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"TrueSacredRahXephon"
"XflintX"
So a bunch of dirt was floating around and smushed together to create the Earth. Then Lava came up from the Earth and created the land. Then ashes from the volcanoes flew up and created the atmosphere. Later on, the atmosphere created clouds that rained down and created the ocean, and then by the changing temperature of the water the first organisms came to be.

What?
Iron and silicates gravitated together to form the planet. There was always land.
Ashes flying up from volcanos could not create an atmosphere. The early atmosphere was made of toxic (to us) gasses that were also pulled toward the Earth as it was forming.
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Wait, if jellyfish had to stun fish and eat fish to feed themselves, and fish came after jellyfish then what would jelly fish eat?

Plankton, just like they do now.
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Plenty of new species came after that like trilobites magically formed from jellyfish and bacteria that still exist today. Later on creatures crawled up on earth and morphed into what we are today and to top it off, it's all it's all based on the "Well Tested" Theory that the Earth and the Moon were created at the same time.
I've heard of no such theory.
Please enlighten me.
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Which is not likely (not like it could be tested any way), because if they were formed next to each other it would be very un probable because it would be quite a coincidence that they were created at the same time, If it broke off from the Earth it would be altered, and the shape would be a lot different similar to the shape of the earth
The moon was formed when the Earth was still fairly active and was not completely solid. A large object glanced off the Earth, causing part of it to come off and start orbiting. We have solid evidence that the Moon was once a part of the Earth.
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and other planets in the solar system, which contradicts how they find the absolute age of fossils.
The absolute age of fossils has nothing to do with the Moon. It's found using radiometric dating.
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The question which this is in response to has been used a lot but can also be used similarly to the concept of evolution by the question: where did the first bit of matter come from? Or where did all the dust floating in space come from? The answer can’t be explained the same way the question about God can because dust is no where near an infinite being that can be created like wise.
None of this has anything to do with evolution.
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There would have to be an ultimate existence in order for anything to appear.
Logically fallacious.
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Such as: a half cup can exist as long as a full cup can. Finite life can only exist if there is an ultimate being to give it purpose and potential.
Non sequitur. Finiteness can exist without infinity. Finite numbers are not infinity divided by some other number.

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If we really evolved from monkeys then where are the others in the evolutionary chain?
Dead.

We did not evolve from monkeys. Does no one read previous posts? This has been rebuked as early as page 94-95.
http://www.gaiaonline.com/gaia/redirect.php?r=http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat02.html
We are more closely related to apes, than to monkeys.

To the original poster of this drivel, I would suggest that you read back a few pages to find out what has already been debunked. As well as to the person who thinks the original author had some good points.
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If we evolved from micro organisms every thing would be unstable and constantly changing and mutating uncontrollably or predictably.
Yeah.
What, you think life is completely static and unchanging?
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The new reproductive system, different from a cell reproducing with itself could not have developed suddenly, it wouldn’t have happened. How could organisms stop reproducing with themselves and grow two new reproductive systems, dependant on other reproductive system within the same time period if it took millions of years, along with the theory in evolution that we developed a body that could live much longer than before. To believe that such a reproductive system could form like that would be unlikely, to think it worked and they found each other within the same time period would be insane.
Organs can develop new purposes that are different from their original use.
Besides that, this is an argumentum ad ignorantium. Just because you don't know, or because it has not been discovered, does not mean that it's impossible. Even if there was no way to know or to find out, that would still not prove evolution wrong.

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Dinosaurs probably were dragons from the Medieval Times, there skeletal designs seem very similar, and they lived humans as was recorded in the Medieval Times; we believe everything else recorded, why not that?

Who's "we"?


Oh, Christians.

I would like the link that proves dragons existed. I think they existed, but though I am not sure, I will not make a statement without proof on that one.[

quote]So since they lived at the same time as humans we didn’t evolve from them.
Are you trying to look ignorant or are you genuinely oblivious?
Humans did not directly descend from dinosaurs. Even if they did, simultaneous existence does not make descent from dinosaurs impossible. It just means that the species diverged at some point and neither the original species nor the new species died out.
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The reason for the mass extinction is most likely because they have no reproductive system, but can live for a very long time because of its good body structure, hard scaly rough skin, and they lived in caves. It also says that on the Discovery Channel.
What? No reproductive system?
What the hell are you smoking?

The Discovery Channel said that the dinosaurs died because of no reproductive organs? You will provide proof for that one of course.
 
     
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Dr.Kroger
 
"amacat"
"XflintX"


Dinosaurs probably were dragons from the Medieval Times, there skeletal designs seem very similar, and they lived humans as was recorded in the Medieval Times; we believe everything else recorded, why not that? So since they lived at the same time as humans we didn’t evolve from them. The reason for the mass extinction is most likely because they have no reproductive system, but can live for a very long time because of its good body structure, hard scaly rough skin, and they lived in caves. It also says that on the Discovery Channel.

You know when the knights had to go "slay the dragon the save the princess" thing was around? I think that's when the dinosaurs were extinct because if you think about it, the knight's missions were infact to kill all the "dragons" (aka dinosaurs). So, yeah, you're right about the Medival Times thing.


One or both of you will provide proof as to this theory being correct, yes?
     
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Dr.Kroger
Evolution = fiction.




That idea came from this guy who was obviously bored and wanted to be famous so said that Man was evolved from Apes. =/
 
     
LOL.
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"Roscone."
Evolution = fiction.




That idea came from this guy who was obviously bored and wanted to be famous so said that Man was evolved from Apes. =/


No.

You fail...

Evolution is the changing of genes from geration to generation.

You don't look exactly like your parents, and even if you do, you know of someone who looks diffrent from their parents..

The physical and other diffrences are exspressions of the genes...

Speciation, evolution sooo far that a new species is created. Meaning that it cannot make fertile offspring with the other species. That would be what your thinking of...

Also evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life or any other theory.

And humans don't evolve from apes, dumbass. 3nodding

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And if you're speaking of Charles Darwin, he was setting out to disprove evolution and find proof for creationism, but there is so much outstanding proof agaisn't creationism and for evolution that he changed what he believed.
     
"Langlen"
That's because we didn't evolve from monkies, but a common ancestor.

True, we did come from a common ancestor. His name was Adam.

"Langlen"
Evolution is fact. I don't believe in it, believe implies faith. I know it's true.


How can you know, since there is no real difinitive evidence to that effect?
 
     
 
"songsparrow"
"Langlen"
That's because we didn't evolve from monkies, but a common ancestor.

True, we did come from a common ancestor. His name was Adam.


You just said that monkeys evolved from adam, meaning man...

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"Langlen"
Evolution is fact. I don't believe in it, believe implies faith. I know it's true.


How can you know, since there is no real difinitive evidence to that effect?


Evolution is the changing of genes from geration to generation.

You don't look exactly like your parents, and even if you do, you know of someone who looks diffrent from their parents..

The physical and other diffrences are exspressions of the genes.
     
"xorflex"
"Queen of the tigers"
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the bibles a story book, created from ppls imaginations.
bet you cant prove that.
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jesus did exsist but him n his 12 diciples were con artests
bet you cant prove that either.

but the argument that the bible has a story book has one advantage:
namely that, being a book, it must have been created by SOMEONE, so
half the argumant is already proven
*looks around for visual evidence of God*
curious, not to say there is no God but stil........curious


What is the diffrence between a god you cannot see, cannot hear, cannot feel and no god at all?

[Agnostic Theist]
 
     
 
"songsparrow"
How can you know, since there is no real difinitive evidence to that effect?
What was that? No evidence of evolution?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_evolution
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA202.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB910.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB901.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html

Of course, there's a very high chance that you will not read more than the first few lines of any of those, if that.
     
"Tsubasa_Gaijin"
"Roscone."
Evolution = fiction.




That idea came from this guy who was obviously bored and wanted to be famous so said that Man was evolved from Apes. =/


No.

You fail...

Evolution is the changing of genes from geration to generation.

You don't look exactly like your parents, and even if you do, you know of someone who looks diffrent from their parents..

The physical and other diffrences are exspressions of the genes...

Speciation, evolution sooo far that a new species is created. Meaning that it cannot make fertile offspring with the other species. That would be what your thinking of...

Also evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life or any other theory.

And humans don't evolve from apes, dumbass. 3nodding

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And if you're speaking of Charles Darwin, he was setting out to disprove evolution and find proof for creationism, but there is so much outstanding proof agaisn't creationism and for evolution that he changed what he believed.

Oh, interesting. :]

Fiction.






I don't care though.
 
     
LOL.
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"Tsubasa_Gaijin"
"songsparrow"
"Langlen"
That's because we didn't evolve from monkies, but a common ancestor.

True, we did come from a common ancestor. His name was Adam.


You just said that monkeys evolved from adam, meaning man...


Im thinking more of a Lucy than an Adam.
     
"Roscone."
"Tsubasa_Gaijin"
"Roscone."
Evolution = fiction.




That idea came from this guy who was obviously bored and wanted to be famous so said that Man was evolved from Apes. =/


No.

You fail...

Evolution is the changing of genes from geration to generation.

You don't look exactly like your parents, and even if you do, you know of someone who looks diffrent from their parents..

The physical and other diffrences are exspressions of the genes...

Speciation, evolution sooo far that a new species is created. Meaning that it cannot make fertile offspring with the other species. That would be what your thinking of...

Also evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life or any other theory.

And humans don't evolve from apes, dumbass. 3nodding

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And if you're speaking of Charles Darwin, he was setting out to disprove evolution and find proof for creationism, but there is so much outstanding proof agaisn't creationism and for evolution that he changed what he believed.

Oh, interesting. :]

Fiction.


I find it amazing that you can still claim that evolution is fiction, when you quite clearly have read s**t all about the theory, and more to the point, cannot explain why the alternative (creationism) can be considered any less fictitious.

If anything, it is far more fair to say that creationism is fiction, since its main source of 'evidence' is a story book. There is certainly nothing to suggest that the bible is any more authoritative than Alice in Wonderland.

"Roscone"
I don't care though.


Then why in the f**k have you chosen to participate in an extended discussion? Go back to your sandbox and play with your wee-wee.
 
     
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"Roscone."
"Tsubasa_Gaijin"
"Roscone."
Evolution = fiction.




That idea came from this guy who was obviously bored and wanted to be famous so said that Man was evolved from Apes. =/


No.

You fail...

Evolution is the changing of genes from geration to generation.

You don't look exactly like your parents, and even if you do, you know of someone who looks diffrent from their parents..

The physical and other diffrences are exspressions of the genes...

Speciation, evolution sooo far that a new species is created. Meaning that it cannot make fertile offspring with the other species. That would be what your thinking of...

Also evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life or any other theory.

And humans don't evolve from apes, dumbass. 3nodding

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And if you're speaking of Charles Darwin, he was setting out to disprove evolution and find proof for creationism, but there is so much outstanding proof agaisn't creationism and for evolution that he changed what he believed.

Oh, interesting. :]

Fiction.






I don't care though.



Why does this give me the impression you're a child?

Hmmm...

Grow up a bit?
     
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Oh, interesting. :]

Fiction.

I don't care though.


You act like a small child that claims, over and over, "I can do it, I can do it!" and then, when his friends ask him to follow through and show them, delivers a sulky, "Don't wanna."

Because of course, having been engaged with reasonable conversation and presented with evidence you claim to have wanted, the best thing to do is withdraw and profess
no longer to care.

I second the above opinion. If you're going to be childish, you don't belong in ED. Back up your claims, or take them someplace they're welcome.
 
     
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I believe that its fiction because Nothing has changed except we have killed off most animals like the Uktena and the dragon (I believe this because every story has a truth so something must have scared us.) Monkeys are still the same in Africa, the animals are the same as they were a thousand years ago. There could still be a very good explanation but that's why I believe its fiction.
     
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"The Shirahime"
I believe that its fiction because Nothing has changed except we have killed off most animals like the Uktena and the dragon (I believe this because every story has a truth so something must have scared us.) Monkeys are still the same in Africa, the animals are the same as they were a thousand years ago. There could still be a very good explanation but that's why I believe its fiction.


Dragons? Uktena? Your post is a sarcastic joke, right?

Please by joking and not just stupid...
 
     
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