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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/04/2012420105329861814.html

Shifty buddhists, not as nice as they seem aye.

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Discuss: Are the Buddhists in the right here or should they just leave it be?
I don't think that religious buildings have any right to be built anywhere, so I am the wrong person to ask.
Their motivation is, to me, however, "wrong".
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Both as bad as each other.
I'm sure the Muslims new exactly what they were doing when they built they built the mosque, they knew that it was sacred, the sinhalese and the tamils are both ignorant and nationalistic , just look at the LTTE and sinhalese war.

And I know Muslims don't hesitate to blow Buddhist s**t up.

It's both their faults for being stupid.
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I have insufficient background on Sri Lankan law and Buddhist "sacred zones" to really comment on who is "in the right" as far as the competing claims. Fire bombing seems excessive, but the article lacks context beyond saying no one was hurt. We don't know who did it, how bad it was, and what the reasons were.
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I've said this before, I'll say it again - it is not religion that is the cause of problems, but people.

I mean, hell, most religions have a generally positive outlook, and preach ethical living. Those who are unethical are generally looked upon as not being very good followers of their religion.

So let's go with that. Not very good Buddhists. Of course, this risks the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, but I'll hold to this.
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I've said this before, I'll say it again - it is not religion that is the cause of problems, but people.

I mean, hell, most religions have a generally positive outlook, and preach ethical living. Those who are unethical are generally looked upon as not being very good followers of their religion.

So let's go with that. Not very good Buddhists. Of course, this risks the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, but I'll hold to this.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - what about the times that religions exclusively endorse evil behaviour?
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I've said this before, I'll say it again - it is not religion that is the cause of problems, but people.

I mean, hell, most religions have a generally positive outlook, and preach ethical living. Those who are unethical are generally looked upon as not being very good followers of their religion.

So let's go with that. Not very good Buddhists. Of course, this risks the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, but I'll hold to this.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - what about the times that religions exclusively endorse evil behaviour?

Such as?
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I've said this before, I'll say it again - it is not religion that is the cause of problems, but people.

I mean, hell, most religions have a generally positive outlook, and preach ethical living. Those who are unethical are generally looked upon as not being very good followers of their religion.

So let's go with that. Not very good Buddhists. Of course, this risks the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, but I'll hold to this.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - what about the times that religions exclusively endorse evil behaviour?

Such as?


(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

We can see here that the religion is endorsing rampant mass murder.
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I've said this before, I'll say it again - it is not religion that is the cause of problems, but people.

I mean, hell, most religions have a generally positive outlook, and preach ethical living. Those who are unethical are generally looked upon as not being very good followers of their religion.

So let's go with that. Not very good Buddhists. Of course, this risks the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, but I'll hold to this.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - what about the times that religions exclusively endorse evil behaviour?

Such as?


(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

We can see here that the religion is endorsing rampant mass murder.


But they were Apostates and worse, were promoting it in others.

Why is this Evil?
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I've said this before, I'll say it again - it is not religion that is the cause of problems, but people.

I mean, hell, most religions have a generally positive outlook, and preach ethical living. Those who are unethical are generally looked upon as not being very good followers of their religion.

So let's go with that. Not very good Buddhists. Of course, this risks the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, but I'll hold to this.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - what about the times that religions exclusively endorse evil behaviour?

Such as?


(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

We can see here that the religion is endorsing rampant mass murder.

I believe the discussion was about Buddhism though, wasn't it?

You know Buddhism isn't an Abrahamic religion, right?
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I've said this before, I'll say it again - it is not religion that is the cause of problems, but people.

I mean, hell, most religions have a generally positive outlook, and preach ethical living. Those who are unethical are generally looked upon as not being very good followers of their religion.

So let's go with that. Not very good Buddhists. Of course, this risks the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, but I'll hold to this.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - what about the times that religions exclusively endorse evil behaviour?

Such as?


(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

We can see here that the religion is endorsing rampant mass murder.

I believe the discussion was about Buddhism though, wasn't it?

You know Buddhism isn't an Abrahamic religion, right?


You said "religion" not "Buddhism". You know that Buddhism is a relgion, right?
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - what about the times that religions exclusively endorse evil behaviour?

Such as?


(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

We can see here that the religion is endorsing rampant mass murder.

I believe the discussion was about Buddhism though, wasn't it?

You know Buddhism isn't an Abrahamic religion, right?


You said "religion" not "Buddhism". You know that Buddhism is a relgion, right?

And not all religions are Christianity.

Also, might I remind you that the Bible was written by people.
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Such as?


(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."

We can see here that the religion is endorsing rampant mass murder.

I believe the discussion was about Buddhism though, wasn't it?

You know Buddhism isn't an Abrahamic religion, right?


You said "religion" not "Buddhism". You know that Buddhism is a relgion, right?

And not all religions are Christianity.

Also, might I remind you that the Bible was written by people.


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And not all religions are Christianity.

But Christianity is a religion and really should fit into your rule that it's "only people". A rule isn't a rule if there are exceptions.

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Also, might I remind you that the Bible was written by people.

This is the lamest argument I've ever heard.
Religion was created by people. People are, as you say, violent, erratic and negative. So; what makes religion exempt from the attitudes of the creators? As we see; it isn't.
Their teachers may want to emphasize Anitya more in their discourses.

Might I offer, in the spirit of technical speech, that kindness isn't necessarily demanded. Such a thing is merely believed to be helpful for attaining realization. This is my understanding with regard to things such as the precepts, anyway.
So....from what I'm understanding...

Muslims and Hindus build Temples on Buddhist sacred ground and...

Buddhists be pissed and bombin s**t.

One would think that being a faith which tends to reject material goods, they'd reject sacred places as being material.

That's just me being me.

That being said...

at least it's only done on sacred ground and nobody was hurt.
There's building temples on sacred ground and bombing them.
And there's bombing temples because they're temples of another religion.

Bit of a difference really.

That being said....
If someone built a church on Aboriginal sacred ground...
Would some Aboriginals be pissed?
Yout bet.
Would some bomb the place?
They might...

Does that make them right? Nope.
But does that mean that they have a good reason to be pissed?Yep.

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