What to do, what to do.

[Suougibma]

It seems as though I have an internet stalker.

Perhaps some backstory would be of some assistance. I am currently involved in a long distance relationship. My girlfriends ex-tutor has somehow managed to convince himself I am a bad and evil person, without having ever met me, or talking to me for more than roughly 30 minutes. In deciding this, he refuses to listen to logic or even speak with me, and constantly tells my girlfriend things such as "You are a worthless person for liking him." Things of this sort. My girlfriend has some self esteem issues that I've been trying very hard to help her remedy, I feel this person is trying to subvert any attempts I've made in building her confidence. He also stalks my Gaia and searches for any inconsistency in any posts I make, and tries to report it directly to her, even though 95% of the time I am already speaking with her and told her about what I said. In fact, I am certain he will find this and report it to her as well, which is fine. Personally I would simply like an opportunity to actually talk with him and perhaps get to know eachother better, though he does not seem open to this idea seeing as he blocked me on msn and aim before I could even say a word. Perhaps someone could give me some advice on how to proceed from this point further. I do not wish to alter my name and such as I have become quite fond of my screen name, and I would honestly like for him to stop stalking me, or at the least admit to me that he is stalking me and allow this issue to be talked through in a logical and peaceful way.

[Vivalan]

Well if she is aware of the fact that this person is on your tail all the time, then I don't see too much of an issue. You two can simply ignore this person if he becomes that much of a nuisance, or talk it out (assuming he's willing to do so).

[Suougibma]

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Well if she is aware of the fact that this person is on your tail all the time, then I don't see too much of an issue. You two can simply ignore this person if he becomes that much of a nuisance, or talk it out (assuming he's willing to do so).

She has a tendency to trust him because he was a long time friend to her, thus why at first this was an issue, he randomly blocks her after logging in and chewing her out about things I have said, I haven't really posted on gaia as often as I was because of it. I will admit that I am a bit of a troll in many situations, though he seems to think everything I say on the internet to 30 or so people in a thread that I do not know, and will never meet, is obviously how I feel about a particular issue, when in fact I am probably playing devils advocate, or just trying to get people to think about another prospective on an issue. Recently she has stopped listening to him for the most part, which when hes saying such horrible things, how could one blame her? I still feel that hearing that certainly hurts though, and I would also like him to apologize for that. His problem is with me, but he attacks her. Possibly he knows that if he attacked me I would care less because I'm a fairly laid back person, and don't take the words of a person trying to insult me over the internet as anything to be worried about. He claims hes helping her by trying to push her away from me, and to be honest, who am I to say he isn't helping her? It's not his choice though, who she chooses to associate with, and who she chooses not to. He also threatens to call her guardian to tell her what a horrible person I am, and that freaks her out because she doesn't trust that her guardian would believe her words over the ravings of a tutor from several years back. She obviously looked up to him at some point, and I really hate to see a positive role model being flushed away over something so silly. (He really doesn't seem like that bad of a guy.) Though in acting like a 2 year old and refusing to even speak of it, it shows negatively on his character.

[Vivalan]

Suougibma

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Well if she is aware of the fact that this person is on your tail all the time, then I don't see too much of an issue. You two can simply ignore this person if he becomes that much of a nuisance, or talk it out (assuming he's willing to do so).

She has a tendency to trust him because he was a long time friend to her, thus why at first this was an issue, he randomly blocks her after logging in and chewing her out about things I have said, I haven't really posted on gaia as often as I was because of it. I will admit that I am a bit of a troll in many situations, though he seems to think everything I say on the internet to 30 or so people in a thread that I do not know, and will never meet, is obviously how I feel about a particular issue, when in fact I am probably playing devils advocate, or just trying to get people to think about another prospective on an issue. Recently she has stopped listening to him for the most part, which when hes saying such horrible things, how could one blame her? I still feel that hearing that certainly hurts though, and I would also like him to apologize for that. His problem is with me, but he attacks her. Possibly he knows that if he attacked me I would care less because I'm a fairly laid back person, and don't take the words of a person trying to insult me over the internet as anything to be worried about. He claims hes helping her by trying to push her away from me, and to be honest, who am I to say he isn't helping her? It's not his choice though, who she chooses to associate with, and who she chooses not to. He also threatens to call her guardian to tell her what a horrible person I am, and that freaks her out because she doesn't trust that her guardian would believe her words over the ravings of a tutor from several years back. She obviously looked up to him at some point, and I really hate to see a positive role model being flushed away over something so silly. (He really doesn't seem like that bad of a guy.) Though in acting like a 2 year old and refusing to even speak of it, it shows negatively on his character.

Meh. Maybe try asking her if she can properly introduce you two to each other? This guy sounds pretty irritating, but I respect how you are willing to get to know him better because you see the good in him (I don't even think I would have done it). You never know; he might just be overprotective over her.

[Suougibma]

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Suougibma

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Well if she is aware of the fact that this person is on your tail all the time, then I don't see too much of an issue. You two can simply ignore this person if he becomes that much of a nuisance, or talk it out (assuming he's willing to do so).

She has a tendency to trust him because he was a long time friend to her, thus why at first this was an issue, he randomly blocks her after logging in and chewing her out about things I have said, I haven't really posted on gaia as often as I was because of it. I will admit that I am a bit of a troll in many situations, though he seems to think everything I say on the internet to 30 or so people in a thread that I do not know, and will never meet, is obviously how I feel about a particular issue, when in fact I am probably playing devils advocate, or just trying to get people to think about another prospective on an issue. Recently she has stopped listening to him for the most part, which when hes saying such horrible things, how could one blame her? I still feel that hearing that certainly hurts though, and I would also like him to apologize for that. His problem is with me, but he attacks her. Possibly he knows that if he attacked me I would care less because I'm a fairly laid back person, and don't take the words of a person trying to insult me over the internet as anything to be worried about. He claims hes helping her by trying to push her away from me, and to be honest, who am I to say he isn't helping her? It's not his choice though, who she chooses to associate with, and who she chooses not to. He also threatens to call her guardian to tell her what a horrible person I am, and that freaks her out because she doesn't trust that her guardian would believe her words over the ravings of a tutor from several years back. She obviously looked up to him at some point, and I really hate to see a positive role model being flushed away over something so silly. (He really doesn't seem like that bad of a guy.) Though in acting like a 2 year old and refusing to even speak of it, it shows negatively on his character.

Meh. Maybe try asking her if she can properly introduce you two to each other? This guy sounds pretty irritating, but I respect how you are willing to get to know him better because you see the good in him (I don't even think I would have done it). You never know; he might just be overprotective over her.

That is what I was thinking. To go as far as to find me on gaia is proof enough that he is obviously very protective of her, but I would at least like a face to face with him before he goes and judges me as a bad person. Thank you very much for the advice by the way. I will see if she will help me talk to him.

[Vivalan]

Suougibma

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Suougibma

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Well if she is aware of the fact that this person is on your tail all the time, then I don't see too much of an issue. You two can simply ignore this person if he becomes that much of a nuisance, or talk it out (assuming he's willing to do so).

She has a tendency to trust him because he was a long time friend to her, thus why at first this was an issue, he randomly blocks her after logging in and chewing her out about things I have said, I haven't really posted on gaia as often as I was because of it. I will admit that I am a bit of a troll in many situations, though he seems to think everything I say on the internet to 30 or so people in a thread that I do not know, and will never meet, is obviously how I feel about a particular issue, when in fact I am probably playing devils advocate, or just trying to get people to think about another prospective on an issue. Recently she has stopped listening to him for the most part, which when hes saying such horrible things, how could one blame her? I still feel that hearing that certainly hurts though, and I would also like him to apologize for that. His problem is with me, but he attacks her. Possibly he knows that if he attacked me I would care less because I'm a fairly laid back person, and don't take the words of a person trying to insult me over the internet as anything to be worried about. He claims hes helping her by trying to push her away from me, and to be honest, who am I to say he isn't helping her? It's not his choice though, who she chooses to associate with, and who she chooses not to. He also threatens to call her guardian to tell her what a horrible person I am, and that freaks her out because she doesn't trust that her guardian would believe her words over the ravings of a tutor from several years back. She obviously looked up to him at some point, and I really hate to see a positive role model being flushed away over something so silly. (He really doesn't seem like that bad of a guy.) Though in acting like a 2 year old and refusing to even speak of it, it shows negatively on his character.

Meh. Maybe try asking her if she can properly introduce you two to each other? This guy sounds pretty irritating, but I respect how you are willing to get to know him better because you see the good in him (I don't even think I would have done it). You never know; he might just be overprotective over her.

That is what I was thinking. To go as far as to find me on gaia is proof enough that he is obviously very protective of her, but I would at least like a face to face with him before he goes and judges me as a bad person. Thank you very much for the advice by the way. I will see if she will help me talk to him.

No problem. Let me know about what happens anyways. I'm really hoping that he's simply being overprotective and isn't trying to sabatoge your relationship wtih her. neutral

[Suougibma]

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Suougibma

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Suougibma

I c e D r a g o n n e t t

Well if she is aware of the fact that this person is on your tail all the time, then I don't see too much of an issue. You two can simply ignore this person if he becomes that much of a nuisance, or talk it out (assuming he's willing to do so).

She has a tendency to trust him because he was a long time friend to her, thus why at first this was an issue, he randomly blocks her after logging in and chewing her out about things I have said, I haven't really posted on gaia as often as I was because of it. I will admit that I am a bit of a troll in many situations, though he seems to think everything I say on the internet to 30 or so people in a thread that I do not know, and will never meet, is obviously how I feel about a particular issue, when in fact I am probably playing devils advocate, or just trying to get people to think about another prospective on an issue. Recently she has stopped listening to him for the most part, which when hes saying such horrible things, how could one blame her? I still feel that hearing that certainly hurts though, and I would also like him to apologize for that. His problem is with me, but he attacks her. Possibly he knows that if he attacked me I would care less because I'm a fairly laid back person, and don't take the words of a person trying to insult me over the internet as anything to be worried about. He claims hes helping her by trying to push her away from me, and to be honest, who am I to say he isn't helping her? It's not his choice though, who she chooses to associate with, and who she chooses not to. He also threatens to call her guardian to tell her what a horrible person I am, and that freaks her out because she doesn't trust that her guardian would believe her words over the ravings of a tutor from several years back. She obviously looked up to him at some point, and I really hate to see a positive role model being flushed away over something so silly. (He really doesn't seem like that bad of a guy.) Though in acting like a 2 year old and refusing to even speak of it, it shows negatively on his character.

Meh. Maybe try asking her if she can properly introduce you two to each other? This guy sounds pretty irritating, but I respect how you are willing to get to know him better because you see the good in him (I don't even think I would have done it). You never know; he might just be overprotective over her.

That is what I was thinking. To go as far as to find me on gaia is proof enough that he is obviously very protective of her, but I would at least like a face to face with him before he goes and judges me as a bad person. Thank you very much for the advice by the way. I will see if she will help me talk to him.

No problem. Let me know about what happens anyways. I'm really hoping that he's simply being overprotective and isn't trying to sabatoge your relationship wtih her. neutral

I hope so too. I've never really felt the way I feel about her for anyone else. I feel complete even just having met her, let alone having her as a girlfriend. Perhaps if he understood that it may change his point of view. I'll certainly inform you as to what occurrences transgress since she has long gone to sleep and I have no real idea what he is doing at this moment, sleeping as well presumably.

[Suougibma]

Sadly Anthony, you really know nothing of me. You treat me as though I am a book, yet you have only seen the cover. You seem to think that you know me as well, when in reality you have no idea about anything but past girlfriends. You accuse me of brainwashing, what the ********, am I part of the MK-Ultra program? I never told her to care about me, I've never made her do anything. I've helped her come up with a decision based on pros and cons of a situation, but I've never made her do anything. I never told her I was a great person, I tell her on a regular occasion that I am not the greatest person in the world, but who the hell is Anthony? You? In my daily life I am a quiet person with no real intentions to bother anyone, or offend anyone. Judging me by the way I am on the internet is a silly idea. Sure, I find lots of ******** up stuff funny, life in my opinion is a bit of a tragic comedy in play at all hours. (Also, when have you tried to talk to me on msn? If there is some issue on my end I would like to know, I added you, and it just shows you as offline all the time, this tells me you haven't tried.)

You also mention that I don't show her that she was already a good person. This is either a lie, or I am misunderstanding what you mean and you're trying to tell me that saying someone is stupid for not understanding something is showing them how good of a person they are? I've never told her she doesn't have to work at something to get better at it, but I've never told her shes stupid for not understanding, or not wanting to. You say you've known her as long as she can remember, how can I be sure that what she believed wasn't your brainwashing Anthony? What I've brought to the surface isn't anything that wasn't already there. I've asked her to stop talking to you, after about the fifth time she told me that you had said something horrible to her before blocking her and disappearing. People who want to resolve and issue do not block people, only to come back at random and try and talk more "sense." You are a more manipulative person by far, or at the least, you are using your manipulative abilities. She comes to you on the times that I've pushed her away because I felt I wasn't a good enough person for her. You say I do not respect her, when you cannot be further from the truth. Your idea of "respect" is being a catholic nun, not being a person. Perhaps you fail to see, that I treat her as my equal, rather than higher or lower than myself. This is the basis of any relationship, I answer any and all questions she asks me with honesty, and any question I ask I hope she too answers in honesty. You treat her like a child. I can hardly blame you, you have known her since she was a child, but she is no longer as such. She has a brain, you treat her as though she doesn't know what she wants, or has no basis for knowing what she wants, when she seems to have a better grasp on what she would like to do than most people her age have. Perhaps this is your work, but at this point you are still treating her like you are her only true influence in her life and everything you say is the work of God himself incarnate on earth. I don't make her have my point of view, I just explain why I think something. If you cannot do a better job explaining your thoughts, that is your own problem. Telling me I am a negative influence for accepting that she doesn't want to be a Nobel peace prize winning astrophysicist is lunacy. Unlike you, I don't treat her like I hate her if she doesn't want to do something. That does not mean I condone not trying to do something amazing, but I'm fulfilling the role of being there if things do not work out.

You call me a stalker, yet I've not gotten any information about her that she didn't tell me first, Unlike you, whom has stalked me all the way to Gaia. I think you have the roles of a stalker misconstrued. In fact, in reading your reply further, I'm afraid I'm going to have to reverse my statement of you seeming to be an alright person. In fact, you seem like a sociopath who's only ideal in life is to break up any boyfriend she ever has, and I feel you will continue doing so for as long as she speaks with you. Although, as stated before, I'm not going to tell her to do anything, but I am certainly going to keep an eye on anything she tells me you tell her. You say I'm a player who only uses women to raise my ego, when you are still in fact wrong, you also mention me cheating, I would very much like to know at what point I cheated on anyone, seeing as I am as loyal as a puppy-dog as long as you don't kick me in the face. Also, are you my psychiatrist? If you are, I should very much like to know so I can get a second opinion.

It's cute that you think you know my philosophical line of thinking, life is too complicated to stick to even three philosophies. Certainly I have a certain degree of nihilistic thoughts, but that is not my entirety, nor will it ever be. However I find it to be a very entertaining philosophy as it irritates a great many people in a way in which they won't actually do anything, but still be irked a little. In reality, most of my philosophical ideals are hedonistic, thus why I wish, well wished, to be a doctor. I don't care about money, power, or popularity. My ideals involve being good to the public, perhaps at the moment I have not been acting upon that philosophy, but I also believe I should establish myself so as to be of more assistance to others. Once again, Anthony, You have only seen the cover.

You should know better than anyone, having been in an online relationship, that it is very difficult. I am truthful with her on all fronts no matter what it is I've done. If I had gone out, gotten drunk, and had an orgy, I would tell her even knowing the implications. I know I don't know her, and I suggest on a regular basis to see what happens if and when we meet to decide if we really like each-other. Also, I didn't hit on her while she was still with her ex, in fact, I suggested she stay with him, because he was actually there, as opposed to me being way the hell away. Once again, you accuse me of brainwashing, when she states that the only person who has managed to raise her self esteem has been me, that doesn't mean other people haven't tried, just means you guys suck. =/

"You talked about your sexual side with her best female friend, a blatant betrayal of her trust (not to mention an extremely questionable comment on who you are as a person)." You do realize who we are talking about here? The girl who asks me about my boners? Just because you aren't an open person, doesn't mean I'm a bad person for being open. Just because when someone asks me a question, I do not hesitate to answer unless it is sensitive information about other people, does not make me a bad person. You need to live life a little more before you end up rotting in a basement somewhere smelling of musty potato chips.

"By the way, she's cheated on you twice with people in person, though with all parties' clothes on (I guess there's at least a LITTLE bit of her real, deserving self left there)." Ha ha, you may want to word things better, at first I thought you meant her "former deserving self," was someone who cheated all the time. In any case I live so far away that I cannot blame her for wanting physical contact. Though, as it stands, I have spoken to her, and she says that she has turned you down on both occasions, and I am more prone to believe her over you, seeing as you attempted to break her and her ex up on multiple occasions. She said you tried to hold her hand at Applebees, I would hardly call that "cheating." I would call it desperation. =/

Seemingly you think she cries all the time. You are silly. To be honest, the only time she talks to you is on the occasions I lose sight of what is important to me, decide that the only way I can do any good is to curl up in a ball and disconnect with everyone. She doesn't cry all the time, in fact from what I gather I make her quite happy. Attempting to gauge who a person is by what they find funny is also a stupid way to judge them. You notice I laugh about Hitler, not Heinrich Himmler, for you see, Hitler was a politician, and a batshit crazy one at that. Himmler was Satan incarnate. You also know nothing of what I find funny, you know of things I do to piss people off, and that's all. You've obviously fallen for my trolling quite well. I mean, do you even realize what a troll is? Trolling is based on bringing up ******** up things to get a reaction.

Also, I admit that when I said I cared about no one, it was a mistake from a time when I was going through something rather difficult that I will not inform you about. Do you expect anyone to believe someone with a history of lying to boyfriends to try and make them break up? Do you expect anyone to believe you? Do you know I've told these previous girls that I felt strongly about them? No, I told half of them they didn't mean much at all to me, and the feeling was mutual towards me. You haven't lived life Anthony, researching relationships, and being in one are two different things. Do you even know how many girlfriends I've had? Give me a number, please give me a number since you know oh so much about me. After that, tell me how many of them I have had sex with. If you can do that, I'll dump her outright and go live a life of solitude in the mountains.
I no longer believe you to be a positive influence. In fact, I'm not sure if your being intentionally deceptive, or if you just do it compulsively. Perhaps if is the latter you could be forgiven. Good luck in life my friend. I certainly feel this response was a waste of my time, I highly doubt I will change you, and I highly doubt you want to change.

[Lacoviuqe]

I do not need my whole life to be exposed for the internet. Thanks for asking for my consent and giving out personal details.</sarcasm> There were other things you could have said, or you could have private messaged my boyfriend. Good role model behavior, Ant. Perhaps I should do the same thing to you... but I would never stoop to a level as low as yours.

[Suougibma]

You're silly. I've never wanted her to come here. I've never encouraged her coming here, because here sucks quite frankly. I would go there if anything in the near future, and I probably wouldn't stay for more than a few weeks taking in the sights. You treat me like a one trick pony. Ironically, if you were to manage to break us up, she will hate you. If you're willing to have her hate you over little ol' me, that's fine, I just want you to realize that.

You still seem to be stuck on this notion that I manipulate her. Do you honestly, HONESTLY think I would go through the trouble of manipulating someone over the internet who I will not be able to see until at least a year from now? How the hell is that even practical when I go to college and could just trick any random girl there into doing whatever I want? You need to learn to use common sense Anthony. Chances are if I didn't care for, or have plans for, or love her, she wouldn't know anything at all about me. She knows of my insecurities, my fears, parts of my past that I've never spoken of to anyone else. I don't leave myself that vulnerable to anyone. In fact, I would say anything you've dug up about me is a trivial tidbit that I care nothing about. =/

[Miyuki Yoshida]

APolaris82

Very well, I shall address your supposed claims.

I don't need to have talked to you for an extended period of time and listened to you lie about things, the way you do with Ashley, in order to "know who you are." If anything, given that as an outside observer who's not punch-drunk with "love," I'm a better judge of how you've influenced Ashley than either you or herself. All I need is to witness your actions towards Ashley, any correlation between them and your statements towards her, your influence on her, and how her behavior has changed since knowing you. Quite frankly, this "new side" of Ashley that you've brought out is not her at all. I have known her in person for six years. What makes you think you, who have never met her outside of Maplestory, MSN, or a phone and have only seriously talked to her for less than a year, get her personality better than I do, or that you have a clue compared to me regarding what her true personality is? I have never brainwashed Ashley. Ashley had her attitudes about those things on her own long before she even met me and held to them all the way until you started influencing her; they even caused the end of her previous relationship. All I've ever done is encourage her to be true to them, something you yourself have consistently undermined by fooling her into believing that the frankly shallow, slutty behavior you've encouraged from her is her "real" self. Tell me, if she was really into being casual about sexual things, why'd she dump Liam for trying to treat her that way, and barely let him do anything when she was, at the time, serious about being in love with him? If the "new side of her" that you'd brought out was her real self, she would have discovered that during her relationship with Liam, when I had barely any sway over her and indeed barely even talked to her about it. In fact, as I recall we weren't even talking for a good half of that relationship at all.

"Pros" and "cons" of a situation. I know how your type works, Travis. You're very transparent to anyone but the person you're manipulating. You tell her that you're giving her the "pros" and "cons" of a situation but in reality you heavily weight them based on what you want her to believe and give very biased descriptions of each. You basically use emotional appeal to nudge her towards the conclusion you want her to reach, while telling her you're talking about things impartially so she'll believe it was her own conclusion.

Maybe Ashley thinks that this "new side" of her that you've brought out is self-esteem. But as an outside observer who knows her in person maybe better than anybody does, it's not. It's not self-esteem or confidence or whatever you've duped her into believing it is. All it is, is a total destruction of her self-respect and a sense of shamelessness that lowers her inhibitions about doing things she's never favored.

Yes, I've been in an online relationship. Two, in fact. That's how I know that people like you cannot be trusted to just tell the truth about themselves, just because they say they're telling the truth. Maybe Ashley believes that just because you say you tell the truth about things that means you are, but I'm not that gullible. I can say, having been in them, that I am not expecting much of you by expecting you to actually respect her original feelings towards sexual things rather than encouraging her to give in to them with someone she hardly knows, if at all. That doesn't take a saint or a nun. I managed it for over 2 years with neither party cheating and to be honest I've had at least five male friends as well who have managed it, as well as two female friends whose boyfriends have managed it. It's not that being a "nun" or "saint" in your view is unrealistic; it's just that you are not nearly good enough. I'm not encouraging her to be a Nobel Prize winner; I'm encouraging her to be something other than a chick who lets some guy toy with her.

You think you know how much she cries or how happy she is? Please, dude, you've never even MET her let alone spent time with her in person. I think I know that whole side of her just a little better than you do. Yeah, maybe she feels happy when she talks to you, but fleeting and temporary happiness =/= true happiness. In the end we both know you have no good intentions towards her and the only reason she feels "happy" with you is because you've manipulated her into believing shamelessness and giving up inhibitions constitutes a "good thing" just because it feels good, and because you've given her the false impression that you really care for her, understand her, love her, or have any plans for a future with her. I can't say it must have been much of a challenge though; with her mostly negligent grandmother, and the fact that you picked her up while she was out of a relationship and emotionally vulnerable, she was a prime candidate for developing Cinderella Syndrome.

Your "talk" with Helaina had nothing to do with being "open-minded" and everything to do with having no real respect for Ashley. Your opinion of "open-mindedness" is the usual for 90% of people, that is to say, a sense of total shamelessness and encouraging terribly self-serving behavior that in the end will never satisfy and what is ultimately closed-mindedness towards the idea that

I have never tried anything with Ashley, and never would seeing as it would threaten my future. You claim to have so much common sense, so use it. On the other hand, perhaps you know the name "Jewdy."

You can rest assured that now, I WILL for her own good be telling her guardians about who you really are and what the nature of your relationship really is and has been, and what you have done. In other words, I'm going to do what I should have done earlier this year when her grandmother asked me and I lied to her in order to protect you (definitely not my proudest moment). I figure it's their right to have all the information anyway, seeing as they'd be possibly sending the person they've been charged with taking care of to go see someone they know virtually nothing about into a relationship they know nothing about. They should really have the info before coming to a decision about that sort of thing.

Sorry but I shouldn't budge in and I didn't read everything you typed (Very sorry!) but why would you do something to her that would make her upset but you love her and care for her? If she's happy that means you should be happy too! If she truly loves this guy why must you break them apart. Sometimes when you care about someone and you see them growing up sometimes you need to let them find their own path but they could go to the wrong direction that's when you can guide them back.I find that they should be together and you shouldn't break them apart. Do you want them to be happy?

[Suougibma]

Grats.