FAQs About Mormonism - Discussion

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

Is that just an insulting adjective, or is there actually a "satanic bible"? If it is actually another book, then why should we care what it says.

We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" is a nickname because we believe in the Book of Mormon-- and the Book of Mormon is named after the prophet who put most of the book together. "Mormon" is the first name of an important prophet, no more, no less, at least so far as we are connected with it.

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

Is that just an insulting adjective, or is there actually a "satanic bible"? If it is actually another book, then why should we care what it says.

We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" is a nickname because we believe in the Book of Mormon-- and the Book of Mormon is named after the prophet who put most of the book together. "Mormon" is the first name of an important prophet, no more, no less, at least so far as we are connected with it.

You have to remember that to a Christian, Satan is as real a spiritual influence as Christ, so possible similarities between Satanic rituals and labels when applied to a particular church WILL look suspicious to someone who's carefully watching out for just that sort of deception. Are you going to tell people "Oh don't worry about Satan, he won't tempt you into believing something that's not true!" Because when you break it down, that's how people fall into traps: they stop clinging to what they know is true and lean towards something new and flashy.

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

Is that just an insulting adjective, or is there actually a "satanic bible"? If it is actually another book, then why should we care what it says.

We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" is a nickname because we believe in the Book of Mormon-- and the Book of Mormon is named after the prophet who put most of the book together. "Mormon" is the first name of an important prophet, no more, no less, at least so far as we are connected with it.

You have to remember that to a Christian, Satan is as real a spiritual influence as Christ, so possible similarities between Satanic rituals and labels when applied to a particular church WILL look suspicious to someone who's carefully watching out for just that sort of deception. Are you going to tell people "Oh don't worry about Satan, he won't tempt you into believing something that's not true!" Because when you break it down, that's how people fall into traps: they stop clinging to what they know is true and lean towards something new and flashy.

I don't know much about Satanism, but if I understand you, you're saying that the church of Satan has made the claim that the term "Mormon" is evil. Well, if you are a Christian then you can safely assume that anything that Satanism teaches is blasphemy, so why would you believe what they said about Mormons? If our church was so evil then he'd want people to join it, and then his own religion would try to make it sound appealing. You already said that Satan lies, so why would you believe any statements made by some satanic bible.

Anyway, even if you could dig up some ancient language where "Mormon" meant something negative. All it would mean is that Mormon's mother had a bad taste in names.

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

Is that just an insulting adjective, or is there actually a "satanic bible"? If it is actually another book, then why should we care what it says.

We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" is a nickname because we believe in the Book of Mormon-- and the Book of Mormon is named after the prophet who put most of the book together. "Mormon" is the first name of an important prophet, no more, no less, at least so far as we are connected with it.

You have to remember that to a Christian, Satan is as real a spiritual influence as Christ, so possible similarities between Satanic rituals and labels when applied to a particular church WILL look suspicious to someone who's carefully watching out for just that sort of deception. Are you going to tell people "Oh don't worry about Satan, he won't tempt you into believing something that's not true!" Because when you break it down, that's how people fall into traps: they stop clinging to what they know is true and lean towards something new and flashy.

I don't know much about Satanism, but if I understand you, you're saying that the church of Satan has made the claim that the term "Mormon" is evil. Well, if you are a Christian then you can safely assume that anything that Satanism teaches is blasphemy, so why would you believe what they said about Mormons? If our church was so evil then he'd want people to join it, and then his own religion would try to make it sound appealing. You already said that Satan lies, so why would you believe any statements made by some satanic bible.

Anyway, even if you could dig up some ancient language where "Mormon" meant something negative. All it would mean is that Mormon's mother had a bad taste in names.

I'm not saying that Satan said it was evil. Satan wouldn't WANT people to think it's wrong. Think about it: a deceiver doesn't want people to know they're deceived. It's not that someone looked at the Satanic Bible to learn how to live, but rather how to be wary of other areas that are rooted in lies. If one is to be able to discern truth from lies, they must be aware of what the lies will look like, lest they be easily fooled into a doctrine by pretty words and promises like many wives and becoming a god. I mean, there's reason why Mormonism is criticized by many as a perverted, sex based religion, and sex is one of many things in creation that the Enemy has perverted into something out of its intended context. Whether or not you SAY the modern church is not rooted in these things, the fact remains that Joseph Smith instigated an "everlasting covenant" (which oddly enough lasted no more than 50 years) which involved the allowing of taking many wives being justified to a man.

Long story short, actually READ the article. The satanic church is not the one that made the claim. It was a researcher who compared terminology in the Satanic Bible with the label that your church is branded with. A rather unlikely coincidence.

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

Is that just an insulting adjective, or is there actually a "satanic bible"? If it is actually another book, then why should we care what it says.

We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" is a nickname because we believe in the Book of Mormon-- and the Book of Mormon is named after the prophet who put most of the book together. "Mormon" is the first name of an important prophet, no more, no less, at least so far as we are connected with it.

You have to remember that to a Christian, Satan is as real a spiritual influence as Christ, so possible similarities between Satanic rituals and labels when applied to a particular church WILL look suspicious to someone who's carefully watching out for just that sort of deception. Are you going to tell people "Oh don't worry about Satan, he won't tempt you into believing something that's not true!" Because when you break it down, that's how people fall into traps: they stop clinging to what they know is true and lean towards something new and flashy.

I don't know much about Satanism, but if I understand you, you're saying that the church of Satan has made the claim that the term "Mormon" is evil. Well, if you are a Christian then you can safely assume that anything that Satanism teaches is blasphemy, so why would you believe what they said about Mormons? If our church was so evil then he'd want people to join it, and then his own religion would try to make it sound appealing. You already said that Satan lies, so why would you believe any statements made by some satanic bible.

Anyway, even if you could dig up some ancient language where "Mormon" meant something negative. All it would mean is that Mormon's mother had a bad taste in names.

I'm not saying that Satan said it was evil. Satan wouldn't WANT people to think it's wrong. Think about it: a deceiver doesn't want people to know they're deceived. It's not that someone looked at the Satanic Bible to learn how to live, but rather how to be wary of other areas that are rooted in lies. If one is to be able to discern truth from lies, they must be aware of what the lies will look like, lest they be easily fooled into a doctrine by pretty words and promises like many wives and becoming a god. I mean, there's reason why Mormonism is criticized by many as a perverted, sex based religion, and sex is one of many things in creation that the Enemy has perverted into something out of its intended context. Whether or not you SAY the modern church is not rooted in these things, the fact remains that Joseph Smith instigated an "everlasting covenant" (which oddly enough lasted no more than 50 years) which involved the allowing of taking many wives being justified to a man.

Long story short, actually READ the article. The satanic church is not the one that made the claim. It was a researcher who compared terminology in the Satanic Bible with the label that your church is branded with. A rather unlikely coincidence.

I didn't read the article, so I'm sorry if that caused miss-communication. I don't like reading long things unless they interest me a whole. I just thought the basic idea seemed ridiculous, so I posted to share my thoughts.

Moving on; so "mormon" was just a term that was used in the satanic bible. I should think Christians would dismiss everything in the Satanic bible as blasphemy, just based on the fact that it is the Satanic bible. That includes the credibility of any terms it contains.

If you have problems with the church doctrine itself, fine, there can be a separate discussion about that. My point is that there's no reason the LDS church should be thought of as suspicious or evil because of some term that is found in what all Christians should consider a blasphemous document anyway. If you want to draw any connection between them, it's probably this-- Satan put the word "mormon" in his bible knowing that it would cause people like you to think that the church is bad, therefore Satan WANTS you to think it's bad, therefore it actually is good.

If you have a problem with the church, then have a problem with the church itself. Don't say it must be bad because of some weak connection with another religion.

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

Is that just an insulting adjective, or is there actually a "satanic bible"? If it is actually another book, then why should we care what it says.

We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" is a nickname because we believe in the Book of Mormon-- and the Book of Mormon is named after the prophet who put most of the book together. "Mormon" is the first name of an important prophet, no more, no less, at least so far as we are connected with it.

You have to remember that to a Christian, Satan is as real a spiritual influence as Christ, so possible similarities between Satanic rituals and labels when applied to a particular church WILL look suspicious to someone who's carefully watching out for just that sort of deception. Are you going to tell people "Oh don't worry about Satan, he won't tempt you into believing something that's not true!" Because when you break it down, that's how people fall into traps: they stop clinging to what they know is true and lean towards something new and flashy.

I don't know much about Satanism, but if I understand you, you're saying that the church of Satan has made the claim that the term "Mormon" is evil. Well, if you are a Christian then you can safely assume that anything that Satanism teaches is blasphemy, so why would you believe what they said about Mormons? If our church was so evil then he'd want people to join it, and then his own religion would try to make it sound appealing. You already said that Satan lies, so why would you believe any statements made by some satanic bible.

Anyway, even if you could dig up some ancient language where "Mormon" meant something negative. All it would mean is that Mormon's mother had a bad taste in names.

I'm not saying that Satan said it was evil. Satan wouldn't WANT people to think it's wrong. Think about it: a deceiver doesn't want people to know they're deceived. It's not that someone looked at the Satanic Bible to learn how to live, but rather how to be wary of other areas that are rooted in lies. If one is to be able to discern truth from lies, they must be aware of what the lies will look like, lest they be easily fooled into a doctrine by pretty words and promises like many wives and becoming a god. I mean, there's reason why Mormonism is criticized by many as a perverted, sex based religion, and sex is one of many things in creation that the Enemy has perverted into something out of its intended context. Whether or not you SAY the modern church is not rooted in these things, the fact remains that Joseph Smith instigated an "everlasting covenant" (which oddly enough lasted no more than 50 years) which involved the allowing of taking many wives being justified to a man.

Long story short, actually READ the article. The satanic church is not the one that made the claim. It was a researcher who compared terminology in the Satanic Bible with the label that your church is branded with. A rather unlikely coincidence.

I didn't read the article, so I'm sorry if that caused miss-communication. I don't like reading long things unless they interest me a whole. I just thought the basic idea seemed ridiculous, so I posted to share my thoughts.

Moving on; so "mormon" was just a term that was used in the satanic bible. I should think Christians would dismiss everything in the Satanic bible as blasphemy, just based on the fact that it is the Satanic bible. That includes the credibility of any terms it contains.

If you have problems with the church doctrine itself, fine, there can be a separate discussion about that. My point is that there's no reason the LDS church should be thought of as suspicious or evil because of some term that is found in what all Christians should consider a blasphemous document anyway. If you want to draw any connection between them, it's probably this-- Satan put the word "mormon" in his bible knowing that it would cause people like you to think that the church is bad, therefore Satan WANTS you to think it's bad, therefore it actually is good.

If you have a problem with the church, then have a problem with the church itself. Don't say it must be bad because of some weak connection with another religion.

You're missing the big picture. A spirit was designated for Satanic worship, named Mormos. His followers are called Mormons. If you think it's small coincidence that your "one true church" I'd ask you to analyze the odds. You're dismissing it as though no deception or confusion has EVER been at the heart of your church. I don't know about you, but if my label was the SAME label others call themselves when following an outspokenly satanic doctrine, I'd be worried about what I'm actually believing.
And if you're not willing to read what I commented about, you really need to think about how you enter a conversation, since you entered this discussion with absolutely no knowledge of the context of my statements. If it doesn't interest you, don't even try to justify yourself because you just told us all that you don't care. As for my problems with your actual doctrines and systems, there's pages upon pages of issues for you to review if you want to try justifying following a series of false prophets, as proven by history.

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It's kinda funny how, when I listen to two christians of different religions argue with each other, it sounds like they ought to be on the same side. Same basic points, same figure head, but brought up in a slightly different culture. Silly. whee

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

BTW... Why are people even discussing the information on these pages? So much of the information on these sites is so moronic that it's hard to believe the writers lived long enough to write it. Which leads to an important question... Did they live so long because they themselves are actually not so moronic as to believe what they themselves have written? Perhaps it is they that try to mislead. Or maybe christianity in general is just a safe haven for egoists who want to point out the flaws in others while having the support of peers.

This thread is getting far to silly.

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

BTW... Why are people even discussing the information on these pages? So much of the information on these sites is so moronic that it's hard to believe the writers lived long enough to write it. Which leads to an important question... Did they live so long because they themselves are actually not so moronic as to believe what they themselves have written? Perhaps it is they that try to mislead. Or maybe christianity in general is just a safe haven for egoists who want to point out the flaws in others while having the support of peers.

This thread is getting far to silly.

I'd have to agree, it's about like comparing the Japanese kasa(umbrella if memory serves me) to the Spanish casa(house), or the Japanes kesu(to erase I think, or some other verb) to the Spanish queso(cheese), or the Japanese verb miru (to see) and the Spanaish verb mirar(to see). Linguistic coincidences pop up a lot, even in unrelated languages like Spanish and Japanese. Anyways, it's my opinion that there are more substantial discussions to be had regarding the veracity of the LDS church than this - even in the realm of linguistics.

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Cadasa52

Most mormons unfortunately don't know this;if they do their in denial.

Mormos in the satanic bible means god of the dead; the followers are called mormons.
http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/satanic-rituals-within-mormonism
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Religions/Mormons/mormon.htm

BTW... Why are people even discussing the information on these pages? So much of the information on these sites is so moronic that it's hard to believe the writers lived long enough to write it. Which leads to an important question... Did they live so long because they themselves are actually not so moronic as to believe what they themselves have written? Perhaps it is they that try to mislead. Or maybe christianity in general is just a safe haven for egoists who want to point out the flaws in others while having the support of peers.

This thread is getting far to silly.

I'd have to agree, it's about like comparing the Japanese kasa(umbrella if memory serves me) to the Spanish casa(house), or the Japanes kesu(to erase I think, or some other verb) to the Spanish queso(cheese), or the Japanese verb miru (to see) and the Spanaish verb mirar(to see). Linguistic coincidences pop up a lot, even in unrelated languages like Spanish and Japanese. Anyways, it's my opinion that there are more substantial discussions to be had regarding the veracity of the LDS church than this - even in the realm of linguistics.

You mean issues like Joseph Smith's failed prophecy, denial of the priesthood to blacks, polygamy's supposed justifications and the word of wisdom's ban of even simple things like 'hot drinks'? Because these have been done to death and only resulted in circular and non-contextual arguments coming from the Mormons apologists here.

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Krego-sama

It's kinda funny how, when I listen to two christians of different religions argue with each other, it sounds like they ought to be on the same side. Same basic points, same figure head, but brought up in a slightly different culture. Silly. whee

Are you stating that Mormons are Christians? Because Latter Day Saints at its roots has some very different structural and theological issues to work out if they're to be considered of the same faith as what the Bible tells us.

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Krego-sama

It's kinda funny how, when I listen to two christians of different religions argue with each other, it sounds like they ought to be on the same side. Same basic points, same figure head, but brought up in a slightly different culture. Silly. whee

Are you stating that Mormons are Christians? Because Latter Day Saints at its roots has some very different structural and theological issues to work out if they're to be considered of the same faith as what the Bible tells us.

Christian = believes in Christ

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Neophenx de Chrysalya

And if you're not willing to read what I commented about, you really need to think about how you enter a conversation, since you entered this discussion with absolutely no knowledge of the context of my statements. If it doesn't interest you, don't even try to justify yourself because you just told us all that you don't care. As for my problems with your actual doctrines and systems, there's pages upon pages of issues for you to review if you want to try justifying following a series of false prophets, as proven by history.

I entered this conversation by quoting someone else. You're the one who entered the discussion with me. I never intended to talk about the specifics of the accusation-- my point was that it makes no sense to judge one church based on some other unrelated church, especially when one church regards the other as blasphemous. The similarity in terms has no meaning in and of itself-- it's just one of those things that builds up the mistrust for those who already dislike the LDS church. "I don't know about you", but my faith is not based on the label-- it's based on the doctrine.

I also never intended to justify myself. I don't like arguing. I don't like debating. I like to share my views and beliefs, and I like it when other people share their views and beliefs with me. I like to put in my two cents about things that interest me, but I'm not going to waste my time doing tons of research into every little thing that catches my eye. Sometimes I'm just curious about how someone can give credit to something that I find a ridiculous notion. I'm sure you feel the same way about me, so you can't get angry at me for that.

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Krego-sama

It's kinda funny how, when I listen to two christians of different religions argue with each other, it sounds like they ought to be on the same side. Same basic points, same figure head, but brought up in a slightly different culture. Silly. whee

Hate to argue. Love to hear other people's points of view in contrast to my own. whee