Gay Marriage-There is no gender in love

[Evany Star]

Ok, so today I was talking with my Christian friend about Gay marriage.

She said that two people of the same sex should not be married because God created males and females so that they can be married.

However, if you love someone and they love you back then isnt that enough? Why does gender have to matter?

I know that homosexuality is not a choice and you cant chose to be gay, its just who you are.

Consider this,

When you marry someone, is it because you love them or is it because they are of the opposite sex?



Marriage is about love, not gender.

[neoblossoms]

The issue with homosexuality is the sex and wasting sex fluid other than that nothing.Personally, I have nothing against homosexual who marriage but if sex is part of the bundle I will totally disagree the bible sai you have to without sex.Many christias believe homosexuals cant do it without sex.
Many say yeah, it's hard.But there is virgin gays and virgin lesbian just never seen them marry.Until that day homosexuality will continue to low down on by religion and nonreligion.

Evany Star

Ok, so today I was talking with my Christian friend about Gay marriage.

She said that two people of the same sex should not be married because God created males and females so that they can be married.

However, if you love someone and they love you back then isnt that enough? Why does gender have to matter?

I know that homosexuality is not a choice and you cant chose to be gay, its just who you are.

Consider this,

When you marry someone, is it because you love them or is it because they are of the opposite sex?



Marriage is about love, not gender.

[neoblossoms]

That if you claim to be gay in christian if you not.Everyone else donr follow so it's wrong to expect any different from homosexuals.To be honest straight couple ain't suppose to have sex to have sex.They know but quick to point the finger at gay people if the do.

[Trorbes]

Evany Star

Marriage is about love, not gender.

And love is heavily influenced by gender, aside from the rare few bisexuals to whom it means nothing. Please refrain from using fallacious reasoning to defend same-sex marriages, it makes it look bad.

[Evany Star]

Trorbes

Evany Star

Marriage is about love, not gender.

And love is heavily influenced by gender, aside from the rare few bisexuals to whom it means nothing. Please refrain from using fallacious reasoning to defend same-sex marriages, it makes it look bad.

No, love is not influenced by gender.

You love a person because they are a man and you are a woman? Really?

Yes, physical appearance is important when choosing a mate but its not everything.

A woman can marry a man if he has strong and powerful body but does she actually love him for who he is?

A man can marry a woman because she has big breast size and has an hour glass shape but is he marrying her out of love? Maybe he loves the body but not her.

If a person is gay then they are attracted to the same sex and the physical appearance is important. The same goes for a gay woman, she can be in love with another woman because of her body but not for her personality.

Oh please, I make gay marriages look bad? What about all of the other people who discriminate against homosexuals? That's so gay?

[Trorbes]

Evany Star

Trorbes

Evany Star

Marriage is about love, not gender.

And love is heavily influenced by gender, aside from the rare few bisexuals to whom it means nothing. Please refrain from using fallacious reasoning to defend same-sex marriages, it makes it look bad.

No, love is not influenced by gender.

You love a person because they are a man and you are a woman? Really?

Er, I'm a man, I'm bisexual, and yes actually, a person's sex does affect my attraction. For example, I'm partial to chubby women but prefer men to have an average build, and in general I'm much more interested in women than I am men.

Evany Star

Yes, physical appearance is important when choosing a mate but its not everything.

It's quite a lot, though.

Evany Star

A woman can marry a man if he has strong and powerful body but does she actually love him for who he is?

A man can marry a woman because she has big breast size and has an hour glass shape but is he marrying her out of love? Maybe he loves the body but not her.

A woman can marry a man if he's nice and considerate but is she actually in love with him? A man can marry a woman because she's intelligent and outgoing but if he's not attracted to her is it really love? Maybe he'd just rather be her friend.

Evany Star

If a person is gay then they are attracted to the same sex and the physical appearance is important. The same goes for a gay woman, she can be in love with another woman because of her body but not for her personality.

Yes, making your entire point about sex not being important... not important. People marry out of lust all the time, being gay doesn't alter that in any way.

Evany Star

Oh please, I make gay marriages look bad? What about all of the other people who discriminate against homosexuals? That's so gay?

No see, when you say dumb things to defend same-sex marriage, it makes it look like same-sex marriage is dumb, and that it's not worthy to defend. You're poisoning your own well.

[PhilosopherRob]

Here's a better question: Why are you giving what your Christian friend said any authority? It's an absurd morality, one that permits you to sell your daughter into slavery if she's bad. Just dismiss what he or she said as utter tripe.

[neoblossoms]

Devil back off!

PhilosopherRob

Here's a better question: Why are you giving what your Christian friend said any authority? It's an absurd morality, one that permits you to sell your daughter into slavery if she's bad. Just dismiss what he or she said as utter tripe.

[star_dweller]

Evany Star

Ok, so today I was talking with my Christian friend about Gay marriage.

She said that two people of the same sex should not be married because God created males and females so that they can be married.

However, if you love someone and they love you back then isnt that enough? Why does gender have to matter?

I know that homosexuality is not a choice and you cant chose to be gay, its just who you are.

Consider this,

When you marry someone, is it because you love them or is it because they are of the opposite sex?



Marriage is about love, not gender.

Actually homosexuality is a choice. It is not biological or inborn. It's strictly based on behavioral characteristics.

Also, with your argument, you are saying that polygamy and incest should also be allowed? Based on your argument, anyone who loves each other should be able to marry.

Many studies have also been conducted on gay marriages and heterosexual marriages. In homosexual marriages, as shown in a dutch study, the people in the "committed" relationship have an average of 8 other partners. Of course, heterosexual marriages have fidelity as well, but it is not near as much as homosexual relationships. If gay marriage was legalized, the definition of marriage itself could be rewritten. Eventually, marriage could be a binding contract between many partners and not just 2 which goes against everything that marriage stands for, a binding of a man and a woman.

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star_dweller

Evany Star

Ok, so today I was talking with my Christian friend about Gay marriage.

She said that two people of the same sex should not be married because God created males and females so that they can be married.

However, if you love someone and they love you back then isnt that enough? Why does gender have to matter?

I know that homosexuality is not a choice and you cant chose to be gay, its just who you are.

Consider this,

When you marry someone, is it because you love them or is it because they are of the opposite sex?



Marriage is about love, not gender.

Actually homosexuality is a choice. It is not biological or inborn. It's strictly based on behavioral characteristics.

Also, with your argument, you are saying that polygamy and incest should also be allowed? Based on your argument, anyone who loves each other should be able to marry.

Many studies have also been conducted on gay marriages and heterosexual marriages. In homosexual marriages, as shown in a dutch study, the people in the "committed" relationship have an average of 8 other partners. Of course, heterosexual marriages have fidelity as well, but it is not near as much as homosexual relationships. If gay marriage was legalized, the definition of marriage itself could be rewritten. Eventually, marriage could be a binding contract between many partners and not just 2 which goes against everything that marriage stands for, a binding of a man and a woman.

Great sources you got there. And marriage has not always been between only two people. Take a look at most of the kings in the Old Testament, they had multiple Wives. Solomon had, what, 700? And ***** would not be recognized, as Juveniles cannot legally consent.

[M. Angel]

Evany Star

Ok, so today I was talking with my Christian friend about Gay marriage.

She said that two people of the same sex should not be married because God created males and females so that they can be married.

However, if you love someone and they love you back then isnt that enough? Why does gender have to matter?

I know that homosexuality is not a choice and you cant chose to be gay, its just who you are.

Consider this,

When you marry someone, is it because you love them or is it because they are of the opposite sex?



Marriage is about love, not gender.

Totally a choice. I just went over this today in a "Is homosexuality a sin?" thread. Reasoning below.

M. Angel

Shimegamis_Rage

M. Angel

Shimegamis_Rage

Some people forget that Sodomy does NOT refer only to same-sex relations.

Sodomy refers to "unnatural" sexual intimacy. If a guy and girl have sex in an unnatural way (a**l or oral)... Then they are guilty of Sodomy, the same sin that Homosexuals are targeted for by the church.

a**l sex, oral sex and bestiality is included under "Sodomy". It isn't the fact that the genders are the same that makes sodomy, its the act itself. And the act itself is not limited to same-sex partners.

So some people that look down on homosexuals as sinful, may want to reconsider their own bedroom activities, hetero or not.

So as long as homosexuals aren't sexual then it's okay, doesn't that defeat the purpose then?

I agree with you on the above by the way, but when you combine the above the with the three types of love doesn't it essentially prove that homosexuality is a choice, sure not one that will get you sent to hell if you're a believer, but a choice none the less?

I don't consider homosexuality a choice. Nor do I personally see anything wrong with a**l or oral intercourse. But, it does raise to the point that a**l and oral heterosexual intercourse, something very common in relationships (even between professed Christians) is Sodomy. And that the sin that homosexuals are accused of is the act of commiting Sodomy, not for loving someone of the same gender.

So technically, yes, homosexuality itself is not a sin... But the act of Sodomy, which is not limited to homosexual relations, is.

Oh, I totally understand the point that your making about judging others sins as worse than your own, and I agree. Especially since it's usually sins of the tongue and mental attitude sins that are "the worst" and, when it gets right down to it, all sins are equally bad in the eyes of God. Add on top of this that everyone sins and, for some reason, people malign others for the sins that they partake when it's not the fact of whether, or how, people sin, but it's whether they believe in Christ that matters.

That said, I must critique your definition of homosexuality and give another bit on my view. According to your statement:

"And that the sin that homosexuals are accused of is the act of commiting Sodomy, not for loving someone of the same gender."

Homosexuality, just like heterosexuality, (in my view) is a choice because the central tenet of both is who you choose to have sex with. Just like how you can walk into a bar and pick either a dude, a chick, or no one to have sex with; you actively make this choice throughout your entire life. What you seem to be doing, and I don't fault you because tons of people do this as well, is mixing sex and love.

Love has no boundaries because it isn't gender specific. I could love as many guys and gals as I wanted, but that doesn't mean that I want to have sex with any of them. Likewise, I could lust after someone that I love, be it a guy or gal, but that needs to be held different from the love that I have of them. Gasp! Does this mean I'm saying that those in a heterosexual relationship are in the same boat and that they're love is a choice as well. Yes. Yes I am.

Lust is lust is lust. Love knows no gender, but being "homosexual" isn't about love...

Now I can go into non-religious reasons why homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry, but this should be enough for now.

[oHoN]

Marriage is about creating a stable family unit in which children can be properly raised and gay marriage does not do that.

[Abdul Salaam]

Marrying for love is a very modern concept.

Probably the reason Divorce is so high.

But yes, let the Gay's marry and all that good stuff.

[Sabertooth1980]

jesus aces

The issue with homosexuality is the sex and wasting sex fluid other than that nothing.Personally, I have nothing against homosexual who marriage but if sex is part of the bundle I will totally disagree the bible sai you have to without sex.Many christias believe homosexuals cant do it without sex.
Many say yeah, it's hard.But there is virgin gays and virgin lesbian just never seen them marry.Until that day homosexuality will continue to low down on by religion and nonreligion.

That's retarded. Wasting sex fluid? Seriously? You know what masturbation is and that not every single egg a woman produces or even the ones that are fertilized will reach maturity right?
Your last sentence is incoherent.

[maenad nuri]

oHoN

Marriage is about creating a stable family unit in which children can be properly raised and gay marriage does not do that.

I think you need to back that up.

(not to mention, what about people who get married who do not desire children?)