Damnation and paradise being definate.

[Demyan The Devil]

Don't you think that would be bloody boring and depressing? An eternity of nothing changing. The souls in Heaven would sing praises and rejoice for all eternity and the souls in Hell would roast and scream and God would never pluck any of them out no matter how many favours they offered. And it would remain that way forever and ever and ever.

That seems really dull and sad to me. Surely something interesting would have to happen during all that time. Another rebellion, perhaps? Perhaps souls in Heaven decide they want to give up paradise so that they could see their loved ones in Hell? That's assuming they still have free will and are not turned into automatons with the memories of their damned relatives erased.

[TrueLore]

This assumes that it's unchanging. But yes, notions of an eternity of pain or pleasure don't make any sense. Eternal torment is never warranted for any amount of evil, and eternal paradise is incredibly wishful and dull.

I believe it was once doctrine, or at least theological surmising, Catholic I believe, that a benefit of being in heaven was to look down and laugh at the damned.

[MONSTROUS-DEITY]

Reincarnation makes more sense imo.

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

I'm finding myself aiming for an annihilationistic view, since nowhere is it said in the Tanakh that souls are immortal.

[Votaro]

MONSTROUS-DEITY

Reincarnation makes more sense imo.

Not to mention it is an older concept of the after life and actually has some scientific support for it.

[Kerubiel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

According to Revelations, won't God's Kingdom, and moreover all of the saved who are resurrected to live in it, only reign for one thousand years?

[Abdul Salaam]

Why would it be unchanging?
Why would it be something we can even comprehend?
Why would it follow rules of perceptions that govern us?
Who said we do nothing but sing praises?

[Sailor Loveless]

It is dull and sad. Well, at least the premise of it based on the advertising of the religious masses. Big lake of endless fire and pain or happy go lucky times on a cloud in some shiny place. Certainly doesn't appeal to everyone. But if God's real I suspect it only really has to appeal to him, and we're just stuck with it. ninja I didn't get to pick my parent's house, for example. I just chose if I wanted to obey the rules and live there. Or if I broke the rules I could go live with my aunt... which would have been the equivalent of hell for my atheist mind. So I can understand that bit of it anyway. But I also think if heaven were real there would be a lot more to it than most people make out. Maybe like "What Dreams Will Come." with robbin Williams. Or heck, any number of things. But then again, perhaps speculation on this matter is futile.

[bluerain202]

I think the concept of Hell is not as physical as people think it to be. It is more like "the absence of God", under the belief that God is life. Instead of firey and filled with tortured dudes, I'd think it barren, cold, and lonely like an Earth with no sun.
However, all of it is simply musings of people. No one knows what the afterlife is like (as if there is one) no matter how "authoritative" they may be.

[False Dichotomy]

Melly Kwistmass

Don't you think that would be bloody boring and depressing? An eternity of nothing changing. The souls in Heaven would sing praises and rejoice for all eternity and the souls in Hell would roast and scream and God would never pluck any of them out no matter how many favours they offered. And it would remain that way forever and ever and ever.

That seems really dull and sad to me. Surely something interesting would have to happen during all that time. Another rebellion, perhaps? Perhaps souls in Heaven decide they want to give up paradise so that they could see their loved ones in Hell? That's assuming they still have free will and are not turned into automatons with the memories of their damned relatives erased.

Perhaps the very concept of time itself does not exist beyond this world. You think in straight lines because you live in straight lines, but what if life after life is so different that describing it to a temporal being would be an exercise in futility?

What is time to the unliving?

[I Refute Berkeley Thus]

Melly Kwistmass

Don't you think that would be bloody boring and depressing? An eternity of nothing changing. The souls in Heaven would sing praises and rejoice for all eternity and the souls in Hell would roast and scream and God would never pluck any of them out no matter how many favours they offered. And it would remain that way forever and ever and ever.

That seems really dull and sad to me. Surely something interesting would have to happen during all that time. Another rebellion, perhaps? Perhaps souls in Heaven decide they want to give up paradise so that they could see their loved ones in Hell? That's assuming they still have free will and are not turned into automatons with the memories of their damned relatives erased.

Well, it can't be more boring and depressing than real life that's for sure.