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I would get an abortion. If you can't even afford to feed yourself now, how can you eat right and get prenatal care?
 
     
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Your situation is what I believe should end in an abortion, coming from a Catholic that is a big deal. You should not have to deal with the consequences for the rest of your life, raising a child that was spawned forcefully. Just do it if your post-contraceptive doesn't work. ):
     
First of all: I'm so sorry. I hope you're getting the help you need to deal with such a trauma.

Personally, I would abort. Think about it: you expel thousands of would-be babies every month. There's no shame in waiting until you're ready to have a child.
 
     
 
I'm sorry this happened to you. Just give it time and hopefully things will get easier. 3nodding


As for the baby:

If it turns out that you are pregnant don't forget that you have options. You can keep the baby, get an abortion or put the baby up for adoption. Don't let anyone such as family or friends tell you what to do. They aren't the ones carrying a baby... you are (supposedly if the pill doesn't help you).


If I was in your situation then yes... I would most likely consider either abortion or adoption. I won't let anyone tell me what is right and what is wrong in that situation, because at the end of the day it's my choice. Just remember that the same goes for you... at the end of the day it's your choice.


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In whichever case. I'm lesbian and I'd never actively choose to have intercourse with a male even less unprotected such. But it's happened against my will. I am 22 years old and I can barely feed myself because of my economical status.

I'm currently on a postcoital contraceptive which is making me slightly dizzy and sick, but with a hopeful 85% chance of avoiding inplantation I'm keeping my fingers crossed.


Sorry, Tori, just a little confused about something. What were you doing on birth control if you weren't planning on having heterosexual intercourse?

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Would you, if you were in my situation have an abortion if the postcoital contraceptive didn't work?

It would be easy for me to say, "Keep the baby, give it up for adoption." Even easier for me to say, "Abort the child."

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If not, would you rather let the child starve to death once born since I can't support it?


That's a bit of an exaggeration there, hon. Sweden's welfare program is, in my opinion, extremely giving. The medical expenses are nearly free ($70-$100 for an approximate stay of 2-3 days). If you happen to lose your job due to maternity leave, Sweden's unemployment program "A-kassa" would pay you about 80% of your pay. (I probably spelled that wrong. >_< ) And from what I've heard from my other loverly Swedish friends, it's damn near impossible to get fired in Sweden....They'd have to have a damn good reason that could stand up against the kick-a** unions you guys have there. A monthly check which would cover all of your expenses plus food IF you have a child and rent is added on TOP of those expenses. Almost sounds more beneficial to actually -have- a child in Sweden. >_<

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Would you also have me, a blatant lesbian raise a child alone?

Why not? Because you're a lesbian? >_> Or because you'd be a single mom? >_>
Whichever you may have meant, neither "title" would/could prevent you from being capable of raising a child.



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Adoption is not an option for me. First of all adoption rules in sweden are pretty weird and I don't want to carry the offspring of someone I hate dearly. I have a girlfriend who would definitely frow to hate both me and whatever would be in my stomach if I kept it. It just doesn't work that way. I also don't want to put a life into this world without certainty of it being loved and cared for. And trust me, that's not always the case for adopted children. I will have kids in the future but it has to be an active choice for me to carry it. This is how I put it to my girlfriend when we discussed it. "If I can't afford an adoption I'll make sure to get hit by a car so the little ******** in my stomach falls out". I really hate whatever is in there. It makes me impure. Stained. I've saved myself for my girlfriend, and then this happens.

And for whoever would even concider using abortion as birthcontrol: you must be mad. Medical abortion makes you bleed for up to two months. It's not exactly...worth it if it's purely for birth control.


Adoption rules in Sweden are pretty much custom-designed to protect and benefit the child in question. -shrugs- I'm not too sure what's so weird about that. (Yeah, I read them. All of them. >_< wink Their laws are so outstanding that the country has the -highest- international adoption rates because of them.

Impure? Stained? No, Tori. You're -still- pure, unblemished. I'm sure Phynnie sees it the same way? If I know anything about her, I can pretty much guarantee that she's seething mad, frothing at the mouth practically, but she still sees you the same way. crying

>_> Don't go getting hit by a car. >_>

Anyway, I'm around if you need someone to blow steam at or if you need a shoulder or....just whatever....I'm around.

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That is absolutely horrible...I am so sorry. sad

I am also pro-life.

I totally agree with the Serafina's post--here's the way I look at it:

You cannot know whether the possible-fetus will be happy or not in life. Thus, having an abortion if the contraceptive fails runs the risk of ending an otherwise good life. You won't be able to undo what's been done, but you can make the right decision and be all the stronger and more honorable for carrying him/her to term, regardless of whether you keep or give him/her up for adoption.

(I'm not trying to sound preachy, of course--just want to illustrate my point of view)

Gosh...gosh. I hope everything turns out all right--it appears you at least have a really good friend to rely on. Please PM me if I can be of any assistance...

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USA has lotsa strict rules about abortion i heard, but blah blah blah.
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Did the baby rape you? ....is that a 'No'? Why does the baby have to pay for what some shitbag did? Abortion is wrong and it's murder. You may not want it or you can't affort it, BUT someone who can't have a baby would love and care for it. I am Pro-Life because I'm againt murder. They baby will never have a chance to live because of what some rapist did? How does that work? I'm sorry, but I just don't understand how ANYONE can be pro-choice. IT'S NOT YOUR BODY! It's the baby's body. It's the baby's body that you're ripping out and cutting into pieces or burning. It's the baby's life you're taking away before it even had a chance to see the world.
     
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Did the baby rape you? ....is that a 'No'? Why does the baby have to pay for what some shitbag did? Abortion is wrong and it's murder. You may not want it or you can't affort it, BUT someone who can't have a baby would love and care for it. I am Pro-Life because I'm againt murder. They baby will never have a chance to live because of what some rapist did? How does that work? I'm sorry, but I just don't understand how ANYONE can be pro-choice. IT'S NOT YOUR BODY! It's the baby's body. It's the baby's body that you're ripping out and cutting into pieces or burning. It's the baby's life you're taking away before it even had a chance to see the world.

Have you ever been raped?
 
     
 
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Did the baby rape you? ....is that a 'No'? Why does the baby have to pay for what some shitbag did? Abortion is wrong and it's murder. You may not want it or you can't affort it, BUT someone who can't have a baby would love and care for it. I am Pro-Life because I'm againt murder. They baby will never have a chance to live because of what some rapist did? How does that work? I'm sorry, but I just don't understand how ANYONE can be pro-choice. IT'S NOT YOUR BODY! It's the baby's body. It's the baby's body that you're ripping out and cutting into pieces or burning. It's the baby's life you're taking away before it even had a chance to see the world.

Have you ever been raped?
Nope. Does rape justify murder? Nope. You're going to say "Then you don't know what if feels like..blah blah blah." Save it, really. I'm not going to be Pro-Choice because I don't know what it's like to be raped. If I ever got raped, I sure as hell wouldn't kill the baby.
     





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I personally believe that a child should be valued regardless of the situation of its creation. He/she deserves a chance at life to become a better person than its father and hopefully make a positive influence upon the world. You wouldn't have to raise the child for this to happen. There are adoptive families out there.

If I were in your situation I would keep the child. If I felt I couldn't live with a child created from rape, then I would give him or her to a good and loving home. I would never kill him/her. To me a child is a child from the moment of conception.
 
     
 
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Did the baby rape you? ....is that a 'No'? Why does the baby have to pay for what some shitbag did? Abortion is wrong and it's murder. You may not want it or you can't affort it, BUT someone who can't have a baby would love and care for it. I am Pro-Life because I'm againt murder. They baby will never have a chance to live because of what some rapist did? How does that work? I'm sorry, but I just don't understand how ANYONE can be pro-choice. IT'S NOT YOUR BODY! It's the baby's body. It's the baby's body that you're ripping out and cutting into pieces or burning. It's the baby's life you're taking away before it even had a chance to see the world.

Have you ever been raped?
Nope. Does rape justify murder? Nope. You're going to say "Then you don't know what if feels like..blah blah blah." Save it, really. I'm not going to be Pro-Choice because I don't know what it's like to be raped. If I ever got raped, I sure as hell wouldn't kill the baby.

But you don't know. Until your raped and can honestly say you could live through 9 months of daily reminder you can't say. I used to be pro-life but then I went through just that and nearly killed myself. I know that if I was pregnant I would have committed suicide if I couldn't abort. you can act all holier than though all you want but until you go through that or until you are told you are tubal and there is an 85% chance you will die shut your hole because you know nothing.
     
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Did the baby rape you? ....is that a 'No'? Why does the baby have to pay for what some shitbag did? Abortion is wrong and it's murder. You may not want it or you can't affort it, BUT someone who can't have a baby would love and care for it. I am Pro-Life because I'm againt murder. They baby will never have a chance to live because of what some rapist did? How does that work? I'm sorry, but I just don't understand how ANYONE can be pro-choice. IT'S NOT YOUR BODY! It's the baby's body. It's the baby's body that you're ripping out and cutting into pieces or burning. It's the baby's life you're taking away before it even had a chance to see the world.

Have you ever been raped?
Nope. Does rape justify murder? Nope. You're going to say "Then you don't know what if feels like..blah blah blah." Save it, really. I'm not going to be Pro-Choice because I don't know what it's like to be raped. If I ever got raped, I sure as hell wouldn't kill the baby.

But you don't know. Until your raped and can honestly say you could live through 9 months of daily reminder you can't say. I used to be pro-life but then I went through just that and nearly killed myself. I know that if I was pregnant I would have committed suicide if I couldn't abort. you can act all holier than though all you want but until you go through that or until you are told you are tubal and there is an 85% chance you will die shut your hole because you know nothing.


I find it funny that you both are arguing with the Agree-With-Me-Or-You're-Wrong attitude.
 
     


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Abortions are allowed for any reason, whether others think it's "responsible" or not. Only you can decide what is responsible.

Objectively, a fetus is not a person, it does not have personhood. Technically newborns do not have personhood either but euthanasia of them is too controversial.
     
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i think you should put the child up ofr adoption. unless you really dont want to go through the pregnancy and child birth. (which after what youve been through i wouldn't blame you.)
in that case abort.
 
     
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