Should we learn about sex? [EDUCATION THREAD][UPDATED!]

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ngaurhoth1

RainbowElmo

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RainbowElmo

Toki Bird

RainbowElmo

so, i'm taking a human sexuality class. all we do is talk about why humans have sex, how we have sex, who we have sex with, and so on. it's a brilliant class and extremely interesting, as sex customs are different across the world, and when i say different, i mean different.

but, i'm also at university, so having a sex class isn't such a big deal. i wish there had been a class in high school about sex though, maybe there wouldn't be so many babies.

That's so cool!

What are some interesting different practices?

I can't say names, because my memory is not that good. But there is a culture where it is believed that boys will not develop unless they swallow sperm. So around 8-9 an older male partners with a younger boy so that the boy can swallow sperm (weird, I know). Then that same older male teaches the boy how to properly please a female. At the same time, the females are learning how to please themselves during sex. Females in this culture can and do leave men based on their ability to sexually please them.

In another culture, sex is completely a functional thing. You do it to have a baby. There isn't much romantic at all, hugging, kissing, etc.

Kissing in many cultures is not done at all.

And in some cultures boys have a male partner til they are old enough to get married and after they get married they seek sex from someone else that is not their spouse, but their spouse is the only person they can have a child with.

And I know that there are other cultures out there with even odder beliefs.

Wow that's really interesting.

Reminds me of this one Native American group, I don't remember which, but women are not allowed to orgasm until a certain age. They can have sex, they just can't orgasm.

that's crazy, apparently there are woman who don't know they can orgasm at all.

I'd wageer you'd find this little article interesting; if you haven't read it yet.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1454&dat=19940509&id=r8MsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9hQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6866,3439096
I read about that a while back; I'm pretty sure it wasn't a hoax but I can try and look for a better source if you'd like.

China is a ******** up place...

[klebold]

Dolce Rogue

klebold

Dolce Rogue

klebold

Dolce Rogue

If we treat it as something that's normal and that, let's be honest, is a basic human need, teenagers won't feel as thrilled about it as if they didn't know what's the business about sex.

Nobody "Needs" sex.

It could be considered a human need for some people, so yes, some people do feel it's a human need to have sex.
Ask the ones with high libido and you'll get your answer.

I'd say they have issues, and won't let them anywhere near my little sister or girlfriend, when sex becomes a "need" that person becomes irrational, and doesn't care about affecting others as long as he/she gets their desire fulfilled... kind of like a mass murderer. It's not a "need" because addictions are mental, that's like saying a smoker "needs" a cigarette.

I think you're sort of misunderstanding the way I am talking about sex as a human need.
I'm not talking about it as an addiction.
People who are addicted to sex to the point where it actually affects their lifestyle is something that should be treated, because it's in no way a healthy condition, especially if it's getting to the point where it isn't only affecting them but the ones around them.

When I say it's a basic human need, I'm approaching it from an another point of view that has nothing to do with addictions.

It's like, going to the bathroom. Whether or not people think it's gross to take a s**t or pee is their problem, but that doesn't make it any less of a human need. Your body needs to take away all the things it doesn't need somehow, so you just take a s**t or pee. And that's something that you need to do because your body is asking for it.

Same goes for sex. While it depends on each person's libido [some people don't have any libido at all and that's perfectly fine] some people just feel like they wanna do it because their body is asking for it, and simply because it is a natural reaction of their bodies. It's like some girls that, when having their period, feel more horny than usual, thanks to the hormone carnival they're going through.

Digestion is an involuntary bodily function. Sex, is a performed physical act that one chooses to do. Two completely different things. You ARE talking about sex as an addiction, because there is no default bodily function that requires a human body to have sex. Just because someone is so horny to the point where they think they need it, doesn't mean they need it. And the belief of that, is no excuse to avoid abstinence. Also, sex requires a partner, for someone to NEED to do something that involves another person, causes one to "use" another, and that is the negative affect I'm talking about.

When it's possible to not do something, and have there be no consequence, then that's not a need. Teens aren't going to ******** because they "have" to, so you can teach them to wait, forget about "safe" sex, safety doesn't matter, avoiding it altogether is definitely possible for all humans.

[Dolce Rogue]

klebold

Digestion is an involuntary bodily function. Sex, is a performed physical act that one chooses to do. Two completely different things. You ARE talking about sex as an addiction, because there is no default bodily function that requires a human body to have sex. Just because someone is so horny to the point where they think they need it, doesn't mean they need it. And the belief of that, is no excuse to avoid abstinence. Also, sex requires a partner, for someone to NEED to do something that involves another person, causes one to "use" another, and that is the negative affect I'm talking about.

When it's possible to not do something, and have there be no consequence, then that's not a need. Teens aren't going to ******** because they "have" to, so you can teach them to wait, forget about "safe" sex, safety doesn't matter, avoiding it altogether is definitely possible for all humans.

I don't think teaching abstinence is the way to go.
So far it hasn't worked to a lot of people.
Teenagers still have sex due to peer pressure, curiosity, sex made taboo subject among society and lack of information about different methods to avoid STD's or unwanted pregnancies.

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klebold

When it's possible to not do something, and have there be no consequence, then that's not a need. Teens aren't going to ******** because they "have" to, so you can teach them to wait, forget about "safe" sex, safety doesn't matter, avoiding it altogether is definitely possible for all humans.

Are you advocating celibacy-only teaching?
Sorry I'm late to the game, here.

If you are.... No. Just no.

I have a high libido. I was absolutely miserable, sexually harassed everything and everyone, whenever I was horny, which was pretty much all the time.
Then I found a sexual partner and I got the huge stick out of my a** and became a person that didn't make strangers uncomfortable.

Addiction or not, the body craves it, and if you advocate abstinence-only, teens are either going to break it and have unsafe sex stupidly, or they're going to stay celibate and be miserable.
Cases of kids being totally fine with being asexual are rare.

[Pompeiian]

S T R A I N Y

I was wondering cause if we do learn about it isnt going to make the teens wanna do it?


*Explain:why, or why not.
*Explain:should it be safe sex? why, or why not?

.. How did you come to that conclusion? Sex is part of human nature, regardless of whether or not we are taught about it. Yes, of course it should be safe sex, that's a no-brainer.

[klebold]

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klebold

When it's possible to not do something, and have there be no consequence, then that's not a need. Teens aren't going to ******** because they "have" to, so you can teach them to wait, forget about "safe" sex, safety doesn't matter, avoiding it altogether is definitely possible for all humans.

Are you advocating celibacy-only teaching?
Sorry I'm late to the game, here.

If you are.... No. Just no.

I have a high libido. I was absolutely miserable, sexually harassed everything and everyone, whenever I was horny, which was pretty much all the time.
Then I found a sexual partner and I got the huge stick out of my a** and became a person that didn't make strangers uncomfortable.

Addiction or not, the body craves it, and if you advocate abstinence-only, teens are either going to break it and have unsafe sex stupidly, or they're going to stay celibate and be miserable.
Cases of kids being totally fine with being asexual are rare.

Wrong. You're making it sound like not having sex will drive someone to insanity. That's hilarious. That guy met, that sexual partner, is called a "pervert", and your sex addiction was your own problem. Remember, there was a time you didn't even know sex existed, so it's not a "natural" bodily function, it's an idea that got into your mind, and it was YOU who let it take over. Teaching kids not to be horny little sluts is hardly a bad thing. They only become horny, because of experiencing sex too early, prematurely, too often too soon, I know it happened to my ex, I took her virginity when she was 15, we waited a year until we did it, and because of my skill and size, she was overwhelmed and became addicted, needed to wake me in the middle of the night just to settle her urges, and now she's screwing around casually as a form of punishing her boyfriends when they take breaks when she doesn't get her way. If I hadn't ******** her, I doubt she would be a slut today. Sex is able to be performed professionally and maturely by all humans, you're just making excuses.

[Lievearn]

It's obviously already been said, but teens that don't learn about sex are going to want to have it in the first place. Give them the understanding of human bodies, and the knowledge of how to be safe.
Besides, you just say it's a bad idea towards teens. If a person is in their thirties and never properly learned about sex, chances are they may put themselves in a situation of concern.

[Feminist Barbie]

Learning doesn't make people want to have sex. Hormones make people want to have sex.

There's nothing wrong with sex. Despite what some people are taught, its normal and healthy to have sex. Can we live without it? Well sure. You can be a perfectly healthy and well adjusted human being if you have sex and if you never have sex. The catch is that you have to be fine with the choice you make. You need to be ready for sex before you have it otherwise you regret it. And it needs to be your choice not to have sex because if it's not you can resent it or become repressed.

People will have sex even if they're not taught about it, even when they're taught not to have it. It is part of who we are and hiding it doesn't make it go away. Why not teach our children about safe sex, about people and their right to their own choices? Anarchy doesn't happen because of education and thought but because of ignorance and fear.

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klebold

Wrong. You're making it sound like not having sex will drive someone to insanity. That's hilarious. That guy met, that sexual partner, is called a "pervert", and your sex addiction was your own problem. Remember, there was a time you didn't even know sex existed, so it's not a "natural" bodily function, it's an idea that got into your mind, and it was YOU who let it take over. Teaching kids not to be horny little sluts is hardly a bad thing. They only become horny, because of experiencing sex too early, prematurely, too often too soon, I know it happened to my ex, I took her virginity when she was 15, we waited a year until we did it, and because of my skill and size, she was overwhelmed and became addicted, needed to wake me in the middle of the night just to settle her urges, and now she's screwing around casually as a form of punishing her boyfriends when they take breaks when she doesn't get her way. If I hadn't ******** her, I doubt she would be a slut today. Sex is able to be performed professionally and maturely by all humans, you're just making excuses.

All right, you know what, I'm not going to argue with you on this particular thing anymore.

Changing subjects.
If you teach celibacy only and not actual education, when would be a good time to learn about sex and how would you learn about it? Furthermore, how much education about sex would you teach with your celibacy? And why draw that line?

[Senor Troll v2]

Lievearn

It's obviously already been said, but teens that don't learn about sex are going to want to have it in the first place. Give them the understanding of human bodies, and the knowledge of how to be safe.
Besides, you just say it's a bad idea towards teens. If a person is in their thirties and never properly learned about sex, chances are they may put themselves in a situation of concern.

Yeah, lets say i agree with you on this one....

[Fizzlesticks]

Besides, if sex education isn't taught in schools (though, frankly, it isn't taught adequately or thoroughly at the moment), where is that education meant to come from? Should there be a tertiary diploma in ********? Or do you get a manual with your marriage license??

[Fizzlesticks]

klebold

Remember, there was a time you didn't even know sex existed, so it's not a "natural" bodily function, it's an idea that got into your mind, and it was YOU who let it take over.

And yet there's plenty of recorded evidence that shows that human babies and toddlers masturbate; i.e. touch themselves because it feels nice. Just because they don't attach all the connotations teens and adults do doesn't mean they don't feel the same urges. It all just gets a whole lot more intense when puberty kicks in and our bodies (surprise surprise) prepare themselves for sex.

[chr0n0s wife]

Reminds me of when my friend and i was caught reading about it
we were probably 13 give or take. anyway we got in trouble...
i look back and think, wouldnt you rather have us reading about it
then finding a guy and do it?

i know 13 is too young and i didnt lose it till i was 18 but
sex is normal and i think they should know at a certain age.
or this could happen.......

[Lydia Leventhal]

We need to learn about our bodies, the value placed on virginity be damned! (pun unintended)

And don't give me that religious crap! Just because you learn about it doesn't mean you have to use it!

But if you live in this world with overpopulation, STDs and women who will use the baby-trap on your sorry a**, you better learn the rules about the game.

[Senor Troll v2]

ARE WE REALLY STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS??