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Lokiogma
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It's not a legally recognized union.


It's also not an illegal union


Granted. However, it is banned.
Lokiogma



What part?


Back it up or retract it


Again, I ask, what part of marriage is natural? What part of it definition precludes same-sex marriage?


Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.

Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner.

I have to go now.
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Kemeul
Lokiogma



What part?


Back it up or retract it


Again, I ask, what part of marriage is natural? What part of it definition precludes same-sex marriage?


Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.

Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner.

I have to go now. I'll be back as soon as I have more time.


The Catholic Church also tells people that Condoms don't help AIDS. Clearly they are not a reliable source of sexual advice. Just sayin.
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[Ren The Ryoko]
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Lokiogma



What part?


Back it up or retract it


Again, I ask, what part of marriage is natural? What part of it definition precludes same-sex marriage?


Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.

Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner.

I have to go now. I'll be back as soon as I have more time.


The Catholic Church also tells people that Condoms don't help AIDS. Clearly they are not a reliable source of sexual advice. Just sayinpoisoning the well.


That doesn't really impact whether they're right about moral and spiritual issues concerning sex.
Kemeul


Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.


As someone who completely rejects any authority the Catholic Church has on any subject, why should I give a hoot?
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Lokiogma



What part?


Back it up or retract it


Again, I ask, what part of marriage is natural? What part of it definition precludes same-sex marriage?


Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law.

Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner.

I have to go now. I'll be back as soon as I have more time.


The Catholic Church also tells people that Condoms don't help AIDS. Clearly they are not a reliable source of sexual advice. Just sayinpoisoning the well.


That doesn't really impact whether they're right about moral and spiritual issues concerning sex.


I guess. It just makes them look incredibly evil and negligent about the physical health of the people who believe them.
oHoN
Marriage is about creating a stable family unit in which children can be properly raised and gay marriage does not do that.
Well my sister is a christian and she married her husband who she loves and they will never have children. So what, they shouldn't have gotten married? You're an idiot.

You guys need to come up with better excuses to not allow homosexual marriages because these are just pathetic.

Marriage hardly means anything these days. 50% of married women have affairs, 60% of married men have affairs. People get divorces all the time. There's also those vegas weddings that last for what...a few months, if even that. I DO NOT THINK allowing homosexual marriages will have an affect on the "purity" of marriage; it's bad enough these days as it is.

I will never understand those that are against gay marriage. And I'm christian.
[Ren The Ryoko]
I guess. It just makes them look incredibly evil and negligent about the physical health of the people who believe
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I guess. It just makes them look incredibly evil and negligent about the physical health of the people who believe them.


What does it matter if they are using condoms to stop AIDS while their souls are dying? These are mortal sins.

Gal 5:19-21
19. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness,20. idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions,
21. envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

If everyone followed Church teaching, AIDS would not be spread. Church's position on premarital sex and contraception often clashes with modern values. The culture and society are definitely working against chastity and the sacrament of marriage. So who is eviI? I don't like this word; Who is a sick sinner? I will say people that kill their bodies because they choose to live promiscuous lives. And people that kill their souls committing, justifying and promoting sins of impurity.

Condoms are not working:
Bastets Blessing
oHoN
Marriage is about creating a stable family unit in which children can be properly raised and gay marriage does not do that.
Well my sister is a christian and she married her husband who she loves and they will never have children. So what, they shouldn't have gotten married? You're an idiot.

You guys need to come up with better excuses to not allow homosexual marriages because these are just pathetic.

Marriage hardly means anything these days. 50% of married women have affairs, 60% of married men have affairs. People get divorces all the time. There's also those vegas weddings that last for what...a few months, if even that. I DO NOT THINK allowing homosexual marriages will have an affect on the "purity" of marriage; it's bad enough these days as it is.

I will never understand those that are against gay marriage. And I'm christian.


END TIME SIGNS
1. False Prophets. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3)

2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.

Chapter 25 - Why Christ Tolerates the Wicked From The Revelations of Saint Birgitta
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I guess. It just makes them look incredibly evil and negligent about the physical health of the people who believe them.


What does it matter if they are using condoms to stop AIDS while their souls are dying? These are mortal sins.

Gal 5:19-21
19. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness,20. idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions,
21. envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these. I am warning you, as I warned you before: those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

If everyone followed Church teaching, AIDS would not be spread. Church's position on premarital sex and contraception often clashes with modern values. The culture and society are definitely working against chastity and the sacrament of marriage. So who is eviI? I don't like this word; Who is a sick sinner? I will say people that kill their bodies because they choose to live promiscuous lives. And people that kill their souls committing, justifying and promoting sins of impurity.

Condoms are not working:


Thats disgusting. And it proves that you have no empathy for human suffering. You would rather have people suffer and die in this only life they have for the hope of an after life they may not get, rather than actually help them here and now.
Kemeul
Bastets Blessing
oHoN
Marriage is about creating a stable family unit in which children can be properly raised and gay marriage does not do that.
Well my sister is a christian and she married her husband who she loves and they will never have children. So what, they shouldn't have gotten married? You're an idiot.

You guys need to come up with better excuses to not allow homosexual marriages because these are just pathetic.

Marriage hardly means anything these days. 50% of married women have affairs, 60% of married men have affairs. People get divorces all the time. There's also those vegas weddings that last for what...a few months, if even that. I DO NOT THINK allowing homosexual marriages will have an affect on the "purity" of marriage; it's bad enough these days as it is.

I will never understand those that are against gay marriage. And I'm christian.


END TIME SIGNS
1. False Prophets. They would be smooth talkers, have many followers, and slur the Christian faith (2 Peter 2:1-3)

2. Homosexuality would be increasingly evident at the end of the age (2 Timothy 3:3)

25: Youth would become rebellious. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy (2 Timothy 3:2)

26: Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, "for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation." (2 Peter 3:4). The Bible even reveals their motivation, they love lust (verse 3). They fail to understand that a day to the Lord is as a thousand years to us. God is not subject to the time that He created. He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book. The reason He seems to be silent, is because He is patiently waiting, not willing that any perish, but that all come to repentance.

Chapter 25 - Why Christ Tolerates the Wicked From The Revelations of Saint Birgitta

How cute. All those things were true at the time of their writing though. So why would they predict they would happen again when they had no reason to assume they would stop from happening? Only because they thought the world would end in their days, I would guess.
What reason do you have to accept those texts as saying the truth and only the truth?
"He can flick through time as we flick through the pages of a history book." How do you know that?
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