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"XflintX"
So a bunch of dirt was floating around and smushed together to create the Earth.
Uh, no. All SORTS of element/molecule particles are out in space, and, when a LOT of it started to congregate around a certain area, their combined mass created a strong enough pull of gravity to pull all those element/molecule particles to create ALL planets, not just earth.
By the way, this has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution is the theory of the DIVERSITY of life, not the formation of planets.
"XflintX"
Then Lava came up from the Earth and created the land.
Uh, no. changes in water levels (among other things) created land. Lavas DO create islands, but they do not account for all formations of all land masses.
Also, evolution has nothing to do with this. Evolution is the theory of the DIVERSITY of life, not the formation of land masses.
"XflintX"
Then ashes from the volcanoes flew up and created the atmosphere.
Uh, no. There always WAS an atmosphere, however, just not the same as we knew it to be.
Also, this has nothing to do with EVOLUTION, the point of this thread. I have thus, created an acronym, because I've had to say this to a lot of people already. ETDL (Evolution is the Theory of the DIVERSITY of Life), not the formation of the atmosphere.
"XflintX"
Later on, the atmosphere created clouds that rained down and created the ocean, and then by the changing temperature of the water the first organisms came to be.
You've got your order messed up. First planet, then water, THEN land.
Also, ETDL, not the formation of the oceans.
"XflintX"
Wait, if jellyfish had to stun fish and eat fish to feed themselves, and fish came after jellyfish then what would jelly fish eat?
I don't know for sure, but how about other animals? I don't think jellyfish limited themselves to fish, that that is is the most common animal in the sea now-a-days. They'd probably eat anything that came across their tentacles and got stung.
However, Google is being retarded with me on this, and I can't get it to help me find some prehistoric jellies.
"XflintX"
Plenty of new species came after that like trilobites magically formed from jellyfish and bacteria that still exist today.
Well, Americans split off from the Europeans, so why are there still Europeans? Same concept.
"XflintX"
Later on creatures crawled up on earth and morphed into what we are today and to top it off, it's all it's all based on the "Well Tested" Theory that the Earth and the Moon were created at the same time.
What the hell? What does the formation of the Earth and moon have to do with evolution? Where are you getting this information?
"XflintX"
Which is not likely (not like it could be tested any way), because if they were formed next to each other it would be very un probable because it would be quite a coincidence that they were created at the same time,
Um... why? Wouldn't it be much easier, since, say, the planets (and, actually, now that I think of it, almost ALL astral bodies) are formed due to gravitational pull of a HUGE amount of particles. Then the particles could be pulled two different ways, one to make the planet earth, and one to make the moon.
"XflintX"
If it broke off from the Earth it would be altered, and the shape would be a lot different similar to the shape of the earth and other planets in the solar system, which contradicts how they find the absolute age of fossils.
... A hur? How would the shape of the planet change the half life of Carbon-14? and besides, this would take place before the planet was solid, and thus, it'd simple pull back together due to the force of gravity upon it.
"XflintX"
If your not a Christian, or believe in any sort of after life, then how the world started shouldn't concern them any way.
Why? Why shouldn't we be curious about this sort of thing? How come only Christians can ask about that sort of thing.
Also, ETDL.
"XflintX"
God is the Ultimate Existence who most likely had nothing to create him except for the scientific rule that was something merely like �Every action has the same or opposite reaction� which could be used to be explain the existence of God.
Um, actually, science can't comment AT ALL on the supernatural. Otherwise, it just wouldn't be science, which explains the natural.
Also, which one?
"XflintX"
The question which this is in response to has been used a lot but can also be used similarly to the concept of evolution by the question: where did the first bit of matter come from?
ETDL, not the creation of matter.
"XflintX"
Or where did all the dust floating in space come from?
ETDL.
"XflintX"
The answer can�t be explained the same way the question about God can because dust is no where near an infinite being that can be created like wise.
Why? Also, not dust, particles of elements and molecules. Would you call a particle of water, dust? or a particle of hydrogen, dust?
Also, ETDL, not this.
"XflintX"
There would have to be an ultimate existence in order for anything to appear.
Um, what? Why? Why does there have to be?
"XflintX"
Such as: a half cup can exist as long as a full cup can.
.... WTF?
"XflintX"
Finite life can only exist if there is an ultimate being to give it purpose and potential.
Why? Why does this have to be this way? Besides, does this mean that the baby who only lives a couple of hours before dying of a horrible disease had this happen to them because the "ultimate being" gave it only that purpose and potential? What about those who died before they could even be born? Or those who died while still a child, be it for any reason?
"XflintX"
If we really evolved from monkeys then where are the others in the evolutionary chain?
We didn't evolve from monkeys. We and monkeys have a common ancestor. Also what do you mean "where are the others in the evolutionary chain"?
Well, here you go...
http://chnm.gmu.edu/resources/essays/images/EvolutionIntelligentDesignClimateChange/evolution1.jpg
http://www.paleoweb.net/pal-ges/bilder/evolution-poster.jpg
"XflintX"
If we evolved from micro organisms every thing would be unstable and constantly changing and mutating uncontrollably or predictably.
Um, yeah. That's actually how evolution works.
"XflintX"
The new reproductive system, different from a cell reproducing with itself could not have developed suddenly, it wouldn�t have happened.
Why? Even in cell reproduction, sometimes, when copying itself, it makes a mistake. In fact, that's one of the ways we get cancer.
"XflintX"
How could organisms stop reproducing with themselves and grow two new reproductive systems, dependant on other reproductive system within the same time period if it took millions of years, along with the theory in evolution that we developed a body that could live much longer than before.
Because it didn't start OFF as two seperate sex organs, but instead, both sex organs on each individual (with the ability to also reproduce by spitting/budding/etc.. Yes, you heard me correct. The first sexually reproductive organism were hermaphrodites.
"XflintX"
To believe that such a reproductive system could form like that would be unlikely, to think it worked and they found each other within the same time period would be insane. .
Um, populations evolve, not individual organisms. And like I said before, they didn't HAVE to find another individual to breed with. They could have just made their own by asexual reproduction, with everything at least mostly the same, and then bred with it. Yeah, clonecest, I know.
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