What is a Wicca?

[Dire Sparkle]

Sanguina-chan

Dire Sparkle

Casting spells things like that.
As it is a craft.

Not every Wiccan sees that you have to practice the craft element that a lot of others do.

Witchcraft is a craft not a religion though many Wiccans and it to their practice of Wicca,

If you get me.

I define witchcraft rather differently. Witchcraft involves spellcraft but is not limited to it, just like magick involves spellwork but is not limited. I think witchcraft is energy work tied to the natural world. Therefore I think all Wiccans would be witches, because they would practice energy work in a context that was tied to the natural world.

After all, not all witches cast spells. I've cast only a handful in my life, and I am a witch. Even if I never cast another spell, I would be a witch, because I still use energies in ways I wouldn't define as spellwork.

Edit: I agree that witchcraft is a craft and not a religion, and that not all witches are Wiccans. I just think that witchcraft is something that is a part of the Wiccan religion.

To you it is but to others its not.
I wouldn't consider myself a witch as I don't practce witchcraft only Wicca.

But it's good to see you see both sides of this.

Most people I have talked to on here seem to say their opinion or what they beleive is LAW...and i don't like that tbh

[Sanguina Cruenta]

So, you define witchcraft solely as spellwork? Fair, I suppose. Witchcraft is one of those words for which everyone has a different meaning, so it's hard to say "I am right and you are wrong". You have to say, "I think this".

For me, you'd be practicing witchcraft as well, because you'd be casting circles and invoking elements and so on. That counts as either "witch" or "magician" wink

[necrokami]

myruna-chan

TriumphantChaos

At it's most traditional, Wicca is secretive, oathbound Neo-Pagan religion based on an amalgamation of old beliefs, though it was created in the 1950s. It's not Satanic, and they're not any more dangerous than any other person.

ooh do you know more? im curious and i want true information
so they are a religion based in nature ?

they are ALL faggots! truth.

[oOGarrettOo]

greenlock

myruna-chan

TriumphantChaos

At it's most traditional, Wicca is secretive, oathbound Neo-Pagan religion based on an amalgamation of old beliefs, though it was created in the 1950s. It's not Satanic, and they're not any more dangerous than any other person.

ooh do you know more? im curious and i want true information
so they are a religion based in nature ?

they are ALL faggots! truth.

Actually, since it's humanly impossible to be either a bundle of twigs, or a cigarrete (if you wish to shorten your term to "f**" wink than I'd have to disagree with you. I don't see many inanimate objects having religion or being able to get up and talk about it for that matter.

[Nitemare Nymphetamine]

Crap.

[myruna-chan]

Sanguina-chan

myruna-chan

Milendil

I guess it depends on which version of Wicca you are talking about. Cause I seem to remember that Trad Wicca is a cult. And that Religion and Cult were very similar, if not the same thing.

ok, now im truly confused

trad wicca is a cult and neo wicca is a religion? totally confused

Not "cult" in a bad way wink there are lots of different implications from the word "cult" so there are always heaps of misunderstandings. According the most technical definition, all religions are cults.

A bad cult will have a charismatic leader, will ask for money, will try to control your life, will manipulate you. Trad Wicca is not a cult according to this sort of definition.

A strictly correct definition of Trad Wicca is that it's a "fertility cult". (While Neo-Wicca is concentrated on nature in general, Trad Wicca is concentrated specifically on fertility.) Cult in this sense is referring to the sort of way things are passed down, I think. It's a secret religion, a mystery religion. That's what I think they're referring to when they describe Trad Wicca as a fertility cult.

Just rest assured that when people use the term in that way, they're not implying that Trad Wicca isn't a religion, and nor are they saying it's a bad thing. ^_^

so even if its a cult doesnt mean is a bad thing?cool!
mmm, so trad wiccan is based in fertility...you mean sex?, i think i prefer neo wicccan then sweatdrop
mmm, why is a secret religion?

[myruna-chan]

Sanguina-chan

myruna-chan

Dire Sparkle

To put it simply.

Not every Witch is a Wiccan

And

Not every Wiccan is a Witch

Depend where your coming from and what you practice

Depend where your coming from and what you practice? why? dont get it anymore sweatdrop

I think Sparkle is talking about how one practices Wicca. From person to person, what they do as a part of their religion changes, in Neo-Wicca. For some people, witchcraft is a large part of their spirituality. For other people, it's barely used at all.

I think all Wiccans are technically witches unless they'd prefer the term "magician", because I think at least being able to cast a ritual circle is an essential part of defining oneself as a Wiccan. You might not do full rituals very often, but I think you have to be able to cast a circle at least, and that is magick.

I think when some people refer to many Wiccans not being witches, they are saying that many Wiccans don't cast "spells". That's true, at least. Many Wiccans don't cast spells. But many witches don't spend much time casting spells either, so I think putting it that way is a bit unhelpful.

ok i get it n_n.mmm cast a circle? whats that? why is magical?
are full rituals taht special? or they are too difficult to perform too often?

[Sanguina Cruenta]

myruna-chan

so even if its a cult doesnt mean is a bad thing?cool!
mmm, so trad wiccan is based in fertility...you mean sex?, i think i prefer neo wicccan then sweatdrop
mmm, why is a secret religion?

Sex, yes, and reproduction. The cycle of life. Sex is considered a very good thing ^_^ That's one of the things I like about Paganism. Sex is celebrated as a pleasurable - and sometimes holy - act, rather than something that one must avoid or only practice in wedlock.

It's a secret religion because Gardner designed it that way. Partially it's because it was developed before the anti-witchcraft laws in the UK were repealed, but I think it's also mostly because Gardner was in a couple of "secret societies" and he just liked that sort of system.

[myruna-chan]

Sanguina-chan

Dire Sparkle

Casting spells things like that.
As it is a craft.

Not every Wiccan sees that you have to practice the craft element that a lot of others do.

Witchcraft is a craft not a religion though many Wiccans and it to their practice of Wicca,

If you get me.

I define witchcraft rather differently. Witchcraft involves spellcraft but is not limited to it, just like magick involves spellwork but is not limited. I think witchcraft is energy work tied to the natural world. Therefore I think all Wiccans would be witches, because they would practice energy work in a context that was tied to the natural world.

After all, not all witches cast spells. I've cast only a handful in my life, and I am a witch. Even if I never cast another spell, I would be a witch, because I still use energies in ways I wouldn't define as spellwork.

Edit: I agree that witchcraft is a craft and not a religion, and that not all witches are Wiccans. I just think that witchcraft is something that is a part of the Wiccan religion.

spellcraft but is not limited to it? how? i mean i dont get it too well about spellcraft, is not the same as witchcraft? why?
mmm, a new question

if witchcraft is not alway related to wiccan, and is not a religion.. everyone can perform it? isnt that dangerous? witchcraft have the same rules?

[myruna-chan]

Dire Sparkle

Sanguina-chan

Dire Sparkle

Casting spells things like that.
As it is a craft.

Not every Wiccan sees that you have to practice the craft element that a lot of others do.

Witchcraft is a craft not a religion though many Wiccans and it to their practice of Wicca,

If you get me.

I define witchcraft rather differently. Witchcraft involves spellcraft but is not limited to it, just like magick involves spellwork but is not limited. I think witchcraft is energy work tied to the natural world. Therefore I think all Wiccans would be witches, because they would practice energy work in a context that was tied to the natural world.

After all, not all witches cast spells. I've cast only a handful in my life, and I am a witch. Even if I never cast another spell, I would be a witch, because I still use energies in ways I wouldn't define as spellwork.

Edit: I agree that witchcraft is a craft and not a religion, and that not all witches are Wiccans. I just think that witchcraft is something that is a part of the Wiccan religion.

To you it is but to others its not.
I wouldn't consider myself a witch as I don't practce witchcraft only Wicca.

But it's good to see you see both sides of this.

Most people I have talked to on here seem to say their opinion or what they beleive is LAW...and i don't like that tbh

don't practce witchcraft only Wicca? how? i mean what do you do that is typical from a witch and not a wiccan?

[myruna-chan]

Sanguina-chan

So, you define witchcraft solely as spellwork? Fair, I suppose. Witchcraft is one of those words for which everyone has a different meaning, so it's hard to say "I am right and you are wrong". You have to say, "I think this".

For me, you'd be practicing witchcraft as well, because you'd be casting circles and invoking elements and so on. That counts as either "witch" or "magician" wink

San-chan, does casting spells and that really works? what is their purposes?

[Sanguina Cruenta]

myruna-chan

ok i get it n_n.mmm cast a circle? whats that? why is magical?
are full rituals taht special? or they are too difficult to perform too often?

Casting a circle is the ritual form I described earlier, where you invoke the watchtowers and so on. It involves channelling energy into a circle, through a finger or a tool like an athame. You need to do one of these for a full Wiccan ritual. If you want to honour the deities or do something, like a small rite, without casting a circle like that, you can. It's not a full ritual, but it works just as well. A full ritual can be time consuming and you need the space to do it in, so it's not always practical.

Lighting a candle and praying can be a form of ritual. Ritual can be said to be "prayer in motion". It's prayer that you enact, sort of.

[myruna-chan]

greenlock

myruna-chan

TriumphantChaos

At it's most traditional, Wicca is secretive, oathbound Neo-Pagan religion based on an amalgamation of old beliefs, though it was created in the 1950s. It's not Satanic, and they're not any more dangerous than any other person.

ooh do you know more? im curious and i want true information
so they are a religion based in nature ?

they are ALL faggots! truth.

you shouldnt be that rude, they believe in what they do, please respect them sweatdrop
i dont mean to be cruel, but if they respect me (im catholic) i can respect them since they truly believe in what they do and they dont hurt anyone, just dont judge the so fast n_n

[myruna-chan]

Nitemare Nymphetamine

Crap.

crap? why? i mean, what did you wanted to say?

[myruna-chan]

Sanguina-chan

myruna-chan

so even if its a cult doesnt mean is a bad thing?cool!
mmm, so trad wiccan is based in fertility...you mean sex?, i think i prefer neo wicccan then sweatdrop
mmm, why is a secret religion?

Sex, yes, and reproduction. The cycle of life. Sex is considered a very good thing ^_^ That's one of the things I like about Paganism. Sex is celebrated as a pleasurable - and sometimes holy - act, rather than something that one must avoid or only practice in wedlock.

It's a secret religion because Gardner designed it that way. Partially it's because it was developed before the anti-witchcraft laws in the UK were repealed, but I think it's also mostly because Gardner was in a couple of "secret societies" and he just liked that sort of system.

avoid or only practice in wedlock.? dont get that n_nu, just to me sex is just for your only one love, sorry if im too old fashioned sweatdrop

Gardner was in a couple of "secret societies"? which ones? why?