Pregnancy Preventing Technology!

[UncleBull]

Hello LD! I'm not a common poster, but there are a few egg heads who frequent this area who I want to call out to help me with this thought string I listened in on/participated a little.

Alright so scene and setting, I was being carried to work by my auntie and a co-worker of hers who work for the animal shelter, they were doing rounds to drop off neutered cats. They're both much older women probably around their 50s.

I forget what triggered it, but my auntie's co-worker starts to rant about how there should be something put into people at birth that prevents them from giving birth and getting pregnant until certain criteria are met. I saw the immediate public backlash in the thought exercise and the enormous infringing on people's rights, but the more I thought about it the more I thought "huh...that would fix a lot of problems...".

The criteria were:

1, have to meet a certain age requirement.
2, have to have been financially stable for x amount of time (Basically meaning that you were holding a job down for a certain amount of time)
3, Have to take and pass parenting classes (thrown in by me)

So uh...the immediate perks that come to mind for me is waaaaay less people having kids that there is no ******** way that they can handle, financially OR psychologically. Which also eases up on the tax payer money going into government aid for women who get paid to basically pop out kids. Which also means that people who don't actually know how to interact with kids popping them out aren't beating and screaming at them to act right, thus reducing the amount of mental cases being released into society.

Those are just some of the upsides that came to mind for me. Thoughts? :V

[xVallx]

I find that it's most commonly the uneducated and unintelligent people who end up procreating. They usually live off of welfare and don't work. Or they will get knocked up and live off of child support and baby bonuses. Anyways, There is no practical scenerio where your idea there would ever possibly work. It's not going to happen.

[UncleBull]

xVallx

I find that it's most commonly the uneducated and unintelligent people who end up procreating. They usually live off of welfare and don't work. Or they will get knocked up and live off of child support and baby bonuses. Anyways, There is no practical scenerio where your idea there would ever possibly work. It's not going to happen.

Oh yeah I totally agree that it's never going to happen, I just thought it was conversation worthy :V. In my small pockets of thinking about it I saw a dark road...with some interesting benefits :V.

But are you saying smart people don't have babies or something? xD

[xChibi Cannibalx]

I agree 100% with the first one. Thered be no issues with teen pregnancy which would be good for everyone

As for the financially stable one, i agree with it maybe 50%. Im on disability because i cannot work even if i tried. So it couldnt be based off of jobs because not everyone can have one. Im also financially stable and living with my boyfriend

I dont agree with the last one at all. I dont want parenting class and dont think i need them. My mom used to run a day care and i helped her out. We both volunteered at a daycare as well. I dont /need/ parenting classes

[xVallx]

Gay African Mammoth

xVallx

I find that it's most commonly the uneducated and unintelligent people who end up procreating. They usually live off of welfare and don't work. Or they will get knocked up and live off of child support and baby bonuses. Anyways, There is no practical scenerio where your idea there would ever possibly work. It's not going to happen.

Oh yeah I totally agree that it's never going to happen, I just thought it was conversation worthy :V. In my small pockets of thinking about it I saw a dark road...with some interesting benefits :V.

But are you saying smart people don't have babies or something? xD

They do, but not in my age range. Young adults should be in college/working before having kids. Ideally people should be established first but accidents do happen. I mean, every young parent I personally know is not smart and not contributing to society.

[RyaZombie]

That would actually be a decent idea, if we had the technology. It would remove the need for birth control as well, I'd imagine. But the chances of anything like this getting OK'd even if it were possible is incredibly slim. People don't like having their right to make stupid mistakes taken away.

[Tute Sweet]

What would you like to see covered in these parenting classes?

[Mari is INACTIVE]

that's a pretty good idea. i definitely agree that people unfit for treating kids should not be legally allowed kids- but a parenting course is probably not the way to go through it. the way society is now the ideal of parenting is ******** up and i have a feeling that a lot of people would be denied kids because they loved them too much, didnt put them in school, didn't yell at them, didn't beat them. i think they just need to make sure that they like kids enough and would love theirs unconditionally, i guess.

[Shark Bacon]

No. It's a right as a living being in earth to procreate. And yeah, stupid ******** people have kids every day. And that sucks. But we will never be able to take away that right.

Even if they magically came up with this technology, it would never pass through congress. And it shouldn't. Have you read "The Giver" ? Taking away the right to choose isn't the right path to take. There a reason we all had to read it in school.

[MiameMiame]

This reminds me an awful lot of the nazi-regime. So it goes without saying; a bad idea.

[spacekitten]

There is already an age limit set in women for when they no longer can have kids. And while I'd love to eliminate teen/unwanted pregnancy, the problem is that, with the financial and education limits, there would be people who can never have kids at all, ever, even if they desperately wanted to. And that bothers me. You don't need a lot of money to raise a kid, yes you do need some kind of income, but lots of people live just fine on non-stable incomes (I'm a self-employed artist, for example. My income is far from stable, since I only get paid when I drum up business, but I make an okay amount, and am capable of working my butt off for a few good months so I can coast for a few more), and on the other end, there are plenty of people who are very financially stable and well-off, and of a responsible age, who should absolutely not reproduce ever.

[MiameMiame]

Wizards of the Toast

MiameMiame

This reminds me an awful lot of the nazi-regime. So it goes without saying; a bad idea.

Eugenics? american and several other countries have had their own as well. there isn't even anything imoral or negative in its own right with being a national socialist either.

Aren't appealing features subjective though? I should read into eugenics some time... in practice it reminds me too much of something you'd do to animals. Aren't humans worth more?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Part of the paper I am writing consists of the ideas of Marx and Engels. Interesting men. It's unfortunate 'Marxism/Marxist' is flung around like some sort of insult.