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Personally I have nothing wrong with ***** as long as the sexual act takes place by two consenting parties. I personally believe that to truly know and understand what you are about to do you should be at least thirteen to be considered a consenting party. That being said, I know a couple people who lost their virginity at around twelve years old to people in their twenties, and they are perfectly fine with that. So I guess its really a matter of perspective.

I have to disagree with you on this. They may consent to whatever it is they're doing, but that doesn't mean they fully realize what it is they're doing. And the older person should know better than to assume that a 12-year old fully understands the risks of sex.
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I have a child, and children do not ask for this. Yet, people look at pornographic pictures of them. If I had a friend that did that, I would leave him in the past where he belongs. He may have not taken the pictures, but he was certainly taking advantage of children by looking at them.

I plan on leaving him in the past, I just feel like I'm not..as disgusted I should be? I wouldn't say because this is personal, but its kind of close to home since I know the guy personally. But I fully understand what he did is nowhere close to right.

TheCadaverKid
i could never stay friends with someone who has done that.
even if they were a close friend i would never talk to them again and they could burn in hell.

me and my sister ware adopted because our birth father was a ***** so i have very very strong feelings toward this sort of thing though.

I'm sorry this happened to you, but I'm glad you were able to get away from that.
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I have a child, and children do not ask for this. Yet, people look at pornographic pictures of them. If I had a friend that did that, I would leave him in the past where he belongs. He may have not taken the pictures, but he was certainly taking advantage of children by looking at them.

I plan on leaving him in the past, I just feel like I'm not..as disgusted I should be? I wouldn't say because this is personal, but its kind of close to home since I know the guy personally. But I fully understand what he did is nowhere close to right.

TheCadaverKid
i could never stay friends with someone who has done that.
even if they were a close friend i would never talk to them again and they could burn in hell.

me and my sister ware adopted because our birth father was a ***** so i have very very strong feelings toward this sort of thing though.

I'm sorry this happened to you, but I'm glad you were able to get away from that.


And, there is nothing wrong with that. He use to be a friend, so you don't see this guy as a ***** but as that person you were friends with. The thing is that he is both.
Songo_chan
This girl was 11... what is wrong sexual interactions with a child? They have no idea what the heck your doing. Its considered rape because they dont know enough about what is happening to consent. Even if the person says yes they dont understand what they are consenting to, and the adult predator understands this and choses to have sexaul interactions with them anyway. Thus they are taking advantage of the younger person.

A 13 year old with some 20 year old? Have you ever talked to someone 7 years younger then you? You understand how imature they are in comparision and how easily it would be to manipulate them and lie to them? You can say "Oh, your so amazing I love you. I'm a super awesome mature older person." and not actually feel that connection.

As a person who has had a good childhood friend sexually violate me, I'd value the past memories and condem him in the present.
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I honestly have to disagree with you here on this one. The age of people becoming sexually active is younger and younger, to the point that Age of Consent Laws are basically totally and completely void. I have known and read MANY cases of children as young as 8-9 purposely and knowingly having sexual acts with other kids their age. For a short time I worked at a "half way house" type place for children to young adults and the sort of things I've seen younger children being capable of are just mind blowing. Many people like to settle in their little bubble and believe that a younger person is not capable or able to understand the concept and idea of sex or sexual acts and therefore they are all victims. They are -not-. I dealt with a girl once that at the time was only 14. She had had a child at the age of 12 and I assumed that it was due to a case of rape or something. I felt bad for her and tried to be there and be nice to her. Turns out I was wrong. She had been willingly having sexual relations with people since she was 9 years old, both of her age and older. She ended up pregnant at 11 and a mother at 12 by -her- own devices.

Not to mention that the difference in people's age becomes less taboo as they get older. I am 5 years my fiance's senior and we mesh perfectly. Not that far off from the 7 years that you dictated. He is in no sense immature. In fact, in a lot of cases, he has more maturity then I do. My grandparents were 9 years apart in age and they were married until they day they died, both in their 80's. When a person is younger it seems more taboo because the age difference tends to place one in the "youth" category, but I find it blissfully unfair to say that a difference in years is the make or break in maturity.

Suffice to say in current generations, sex is an idea and a subject that is no longer taboo or hidden from a child until they are older. It can be a very scary thought, as when I was younger and 11 sex was not a subject that one would think of or come by. But today it is. Its all over the media, television, the internet. It is very easily accessible to younger people, and as such they can learn about it, what it is, how it works. Hell, take Gaia for example. How many "sex threads" do you see on this site on a daily basis? And how many younger users are there that are able to see this, read about it, learn about it, -understand- it? To simply say that age denotes understanding is just no longer true.

Now, is that to say that I think what happened is okay? That I think this particular girl was "asking" for it and that she shouldn't get concern because she knew what it was? Not at all. I don't personally know the situation that went on so I don't know if this was some innocent girl that was taken advantage of or a girl like the one I knew from the halfway house that sought out those types of relationships at that age. Suffice to say that no one probably does except those directly involved. If I were her mother, I'd be torn apart too.

I don't condone ***** and I don't act upon it myself. I actually get rather a kick out of people that scream that its disgusting but then move around saying how much they love a certain anime character and they "want them". Mainly because the average dictated age of an anime character is 12-16 years old. I'm not saying what the guy did is right or even okay. What I'm saying here is simply this: Children are no longer as innocent as they were in the older person's generation and shouldn't be given the treatment of "They don't understand it!", because sadly enough in the current generations, they understand it completely.

I'm not much for the idea of statutory rape. I think that rape should be rape. If a younger person wants sex, seeks out sex, cajoles or even lies to someone older in order to get it, that person should not be punished because people blindly fight for the "innocence of youth" when it was obvious that it was not there. But if an older person actually takes a younger person against their will, then its rape, plain and simple.

To the OP: You didn't know him at the time these acts were committed, and you are only thinking of him as your friend from back in highschool. There is nothing wrong with that. You can still think of him as a friend because he was. Does that mean you have to accept what he did? Of course not! Hold on to your good memories of him.



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This girl was 11... what is wrong sexual interactions with a child? They have no idea what the heck your doing. Its considered rape because they dont know enough about what is happening to consent. Even if the person says yes they dont understand what they are consenting to, and the adult predator understands this and choses to have sexaul interactions with them anyway. Thus they are taking advantage of the younger person.

A 13 year old with some 20 year old? Have you ever talked to someone 7 years younger then you? You understand how imature they are in comparision and how easily it would be to manipulate them and lie to them? You can say "Oh, your so amazing I love you. I'm a super awesome mature older person." and not actually feel that connection.

As a person who has had a good childhood friend sexually violate me, I'd value the past memories and condem him in the present.
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I honestly have to disagree with you here on this one. The age of people becoming sexually active is younger and younger, to the point that Age of Consent Laws are basically totally and completely void. I have known and read MANY cases of children as young as 8-9 purposely and knowingly having sexual acts with other kids their age. For a short time I worked at a "half way house" type place for children to young adults and the sort of things I've seen younger children being capable of are just mind blowing. Many people like to settle in their little bubble and believe that a younger person is not capable or able to understand the concept and idea of sex or sexual acts and therefore they are all victims. They are -not-. I dealt with a girl once that at the time was only 14. She had had a child at the age of 12 and I assumed that it was due to a case of rape or something. I felt bad for her and tried to be there and be nice to her. Turns out I was wrong. She had been willingly having sexual relations with people since she was 9 years old, both of her age and older. She ended up pregnant at 11 and a mother at 12 by -her- own devices.

Not to mention that the difference in people's age becomes less taboo as they get older. I am 5 years my fiance's senior and we mesh perfectly. Not that far off from the 7 years that you dictated. He is in no sense immature. In fact, in a lot of cases, he has more maturity then I do. My grandparents were 9 years apart in age and they were married until they day they died, both in their 80's. When a person is younger it seems more taboo because the age difference tends to place one in the "youth" category, but I find it blissfully unfair to say that a difference in years is the make or break in maturity.

Suffice to say in current generations, sex is an idea and a subject that is no longer taboo or hidden from a child until they are older. It can be a very scary thought, as when I was younger and 11 sex was not a subject that one would think of or come by. But today it is. Its all over the media, television, the internet. It is very easily accessible to younger people, and as such they can learn about it, what it is, how it works. Hell, take Gaia for example. How many "sex threads" do you see on this site on a daily basis? And how many younger users are there that are able to see this, read about it, learn about it, -understand- it? To simply say that age denotes understanding is just no longer true.

Now, is that to say that I think what happened is okay? That I think this particular girl was "asking" for it and that she shouldn't get concern because she knew what it was? Not at all. I don't personally know the situation that went on so I don't know if this was some innocent girl that was taken advantage of or a girl like the one I knew from the halfway house that sought out those types of relationships at that age. Suffice to say that no one probably does except those directly involved. If I were her mother, I'd be torn apart too.

I don't condone ***** and I don't act upon it myself. I actually get rather a kick out of people that scream that its disgusting but then move around saying how much they love a certain anime character and they "want them". Mainly because the average dictated age of an anime character is 12-16 years old. I'm not saying what the guy did is right or even okay. What I'm saying here is simply this: Children are no longer as innocent as they were in the older person's generation and shouldn't be given the treatment of "They don't understand it!", because sadly enough in the current generations, they understand it completely.

I'm not much for the idea of statutory rape. I think that rape should be rape. If a younger person wants sex, seeks out sex, cajoles or even lies to someone older in order to get it, that person should not be punished because people blindly fight for the "innocence of youth" when it was obvious that it was not there. But if an older person actually takes a younger person against their will, then its rape, plain and simple.

To the OP: You didn't know him at the time these acts were committed, and you are only thinking of him as your friend from back in highschool. There is nothing wrong with that. You can still think of him as a friend because he was. Does that mean you have to accept what he did? Of course not! Hold on to your good memories of him.



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Age is less noted with time, when people are adults and maturity gaps due to age are no longer around. A 7 year gap with a 13 yr old and a 20 yr old is different, there is a HUGE maturity gap, think about how much you matured in that amount of time. I had a friend who was 15 and her 35 yr old moms boyfriend desided that he liked her more. So they had a sexual/romantic relationship, and as she got older she relized, "wow, this guy is a child rapist, I was way too young to relise what was going on, even though I cosented to it at the time. He is a really creepy manipulative guy." when she was younger she didnt understand that, but as she got older , matured, and could conprehend truely what was going on she broke it off, because she knew he had only used her. Keep in mind that she knew what sex was, but it was easy enough for him to manipulate her into it since she was young and naive. She thought she knew who he was, when in reality she didnt, she didnt understand that he was only lying to her. When you are young its hard to see adults on an adult level for who they truely are. It has nothing to do with your idea of child sexless innocence. The people who are older who have sex with children are sick. This also happened to me where an older guy took advantage of how young I was. I knew what sex was, and I knew the consequences of doing it. I however, did not know who he truely was. I hold to it being a big deal. If a young person trust this older figure and does sexual stuff with him/her when they are only manipulating them, is it wrong? I'd say yes. and that they should be held acountable for doing so.
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This girl was 11... what is wrong sexual interactions with a child? They have no idea what the heck your doing. Its considered rape because they dont know enough about what is happening to consent. Even if the person says yes they dont understand what they are consenting to, and the adult predator understands this and choses to have sexaul interactions with them anyway. Thus they are taking advantage of the younger person.

A 13 year old with some 20 year old? Have you ever talked to someone 7 years younger then you? You understand how imature they are in comparision and how easily it would be to manipulate them and lie to them? You can say "Oh, your so amazing I love you. I'm a super awesome mature older person." and not actually feel that connection.

As a person who has had a good childhood friend sexually violate me, I'd value the past memories and condem him in the present.
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I honestly have to disagree with you here on this one. The age of people becoming sexually active is younger and younger, to the point that Age of Consent Laws are basically totally and completely void. I have known and read MANY cases of children as young as 8-9 purposely and knowingly having sexual acts with other kids their age. For a short time I worked at a "half way house" type place for children to young adults and the sort of things I've seen younger children being capable of are just mind blowing. Many people like to settle in their little bubble and believe that a younger person is not capable or able to understand the concept and idea of sex or sexual acts and therefore they are all victims. They are -not-. I dealt with a girl once that at the time was only 14. She had had a child at the age of 12 and I assumed that it was due to a case of rape or something. I felt bad for her and tried to be there and be nice to her. Turns out I was wrong. She had been willingly having sexual relations with people since she was 9 years old, both of her age and older. She ended up pregnant at 11 and a mother at 12 by -her- own devices.

Not to mention that the difference in people's age becomes less taboo as they get older. I am 5 years my fiance's senior and we mesh perfectly. Not that far off from the 7 years that you dictated. He is in no sense immature. In fact, in a lot of cases, he has more maturity then I do. My grandparents were 9 years apart in age and they were married until they day they died, both in their 80's. When a person is younger it seems more taboo because the age difference tends to place one in the "youth" category, but I find it blissfully unfair to say that a difference in years is the make or break in maturity.

Suffice to say in current generations, sex is an idea and a subject that is no longer taboo or hidden from a child until they are older. It can be a very scary thought, as when I was younger and 11 sex was not a subject that one would think of or come by. But today it is. Its all over the media, television, the internet. It is very easily accessible to younger people, and as such they can learn about it, what it is, how it works. Hell, take Gaia for example. How many "sex threads" do you see on this site on a daily basis? And how many younger users are there that are able to see this, read about it, learn about it, -understand- it? To simply say that age denotes understanding is just no longer true.

Now, is that to say that I think what happened is okay? That I think this particular girl was "asking" for it and that she shouldn't get concern because she knew what it was? Not at all. I don't personally know the situation that went on so I don't know if this was some innocent girl that was taken advantage of or a girl like the one I knew from the halfway house that sought out those types of relationships at that age. Suffice to say that no one probably does except those directly involved. If I were her mother, I'd be torn apart too.

I don't condone ***** and I don't act upon it myself. I actually get rather a kick out of people that scream that its disgusting but then move around saying how much they love a certain anime character and they "want them". Mainly because the average dictated age of an anime character is 12-16 years old. I'm not saying what the guy did is right or even okay. What I'm saying here is simply this: Children are no longer as innocent as they were in the older person's generation and shouldn't be given the treatment of "They don't understand it!", because sadly enough in the current generations, they understand it completely.

I'm not much for the idea of statutory rape. I think that rape should be rape. If a younger person wants sex, seeks out sex, cajoles or even lies to someone older in order to get it, that person should not be punished because people blindly fight for the "innocence of youth" when it was obvious that it was not there. But if an older person actually takes a younger person against their will, then its rape, plain and simple.

To the OP: You didn't know him at the time these acts were committed, and you are only thinking of him as your friend from back in highschool. There is nothing wrong with that. You can still think of him as a friend because he was. Does that mean you have to accept what he did? Of course not! Hold on to your good memories of him.



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Age is less noted with time, when people are adults and maturity gaps due to age are no longer around. A 7 year gap with a 13 yr old and a 20 yr old is different, there is a HUGE maturity gap, think about how much you matured in that amount of time. I had a friend who was 15 and her 35 yr old moms boyfriend desided that he liked her more. So they had a sexual/romantic relationship, and as she got older she relized, "wow, this guy is a child rapist, I was way too young to relise what was going on, even though I cosented to it at the time. He is a really creepy manipulative guy." when she was younger she didnt understand that, but as she got older , matured, and could conprehend truely what was going on she broke it off, because she knew he had only used her. Keep in mind that she knew what sex was, but it was easy enough for him to manipulate her into it since she was young and naive. She thought she knew who he was, when in reality she didnt, she didnt understand that he was only lying to her. When you are young its hard to see adults on an adult level for who they truely are. It has nothing to do with your idea of child sexless innocence. The people who are older who have sex with children are sick. This also happened to me where an older guy took advantage of how young I was. I knew what sex was, and I knew the consequences of doing it. I however, did not know who he truely was. I hold to it being a big deal. If a young person trust this older figure and does sexual stuff with him/her when they are only manipulating them, is it wrong? I'd say yes. and that they should be held acountable for doing so.
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As I said, its not true in all cases. In some cases yes, the person is being manipulated and wronged. I don't generalize things to the fact that it is always wrong or it is always right.

I have had too much experience with people know that all things are black and white. Working at that Half Way House I was able to realize that all cases of youth having sex with someone older is not the work of them being manipulated. I have meet 13 year olds that were doing the manipulating, that fully understood the concept of it and what they were doing and were pouring themselves onto the older person in order to get it. Not everyone can be labeled innocent just because they are young. -That- was my point. It was not that all sexual acts against children are okay, but that to generalize the entire scope is not entirely true.

And as far as the 13 vs 20 thing goes, in most cases yes. In all cases? No. My ex at 25 was inanely immature. He was like a giant child that simply wanted a mother in his life to take care of him. But his brother at 14 was mature "beyond his years". He had a life plan, was taking steps towards it, was calm collected and understanding. His level of maturity would have put many 20+ year olds to complete shame.



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1. remember him for who he was
2. let him leave your life COMPLETELY and otherwise forget about him

that way you'll be able to rest your thoughts without anger or question, but still be able to look back with that childish innocence you once saw
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Don't really see what the issue here is.

Not like niggas didn't used to ******** and marry 11-year-olds back in the day anyways.

Not into that s**t myself, but this country has a serious fetish for its stupid, f*****t children.

He likes bald p***y, whoopee. Get over it, not like he ate the b***h's entrails or anything.

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Bubba in prison has a thing for *****, and the inmates would like a little beating.
It's bad, but he was your friend before he was a sex offender.
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You can keep your fond memories of him without being friends with him any more. What you're feeling isn't wrong; you knew the good side of him better than the bad side and that's all there is to it.
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Since I have a kid, how I feel would be pretty much polar opposite of how you feel. I honestly don't think I could ever remain friends with someone that took advantage of a child. No matter how amazing I thought they were before, everyone has their deal breaker that's just too much to remain friends. A ***** is definitely one of my deal breakers.

I have no kids, and never will, but I agree with this sentiment. There are some things that being funny or generous can't cancel out. This is one of them. Cumulatively, I think the guy's put a lot more bad into the world than good. I can't see my way clear to excuse that. Sure, he was nice to you as a friend, but that's not the same as being a good person.
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You should accept him for both who you knew him as and for what you found out. He had an odd sexual fetish, that he acted on and now has to deal with the consequences. Everybody makes mistakes, some just more serious than others. It may help you to try to send him a letter. Let him know how you feel, that you remember he was your friend.

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