Fat Acceptance & HAES~Support for the Large and InCharge

[iamthedeadninja]

Kthulah

Ivan Isaacss

Fat prevents diabetes?
Up is down? Black is white? Right is wrong?

I call BS studies with falsified results or ones taken out of context.



Regardless of what your fat blogger friends have said when they should have been at the gym or weight watchers, it doesn't change the fact that most fat people put themselves at risk of developing heath problems and being pig ugly in the eyes of the majority.

Being pig ugly to sheeple is a good thing, in my opinion.

The majority of people need a warning label on hydrochloric acid to tell them not to spill it on their skin even though it's alreadly labelled hydrochloric acid.

When I think of the majority, I think of the millions of dollars lawsuit against McDonalds that led them to have to actually tell people not to spill hot coffee on themselves.

It does not surprise me at all that being "overweight" is actually just being not underfed. This is what reality has been telling us all along, but people have ignored at their own peril.

You and others are free to continue to ignore reality as much as you like. Perhaps you will ignore it so much that it will prevent you from reproducing and reduce your lifespans to under 20. Feel free to sit on your butts doing no more strenuous activity than sticking your noses in the air as much as you like...starving yourselves because you're too lazy to burn more than 1000 calories a day anyway.

A girl can dream...

Edit: Oh snap! It already is leading to dieters' markedly higher rates of infertility.

the mcdonalds case wasnt a result of stupidity on teh lady. it was a smackdown by this guy who had the water way too hot for his coffee. the temperature was around 180-190 when the regulations are for about 160. she had to have skin grafts for the burns which were 3rd degree and the millions got knocked down to about $4500 on appeal.

[Spiralatrix]

I don't think an implied attitude toward slim people is in order; not all of them look at an overweight person and throw corn dogs at them like peanuts while laughing at how "disgusting" the person is. Slim people get called "anorexic bitches" just as much as overweight people get called "disgusting tubs of lard". It's no different.

As for health, my idea of the "healthy" body would mean that the individual would not be "too skinny" or have a lot of excess body fat; they would have a decent amount of muscle and body fat (not a lot to do with weight, because muscle is more dense), a good outlook on life, and high self-esteem- not a false sense of pride.


By the way, I am overweight, and while my immune system is very strong and I am generally optimistic, I know I'm not at my healthiest.

[orange seeds]

I applaud this well-researched topic. and the intended form of discussion.

I'm 5'1", 175 pounds. According to the internet BMI I am obese. Yet I'm the lightest person in my family, only one who clocks in under 200.
One of my best friends, and possibly most attractive women in my life, is 5'7" 350 pounds.

Too many people have a knee-jerk reaction with the word "fat"
I am fat and hot. I have large, well-shaped breasts. My thighs and legs are shapely and soft. I've been told I have an a** gods could be proud of. I honestly think women of my build are epitome of appealing, and I'm rarely attracted to those who lack a nice, soft belly.

Have pride in you figure people.

[Support Team 34]

Personally, I LOOOOVE chubby dudes. Mmmm. They're the only men I find attractive really. However, that doesn't mean I want a fat guy.

Being fat isn't a good thing. I find it disgusting. Fat girls and fat guys are gross. I wouldn't care if being fat cured cancer, all the rolls are just, ugh.

And i have a say in this because I used to be the fat kid. I don't ever want to be fat ever again.

[iamthedeadninja]

i actually prefer to be a tad overweight. im comfy, and im so much happier now than i was about two years ago. i lost about 20lbs off my frame, and yeah i looked great, but i was cold. i couldnt get down past 148. i was trying to get down to 145 for my weight class in wrestling, and if i were to try to get down to 140's i would have dominated almost all of my opponents in my weight class. then last year, i gained back about 20lbs and im so much happier. im warm, and yeah my pants are a lil bit tighter and i get called preggers a couple times, but im happy. my parents are the worst about my weight. they want me to get down to 120. im mostly muscle and currently im about 5'4 and i weigh 175. i look maybe 145-150. i hide it well and im complemented all the time. i have pics if people are interested. ^^

[Ruse Muse]

Ivan Isaacss

Fat prevents diabetes?
Up is down? Black is white? Right is wrong?

I call BS studies with falsified results or ones taken out of context.



Regardless of what your fat blogger friends have said when they should have been at the gym or weight watchers, it doesn't change the fact that most fat people put themselves at risk of developing heath problems and being pig ugly in the eyes of the majority.

...

If you are in space, up can be down, and down can be up.

As light, white is a mixture of all color. On objects, black is a mixture of all colors. Color cannot be seen without light, and light cannot be seen without color. As a result, color is light and light is color. In conclusion, black is white and white is black.

Someone asked you where the store was. You told them it was on the right, yet it was actually on the left. Therefore, right was wrong.

...

Clearly, everything's conditional. Although it is unhealthy to be obese, the "normal" weight in our society is actually underweight and harmful to our health. Anorexic even. So, what society views as "overweight, but not obese" is actually a more healthy and realistic weight for people to be at.

[FyreKou]

For the most part I like my body sure I would love to be 6'00"ft and have legs for days but I like me....

As for the health issues I am 30 120lbs over what people think I should be at 5'6" 100lbs over that my Dr. thinks I should be.... I have never been think I was always the fat kid.... Yes I have RA I have had it sens I was 10 but I was genetically predisposed for it.... (IE Both parents carried the gene) How ever that is my only heath problem.....

My grandmother was 98lbs and 5'2" and she had high blood pressure, diabetic, and high cholesterol. She lived off pork chocolate and cashews..

So figure that one out.....

[Kitten West]

Ivan Isaacss

Kitten West

EladrinStarmist

Sounds like you're one of those naturally thin people. wink Fat IS in the eye of the beholder and you're right; many cultures consider big women beautiful because they're able to have healthy pregnancies and provide for their children. Also, it shows that she's got enough to eat, which reflects well on her family and village/town/whatever. Finally, why should anyone WANT to be 'skinny' if they're fat? I mean, if you're fat and healthy, what's the deal? Love yourself for who you are and what you look like and damn anyone who says otherwise.

It's interesting.. I have been told (several times, by a lot of ignorant people) that I couldn't possibly have healthy babies because I am so skinny. And have small breasts. And this is in the United States. In my experience it seems like this country associates healthy babies and pregnancies with plump women. It makes me wonder why our media (and others) try to tell us that fat women aren't beautiful. Why is it that our culture doesn't associate motherhood with beauty, like most other cultures do...

I got to that in a roundabout way, but you see what I mean

Because in the western world mothers dont have to que seven hours for bread.

I guess I don't understand what you are getting at. Can you elaborate? Just humor my ditziness if you will.

TikiBox

I think it has something to do with stretch marks, a baby pouch and bloatedness. It is horrible that motherhood in itself isn't beautiful unless you don't have those things.

That, and I know quite a few girls that view pregnancy as a fad, like a Gucci bag or something. It's sickening.

Yes, that's a shame. On both counts.
I gather that's why people don't find motherhood beautiful, among other things, but I wonder why they still want us plump during pregnancy even if it isn't acceptable to them otherwise. This is my new question. "They" are confusing and contradictory.

EladrinStarmist

Those people ARE ignorant; you can have a great pregnancy and deliver a beautiful baby no matter what your size; big or small. True, heavier babies over time are healthier ones but that doesn't have much to with how large or small the mother is before the pregnancy; it's all about how well she takes care of herself during. smile

Thank you. I know that now, after having two healthy babies, but it really upset me to hear it before. Now it just makes me irritated when I hear it.

[Dr Pen0r]

EladrinStarmist

My_Suicide_Solution

EladrinStarmist

Kthulah

My_Suicide_Solution

Fat people are gross stare

Whoever bought this moron a computer would have had much more fun if they had just given him the parts and waited while he attempted to assemble it.

...but then we would have one less wanker to laugh at. rofl

Please ignore the trolls. 3nodding

Right, that makes me a troll, b/c i have an opinion......good one

Coming into a FAT ACCEPTANCE thread and saying 'fat people are gross' is obviously trolling.

i'm terrible sorry, but i think you've missed the fact that you're in a DISCUSSION FORUM: EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINIONS IN HERE..
anyways.
if you make a thread about disliking nazis, then of course you'd have to put up with the fact that a nazi might come in and say how much they hate jews.
the same goes for a thread about fat people. no matter how hard you try, people ARE going to speak their mind. you have no right to call someone a troll because they share a different view than you do. NO RIGHT. if you want that s**t, then go to the chatterbox. this is a discussion forum, where all discussions and opinions are welcome.

don't be such a dictator.

[Northawke_rs]

A big round of applauce for this thread. pirate I'm a healthy fat girl and even though I intend to lose some weight for my own health I still plan on being a nice rotund lady. There's nothing wrong with being a little chubby, especially not when considering what's considered a 'healthy' weight nowadays. Sure, I can understand it when people do not find someone with such a body type as us attractive, but at least act normally.

[Pink Desires]

Wow, you don't know how good it feels to read this. I can definitely agree with you and understand. I'm a big girl.. I -was- out of shape and actually unhealthy. But that is actually because I did let myself go. I'm -still- a big girl but I am in shape now and can happily walk 10 miles! And I'm trying to get healthier by the day. And you're right, sitting on your a** every damn day and eating horridly will cause you health problems.. In ANYONE. My entire family are almost near morbidly obese. And not cause of genetics. It's because they actually just stopped.. moving. Some try to diet without really dedicating themselves and don't even realise that it's killing them more. Also when they exercise, they don't stay dedicated. It takes 2 months to gain 30 pounds. It takes a year to lose it! (with proper exercise..) It doesn't go away by effing magic. Not every fat person is unhealthy. mad and that's that!

[Pink Desires]

Dr Pen0r

EladrinStarmist

My_Suicide_Solution

EladrinStarmist

Kthulah

My_Suicide_Solution

Fat people are gross stare

Whoever bought this moron a computer would have had much more fun if they had just given him the parts and waited while he attempted to assemble it.

...but then we would have one less wanker to laugh at. rofl

Please ignore the trolls. 3nodding

Right, that makes me a troll, b/c i have an opinion......good one

Coming into a FAT ACCEPTANCE thread and saying 'fat people are gross' is obviously trolling.

i'm terrible sorry, but i think you've missed the fact that you're in a DISCUSSION FORUM: EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINIONS IN HERE..
anyways.
if you make a thread about disliking nazis, then of course you'd have to put up with the fact that a nazi might come in and say how much they hate jews.
the same goes for a thread about fat people. no matter how hard you try, people ARE going to speak their mind. you have no right to call someone a troll because they share a different view than you do. NO RIGHT. if you want that s**t, then go to the chatterbox. this is a discussion forum, where all discussions and opinions are welcome.

don't be such a dictator.

I'm sorry but, they weren't discussing ANYTHING. They simply said that fat people are gross. Which isn't really even contributing a well argumented discussion! If they want to say dumb things like that, they can go to GD! Now if they had an argument as to WHY they found fat people gross, then I'm sure they'd be more then welcomed!

[LadyEladrin]

*wanders back in after a good night's sleep*

Wow. O_O Thanks so much for all the great posts while I was gone! It's awesome to hear from so many people who love their bodies no matter how much the media has told them to hate it. Good for you! I applaud all of YOU for coming in here and saying what you've said and for being comfortable with your body. Being a size 2 isn't the only way to be healthy and happy and we know that! smile

As for the trolling, that's defined by the ToS as "intentionally interfere with the operation of Gaia Online or any Member's enjoyment of it, or intentionally posting inflammatory statements to get responses."
Coming into a fat acceptance thread and saying "Fat people are gross" is inflammatory and obviously going to get some pretty strong responses. It does nothing to promote discussion of any kind and could quickly degenerate into a flame war. Please don't tell me how to run my thread. Thank you. 3nodding

As for the 'skinny people have it as bad as fat people do' arguement, check this out: A Bill To Prevent Fat People from Eating in Public. This is a real bill, proposed to be passed in Mississippi by July 2008. Obviously, it never will because it's completely unconstitutional but the audacity of the people proposing it is downright scary. Discrimination against fat people is illegal in only one state, and that's Michigan. It's completely legal not to hire someone (or fire someone) based on their weight in every other state, for example.

[Ryuunosuka]

I need to lose some weight, but nothing seems to work.

[LadyEladrin]

Why do you think you need to lose weight?