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The Crown Court handed down a nine-month suspended sentence to Robul Hoque, who police found to have 400 images of sexualized Japanese schoolgirl cartoon characters on his computer.


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The Crown Court of England and Wales set a precedent a few days ago when it sentenced 39-year-old Robul Hoque to nine months imprisonment for possession of lolicon images, albeit suspended so long as he doesn’t break the law again.


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"Lolicon manga,” which literally means “comics for those with lolita complexes", are animations and comic books that involve drawings of children or child-like creatures in adult situations and relationships.

Usually they are drawn by Japanese artists and published in Japan, where it is perfectly legal to do so.


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The manga comic book images in question were of young girls dressed in Japanese school uniforms engaging in sexual acts. Police seized Hoque’s computer back in 2012 and found nearly 400 such images. Even though none were of real people, apparently the judges deemed it close enough.


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In 2009 an American comic book collector named Christopher Handley pled guilty to violating a similar law that outlaws any art that depicts minors engaging in sex acts and lacks a serious literary, artistic or scientific value.


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However, the flaw with this sort of law is just like beauty itself, it’s all in the eyes of the beholder and can be open to whatever interpretation of the law that will vary with the presiding judge or jury.




TL;DR: A man in britain got caught with schoolgirl hentai ( This is literally so vague considering hentai that it could mean the girls in the images were anywhere from 6 to 18 ) and got in trouble. His punishment was suspended on the condition he didn't break the law again.

Now I have mixed feelings. On one hand, he was let go, which was a good call. On the other hand, wasting tax payer money and resources charging people for crimes with no real victims, which are basically thought crimes, is kind of stupid.

LD, what do you think?
Is it right to consider 2d depictions of fictional people with unrealistic proportions that act nothing like real people as actual, legit CP?

Considering that the stated age of the character doesn't matter ( If I draw a 6 year old and say she's a 2000 year old goddess, it doesn't change what she looks like) where do you draw the line? If a character is drawn that is supposed to be 18, but someone thinks it looks like a 14 year old, who is the authority on whether or not the artist was within their bounds or not?

Does this extend to actual people too? Should some people be banned from working in pornography, or modeling, because they look "too young" ? There are plenty of men and women in their 20s who look like they are in their early teens.

Does this mean pornography featuring age play should be banned? Should teacher-student, parent-child, babysitter, or other related fetishes, where all actors are over 18, pretending to be different ages, be banned?

Related discussion.

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Mods drop the ban hammer.

I honestly don't care what people choose to look at. If I don't like it, I just don't look at it. Easy.
*SIGH* Fer ******** sake, what gets it into someone's head that fictional people need protection under the law. GodDAMMIT Britain.

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If it's lolicon, as in underage girls, then I can see why people with huge collections should be looked into in case they're looking at pictures of actual underage girls too...
I don't see the problem unless it was lolicon.

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I kinda feel like the entire response that brittain had was actually perfectly reasonable. confused the way I see it, what somebody's interests are in fiction can say alot about what their interests are in reality, too. depictions of underage girls having sex, whether it is cartoon or not, being treated as normal really send the message that it's normal for underage girls to be having sex.

now that said, I don't think that it should go as far as banning people from working in the sex industry because they look underage when they are in fact adults, nor do I think that kinks like age-play should be outlawed. but even if they were, who's going to enforce it? that's private bedrooms tuff. unless cops are spying on peoples' sex lives (which would be a violation of the right to privacy, and seriously creapy), they wouldn't know about it.

I have some mixed feelings on the issue, of course. but I think that brittain probably did the right thing.

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The criminal psyche tends to evolve, when people do something like that and it goes unchecked it It progresses toward an extreme, and in people who aren't stable it. Can go all the way to doing the things they seek in fiction or they can just crack and do what it is they are thinking at the time. Psychos don't know right fro
m wrong and if the stupids ties don't make it clear that such things are wrong they'll do them although they might try to do it anyway. Seriously, there are too many unstable nutcases walking free because they haven't done anything yet but are fully capable and unstable enough to do anything whenever. Unfortuneaty we can't sort the psychos from the same and stable so that's why laws like this happen, to set an example of what is exceptae, and what is not.

Edit: and also the whole waifu thing sucks anyway , it promotes objectification of women and enforces gender roles.

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well... I mean in all honesty even if the general consensus became that it was harmless and that it was protected as art, who honestly would want to rally for reform with that particular law? Would anyone in parliament wants to be That guy?.

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If the age someone looks is how you go by whether it's legal or not, than my boyfriend would be in jail. That just wouldn't be fair to people who looked young.
It'd be even stupider if it included fictional characters.

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Lol, Waifus...they should at least try getting real females.
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http://www.tomonews.net/148584696889344


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The Crown Court handed down a nine-month suspended sentence to Robul Hoque, who police found to have 400 images of sexualized Japanese schoolgirl cartoon characters on his computer.


Quote:
The Crown Court of England and Wales set a precedent a few days ago when it sentenced 39-year-old Robul Hoque to nine months imprisonment for possession of lolicon images, albeit suspended so long as he doesn’t break the law again.


Quote:
"Lolicon manga,” which literally means “comics for those with lolita complexes", are animations and comic books that involve drawings of children or child-like creatures in adult situations and relationships.

Usually they are drawn by Japanese artists and published in Japan, where it is perfectly legal to do so.


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The manga comic book images in question were of young girls dressed in Japanese school uniforms engaging in sexual acts. Police seized Hoque’s computer back in 2012 and found nearly 400 such images. Even though none were of real people, apparently the judges deemed it close enough.


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In 2009 an American comic book collector named Christopher Handley pled guilty to violating a similar law that outlaws any art that depicts minors engaging in sex acts and lacks a serious literary, artistic or scientific value.


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However, the flaw with this sort of law is just like beauty itself, it’s all in the eyes of the beholder and can be open to whatever interpretation of the law that will vary with the presiding judge or jury.




TL;DR: A man in britain got caught with schoolgirl hentai ( This is literally so vague considering hentai that it could mean the girls in the images were anywhere from 6 to 18 ) and got in trouble. His punishment was suspended on the condition he didn't break the law again.

Now I have mixed feelings. On one hand, he was let go, which was a good call. On the other hand, wasting tax payer money and resources charging people for crimes with no real victims, which are basically thought crimes, is kind of stupid.

LD, what do you think?
Is it right to consider 2d depictions of fictional people with unrealistic proportions that act nothing like real people as actual, legit CP?

Considering that the stated age of the character doesn't matter ( If I draw a 6 year old and say she's a 2000 year old goddess, it doesn't change what she looks like) where do you draw the line? If a character is drawn that is supposed to be 18, but someone thinks it looks like a 14 year old, who is the authority on whether or not the artist was within their bounds or not?

Does this extend to actual people too? Should some people be banned from working in pornography, or modeling, because they look "too young" ? There are plenty of men and women in their 20s who look like they are in their early teens.

Does this mean pornography featuring age play should be banned? Should teacher-student, parent-child, babysitter, or other related fetishes, where all actors are over 18, pretending to be different ages, be banned?

Related discussion.


He would only have to request for a victim to be produced and any reasonable court would throw the case out.

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I mean, as long as they let him go. Then again, this could lead to undeserved humiliation
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The criminal psyche tends to evolve, when people do something like that and it goes unchecked it It progresses toward an extreme, and in people who aren't stable it. Can go all the way to doing the things they seek in fiction or they can just crack and do what it is they are thinking at the time. Psychos don't know right fro
m wrong and if the stupids ties don't make it clear that such things are wrong they'll do them although they might try to do it anyway. Seriously, there are too many unstable nutcases walking free because they haven't done anything yet but are fully capable and unstable enough to do anything whenever. Unfortuneaty we can't sort the psychos from the same and stable so that's why laws like this happen, to set an example of what is exceptae, and what is not.

Edit: and also the whole waifu thing sucks anyway , it promotes objectification of women and enforces gender roles.


Where in this did it say he was a psycho? Or even a criminal for that matter? They had no reason to do anything to him, as long as it is cartoon porn no real people are hurt by producing it anyway. Lolicon is legal, so even if he was looking at that (as gross as it is) they had no right to do anything to him.

Alright, calm down Tumblerina. Have you ever heard the term "husbando"? It's the male form of waifu, it's basically an imaginary boyfriend/girlfriend. Get your facts straight.

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