have to agree with gay habits and believe they should be gone of this world.
Das boogus
Hmm...than maybe you should make yourself more devoted to it so you can gain a better grasp of higher knowledge. And heck may even give you a better chance at a spiritual argument and not feel so...worn out
deadmanjay
You mean take it out of context and bend it over a fence like you.
No what I mean is you can't handle spiritual debate.
Das boogus
I want them away from me...that is MY judgement. Nothing odd about that
deadmanjay
You judged them far worse than that by your own words in this very thread. Try again, liar.
I haven't even HIT that kind of "worse" judgement as you claim. And it isn't "lying" if it is my own judgement that I want them away from me. especially with you using this quote. So it's not lying, dumbass.
stare
Das boogus
Morally wrong. The fact they are kissing the same gender as they are is "icky"
deadmanjay
So, don't watch gay people kiss. Simple as that since you find it icky and hate them.
I don't watch them if they kiss...and it's more of the action of them going after the same gender as themselves that I hate.
Das boogus
Than don't bother talking to me anymore. Simple as that
stare deadmanjay
You keep quoting me and you called me dear or something. That is your failing as you missed everything in that set.
AAAAND sweetie...but if you simple don't like anything I have said...don't quote anymore.
Das boogus
It's not literal cannibalism, it's a figure of speech. Another word I know you wouldn't be able to handle intense bible studies that adults have.
deadmanjay
More vast assumptions. Going to start backing any of your assumptions up or are you just going to keep making them?
This whole conversation is proof to my "assumption". You haven't shown anything as my requests...you avoid them. I am asking you to PROVE to me that God is okay with Gays. That he accepts them, LOVES everyone. You haven't...at all. So I am backing it up...you aren't backing yourself.
Das boogus
You'd walk out cause we would be too "biased" for you to handle.
deadmanjay
So you are admitting to being a bigot again. You don't have to keep admitting it, we already know.
Fine whatever I am stubborn to my religious views and don't tolerate very well with those who lie to me about the bible, twist words in the bible to their own liking. That's fine, but also everyone KNOWS you haven't given much of a fight with biblical scripture that goes against mine. You just call me names, say you have read the verses, and so on...but nothing that goes against what I have provided. So yeah I would know you would walk out...you have been demonstrating that this entire time.
Das_boogus
Indeed I do know what Bigot means ..."a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion." So yeah...you would be one too. So how would that be different from what we are talking about?
deadmanjay
So, whose belief am I actually intolerant of?
It does mean opinion too...and it's mine you are intolerant of cause I don't agree with your opinion about Gays.
Das_boogus
I know what I said about that...and you can go right on ahead. your statement of what you say on Hippies shows that I am correct and can outright call you a bigot too.
deadmanjay
You have already admitted at least once that you don't read back to find out what you have actually said, so another lie. As for the hippie thing, uh, good for you? Make you feel better?
I did admit that I
don't always look back...but alot of this I have. I am also seeing that you miss quoted me. You missed a word. It's not "I don't read back to fine out" its was "I don't always look back" In any event...yeah good for me. but still how is it any different how you feel about hippies like I feel about gays? contradicting yourself are you?
Das boogus
That isn't cursing you...it's warning you not to mess around with God. I don't do that "cursing" stuff on people I don't believe in it.
deadmanjay
So, you know for a fact that God is going to get me real soon. Way to abuse the bible some more.
I can see how you can MISUNDERSTAND ( no surprise there) when I said "Don't mess around with God" that doesn't mean "he's gonna get you" as to kill you. Whether you know it or not or accept it...God will come along side of you and show you the error of your ways and the consequences. It would be up to you to change your path or not.
Das boogus
nah...that might get you excited and I don't roll that way. Whips get me edgy.
deadmanjay
This was actually your best comeback.
No it's not my best "comeback". It was suitable to your lack of intelligence, so I gave you what you expected to hear.
Das boogus
I am never wrong about people...make sure you put the WHOLE statement down first. and anywhere else I have said I know where I am wrong and when I am right. If you are going to quote me...do it right without twisting words
deadmanjay
So you looked it up to see where you said you were never wrong. Saying you are never wrong about people is an indication of pride and more assumptions. And you talk about me being humble.
rolleyes It's not a matter of pride to get to know someone now is it? The bible does teach those who take the time to read and understand it of how to recognize certain patterns, not only in yourself but of others as well. To look ahead before a problem occurs...how to manage your money. How to...oh wait what am I saying, you told me that you read it already...many times too, right? or are you a liar?
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Das boogus
I am humble...but I am also lethal when it comes to scripture.
deadmanjay
Lethal at using it to promote your bigotry and condemnation of others, yes.
Yup...cause I know where I stand. But you still have nothing to prove on your end all that much from what I see. Just more quoting from me, nothing serious there.
Das boogus
Anyways...From the real looks of this, I have clearly won.
deadmanjay
No you didn't. You took something out of context, said it said one thing, then when you put it into context, you didn't even read the context. You just let your hatred of gay people focus on what you took out of context.
Yes I did win...I put the CORRECT biblical verses to prove that A) God said " a man sleeping with another man like he would like a woman is an "abomination" using Leviticus 18:22 AND Leviticus 20:13. and B) I agreed with God saying about stoning the unrighteous. "both shall be put to death for their sins" Anyways Homosexuality disappear with the man and/or woman who practices it. They are the ones to face their consequence.
deadmanjay
Oh wait, you mentioned two other verses, which you still haven't said why you were trying to use the OT.
rolleyes Simple..solid structure. God set the structure up for those to follow, simple rules and what not...where as NT demonstrates that it CAN be done. But why ask me? I thought you knew that already.
Das boogus
and I know you will state otherwise, same with anyone else who may read this. Bottom line...if you don't got biblical scripture or anything like that to states "God didn't say that" don't bother posting back to this.
deadmanjay
You still haven't proven your bigotry is justified. Taking one or two verses from the OT and taking verses out of context doesn't prove your point. Only someone blind to the word of God would think so highly of themselves as you do to think your condemnation and bigotry is the moral high ground.
God's condemnation and morals are high grounds...I don't even touch the surface of his. I am not blind to the word of God...I see quite clearly what he states in the scriptures. God has given me more understanding of how my life isn't really under my control, that I am under his mercy. That no stupid stature of Mary is going to save my a** once I am dead. I agree that God saying "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." NO homosexual can argue with that verse. They can try all they want to justify and state "what about human rights" or "what about equal rights" God's word is LAW. Without God's law, it is impossible to make the right choices. Not just for yourself...but for others around you. Gays no don't and will never belong. Now I am done talking to ignorance for tonight, Why don't' to ponder, soul search or whatever biblical thing you can do to repent. I'm fine with my "bigotry" and being "pious". I can live with that...but I can't live with being guilty and knowing I would be condemn to hell if I were gay. (which I'm not
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deadmanjay
Oh, and by the way, since you assumed that anyone who reads this would agree with me, by your own logic, that means I won by numbers. Shame I don't go for fallacy filled arguments like you do.
Again...you love to miss understand me...that's okay. ignorance is bliss... I know you haven't won anything anyhow. No leg to stand on..that is fine. I know and study the bible, I don't put any delusional filled arguments especially when I provide evidence of God's word. That's okay. As you said "GOD WILL GET ME" I guess that means you have nothing to fear than right?
