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So I've seen a lot of people saying take up hobbies and make yourself a better you and all that great inspirational BS, but has anyone suggested you see a therapist? To me it sounds like you may be using drugs to cope with a deeper problem, namely depression. Addiction and mental illness usually go hand in hand. Are you seeing anyone yet, and if not, would you be opposed to seeing someone? I think there's a deeper issue here that drugs are helping you to (successfully, but not completely) avoid.


i've never seen an actual therapist. i mean, i don't think there's anything to really tell them. my parents never split up, i had a decent home, i just screwed up on my own. this is just something i messed up on. my parents didn't abuse me or whatever. they just kicked me out when i was doing drugs, that's what any parents would do.

i dunno. i think the guy who ran my old na group thought he was some kinda therapist, but he didn't have the credentials. he was an a*****e, anyway.


You don't have to have a troubled past or anything. Hell, I've gone to therapy twice now just because I was feeling sad about some stupid s**t. It's just a good place to vent and work out your emotions. You don't even have to go long term, both times I went were 2-5 visits each. You don't need some spectacular sob story to deserve therapy; you just need to be human.

Yeah, that's kind of the issue I take with the LI, for example. Lots of people pretending to be therapists and not knowing what the ******** they're talking about. Half of the people in this thread don't know half of what a addict goes through, they just assume they're shitty, stupid people and everything bad that happens to them is their fault. Hell, I don't even know what an addict goes through and both of my parents are addicts! I guess what I'm getting on here is yeah, maybe you messed up, but so what, we all mess up. Yeah, it was with drugs, and maybe that's something that's preventable, but you appear to be competent and willing enough to admit that that's the problem and take responsibility for it. You're seeking help by coming here, and that's a very brave and noble thing to do. People (yourself included) need to give you some more credit, for Chrissakes! You're halfway there, man. You recognize the need for a solution, you just may not have found one, yet. And maybe you find one, and it works for a little bit, and then it stops. Unfortunately, that's often how recovery, from anything, works. It's an upward spiral of sorts with lows and highs, and there's always gonna be some lows between the highs, but in the long run, things will improve. I mean, just compare where you are now from where you were at your lowest point. And, Jesus, just making an effort to recover is an accomplishment in and of itself.

Sorry for the long and sappy rant (and I thought I was above the "inspirational BS"!). Anywhoo, I still stick by seeing a therapist of some sorts. A REAL therapist, preferably one with good credentials, recommendations, and who specializes in drug use, abuse, and addiction. It might take some research to find one locally, but if you do, I think they'll be able to give you the help you need-- and deserve. Even if it's just someone to talk to and air our your frustrations, it's something. And who knows, maybe you will discover a root cause and some better coping mechanisms to deal with that AND the addiction. I think it's worth a shot, is all I'm saying. And hey, worse comes to worse, you've found a money sink for all of that extra cash-- sometimes mental health doesn't come cheap. wink

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addicts are trash. i get it.

and no, it's not worth it in the long run. i get that. but that doesn't make it any easier to quit.

and i didn't say it before, but sorry for everything you're going through. it sounds like bullshit.

If you get it, you would understand why it isn't good to just indulge, and to seek help instead.

I never said it was easy to quit. But, you have to at least try. This s**t doesn't go away overnight, and on your own. You need help from people that have experience in this stuff, so that you can gain some of that knowledge, and learn to control it, with time.

It's fine. It sucked, but I am whom I am, because of it. Honestly, if I had to re-do it all over again, I would. I don't want to change who I am. You have to get through the bad, to get the good.


i'm seeking help. that's why i'm here, and listening to all of this. i haven't used for days. that's a big deal to me.

thanks for your experience. i'm being a b***h about it, but it goes in the memory bank.

No, from professionals. People trained to handle/deal with these situations better. You need to seek help from them, because they know how to help you best. Seeking help from people online is all fine, and dandy, but won't get you where you NEED to be.

Yes, that is VERY good that you have not used in days.. But you need help from someone there, that can guide you through those times, and show you better ways to manage your emotions, rather than shooting them up.

We all can be bitches about it. emotion_hug I can be a b***h about many things myself. But, you know what? If that is what it takes for you to get through it, then so be it. As long as you try, no one can fault you.
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So I've seen a lot of people saying take up hobbies and make yourself a better you and all that great inspirational BS, but has anyone suggested you see a therapist? To me it sounds like you may be using drugs to cope with a deeper problem, namely depression. Addiction and mental illness usually go hand in hand. Are you seeing anyone yet, and if not, would you be opposed to seeing someone? I think there's a deeper issue here that drugs are helping you to (successfully, but not completely) avoid.


i've never seen an actual therapist. i mean, i don't think there's anything to really tell them. my parents never split up, i had a decent home, i just screwed up on my own. this is just something i messed up on. my parents didn't abuse me or whatever. they just kicked me out when i was doing drugs, that's what any parents would do.

i dunno. i think the guy who ran my old na group thought he was some kinda therapist, but he didn't have the credentials. he was an a*****e, anyway.


You don't have to have a troubled past or anything. Hell, I've gone to therapy twice now just because I was feeling sad about some stupid s**t. It's just a good place to vent and work out your emotions. You don't even have to go long term, both times I went were 2-5 visits each. You don't need some spectacular sob story to deserve therapy; you just need to be human.

Yeah, that's kind of the issue I take with the LI, for example. Lots of people pretending to be therapists and not knowing what the ******** they're talking about. Half of the people in this thread don't know half of what a addict goes through, they just assume they're shitty, stupid people and everything bad that happens to them is their fault. Hell, I don't even know what an addict goes through and both of my parents are addicts! I guess what I'm getting on here is yeah, maybe you messed up, but so what, we all mess up. Yeah, it was with drugs, and maybe that's something that's preventable, but you appear to be competent and willing enough to admit that that's the problem and take responsibility for it. You're seeking help by coming here, and that's a very brave and noble thing to do. People (yourself included) need to give you some more credit, for Chrissakes! You're halfway there, man. You recognize the need for a solution, you just may not have found one, yet. And maybe you find one, and it works for a little bit, and then it stops. Unfortunately, that's often how recovery, from anything, works. It's an upward spiral of sorts with lows and highs, and there's always gonna be some lows between the highs, but in the long run, things will improve. I mean, just compare where you are now from where you were at your lowest point. And, Jesus, just making an effort to recover is an accomplishment in and of itself.

Sorry for the long and sappy rant (and I thought I was above the "inspirational BS"!). Anywhoo, I still stick by seeing a therapist of some sorts. A REAL therapist, preferably one with good credentials, recommendations, and who specializes in drug use, abuse, and addiction. It might take some research to find one locally, but if you do, I think they'll be able to give you the help you need-- and deserve. Even if it's just someone to talk to and air our your frustrations, it's something. And who knows, maybe you will discover a root cause and some better coping mechanisms to deal with that AND the addiction. I think it's worth a shot, is all I'm saying. And hey, worse comes to worse, you've found a money sink for all of that extra cash-- sometimes mental health doesn't come cheap. wink


thanks. really, thanks. a therapist is starting to sound like a better and better idea. like, a real one. they've gotta exist around here, and i've sure as hell got enough time on my hands to find one.

posting this thread was a good idea.
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addicts are trash. i get it.

and no, it's not worth it in the long run. i get that. but that doesn't make it any easier to quit.

and i didn't say it before, but sorry for everything you're going through. it sounds like bullshit.

If you get it, you would understand why it isn't good to just indulge, and to seek help instead.

I never said it was easy to quit. But, you have to at least try. This s**t doesn't go away overnight, and on your own. You need help from people that have experience in this stuff, so that you can gain some of that knowledge, and learn to control it, with time.

It's fine. It sucked, but I am whom I am, because of it. Honestly, if I had to re-do it all over again, I would. I don't want to change who I am. You have to get through the bad, to get the good.


i'm seeking help. that's why i'm here, and listening to all of this. i haven't used for days. that's a big deal to me.

thanks for your experience. i'm being a b***h about it, but it goes in the memory bank.

No, from professionals. People trained to handle/deal with these situations better. You need to seek help from them, because they know how to help you best. Seeking help from people online is all fine, and dandy, but won't get you where you NEED to be.

Yes, that is VERY good that you have not used in days.. But you need help from someone there, that can guide you through those times, and show you better ways to manage your emotions, rather than shooting them up.

We all can be bitches about it. emotion_hug I can be a b***h about many things myself. But, you know what? If that is what it takes for you to get through it, then so be it. As long as you try, no one can fault you.


i hear you. professionals. seems to be the way the thread is going. i'm gonna look into that

there's gotta be someone in the area i can deal with without wanting to shoot myself

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i hear you. professionals. seems to be the way the thread is going. i'm gonna look into that

there's gotta be someone in the area i can deal with without wanting to shoot myself

There always is a way, if you are willing to try. That is how things happen.. You have to put in the effort for things to get better.
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i hear you. professionals. seems to be the way the thread is going. i'm gonna look into that

there's gotta be someone in the area i can deal with without wanting to shoot myself

There always is a way, if you are willing to try. That is how things happen.. You have to put in the effort for things to get better.


the effort part is where it gets hardest. you put your effort into the wrong places, you fail, and it feels like there's no point. but i gotta just look at it as trying meaning something. i've never done that before.

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i hear you. professionals. seems to be the way the thread is going. i'm gonna look into that

there's gotta be someone in the area i can deal with without wanting to shoot myself

There always is a way, if you are willing to try. That is how things happen.. You have to put in the effort for things to get better.


the effort part is where it gets hardest. you put your effort into the wrong places, you fail, and it feels like there's no point. but i gotta just look at it as trying meaning something. i've never done that before.
That is why you have to keep trying, until you hit the right areas, and something works. And yes, you need to look at the trying as a way of accomplishment, because you are trying. Even if you fail, the fact you tried puts you a step higher, because you are putting out effort to try and make life better for yourself.

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Being on the lower spiritual plane is like having major myopia, you do not "see", you cannot see the "real beauty" of the world, the faces of women, art, "higher" music for instance.

Remember how much happier you were when you were a kid? Small things delighted you, everybody loved you, you were happy from the moment you woke up to the moment you went to sleep.
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i hear you. professionals. seems to be the way the thread is going. i'm gonna look into that

there's gotta be someone in the area i can deal with without wanting to shoot myself

There always is a way, if you are willing to try. That is how things happen.. You have to put in the effort for things to get better.


the effort part is where it gets hardest. you put your effort into the wrong places, you fail, and it feels like there's no point. but i gotta just look at it as trying meaning something. i've never done that before.
That is why you have to keep trying, until you hit the right areas, and something works. And yes, you need to look at the trying as a way of accomplishment, because you are trying. Even if you fail, the fact you tried puts you a step higher, because you are putting out effort to try and make life better for yourself.


i guess that's true

thanks. i really need to just shift my approach i guess

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i hear you. professionals. seems to be the way the thread is going. i'm gonna look into that

there's gotta be someone in the area i can deal with without wanting to shoot myself

There always is a way, if you are willing to try. That is how things happen.. You have to put in the effort for things to get better.


the effort part is where it gets hardest. you put your effort into the wrong places, you fail, and it feels like there's no point. but i gotta just look at it as trying meaning something. i've never done that before.
That is why you have to keep trying, until you hit the right areas, and something works. And yes, you need to look at the trying as a way of accomplishment, because you are trying. Even if you fail, the fact you tried puts you a step higher, because you are putting out effort to try and make life better for yourself.


i guess that's true

thanks. i really need to just shift my approach i guess

It is true. The fact that you say "I guess" shows me that you don't want to do it though. People use it as a passive way to agree, but don't want to agree.

You are welcome.

Yes, you need to do it. You have to be forceful with yourself. You need to push, even when it is hard, and you feel like you cannot push anymore. That is when you need to push the most... Otherwise, things just won't get better.

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Cut off the access you have to it?
Therefore removing the temptation.
Go for a long walk, go travelling.
The money you would spend on that can go far with different things to better your life.
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Cut off the access you have to it?
Therefore removing the temptation.
Go for a long walk, go travelling.
The money you would spend on that can go far with different things to better your life.


cutting off the access is more complicated than i can really explain

generally i don't like to go outside. i wouldn't mind travelling someday but it's not really something i can do right now.

i should save my money though. maybe someday i could buy some nice stuff. like a cattle ranch.

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