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Okay, since everyone is screaming for me to edit my first post, I shall.

Long and short of it: I want kids; can't have kids yet. What are good ways to take my mind off it to make the wait less....annoying.




Backstory:
21 years old. Stable job, with a possibility of a promotion in the next week. [Granted, not a pay raise, but a promotion nonetheless.] A buck or so over minimum wage in my state. Less than $20,000 a year, but well above $25,000 if you count my soon-to-be-spouse, age 26. His job is stable as well, but on a lower pay scale than mine. [Maintenance/Janitor work, while full-time, is still paid a lower hourly wage where I work. Regardless of the fact he brings home several hundred more than me a month, I have a higher wage.]
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I became engaged to my fiance in May, and we are due to be married in December. I realized I wanted to marry this man last October, long before I proposed [who says the girl can't do it?!] and by December of LAST YEAR I knew I wanted to have a child/children with him.

Over the past year, both desires grew stronger, leading to my proposal and his acceptance in late May.

However...that other one.

While I know we are to be married soon, my female hormones of course must go crazy for wanting a child NAO. I know we aren't in the best position for this at the moment, using my rational mind this is an easy conclusion.

But my heart is less rational. I see him, at home or at work, and the thought will always cross my mind in the next ten minutes or so. I work currently as a checker at a retail store, and ring up things like diapers, baby food, formula, etc, on a hourly basis. People bring their small children through the line, and that's no help to this desire.

Women years younger than myself bringing their THREE children though my line, paying with WIC [a government-run welfare program for mums and kids, if you don't know] and Food Stamps...and I think, "Why do I HAVE TO WAIT, when they can just have the government pay?!" I have too much self-respect to get myself into a situation where I'd have to be on welfare, especially if it was a conscious choice. I firmly believe if you can't afford children, you shouldn't have them.


The thing is, we COULD afford to have a child. My fiance, however, is not nearly ready to make that jump just yet. He wants kids, yes, plural even, but he doesn't want them YET, he says.

My fiance spends like a 16 year old girl in a shoe store. He buys video games, fast food, and other unnecessary things on a frequent basis. He doesn't seem to believe in buying food to cook at home on a normal person scale. He grew up in a...strange household, and his family didn't do much of the traditional home stuff. He's never lived in something bigger than an apartment, and most of his life has been lived living in a trailer or other such motor-home vehicle.

We currently live in a two bedroom apartment with my sister and her fiance as roommates, though we all are looking for new apartments/houses on account of the fact that our landlady is batshit crazy.

Our bills are minimal as most of our utilities are included in our rent, and aside from my rarely-used credit card and cable/internet, we have nothing else we pay each month.

We could afford to have a child, but he is rather insistent that he'd like to consider continuing his willy-nilly spending. He likes having nice things for himself.



While I'm at work, crying in the break-room because yet ANOTHER of my younger coworkers has accidentally become pregnant while I have to continue waiting. And waiting. And getting older.

I feel like I have this deadline I must meet, and I don't mean the big 4-0 when the eggs start to go bad. I feel like I have less time than that.

We use the Pill as our only BC, and yet after over a year of sexual activity, and me forgetting on occasion to take them on time, [NEVER INTENTIONAL. I have accidentally left them at a relative's house on two occasions, for example, and we had to drive back and get them, making me a day late taking them.] we've not yet had an 'accident.' This is UNHEARD OF in my family. I apparently have the BEST LUCK EVAR with the Pill in my family.
So naturally, my worry is OMG INFERTILE.


I know it's normal for women my age/situation to have the baby fever, but this is going to a bad place with me. I cry over it. Almost daily. I find projects to distract myself [I sew and such] but once they're done, I'm right back to it. It's awful. I want it to stop.

A coworker told me that 'once you get over the baby blues, you'll get pregnant' [Though, lol-worthy, she got pregnant soon after because she's an IDIOT and had a one-night fling, and is now five months to single-mom-hood. Serves her right.]
I have nothing in my life that can take me out of said 'baby blues' for long enough to make a difference.

My record has been three days before my depression over it came back. [Halloween. Dressing up as Pikachu, going to work, and making all the people my age lol was a blast.]


I don't know what to do at this point. I can't force it upon my fiance/husband, and I can't simply STOP wanting it! I dream about it, I think about it, I want to CRY when I ring up other people's pregnancy tests.


At this point, LI, I'm even asking you. If I'm going to LI at 4:30AM, I must be desperate.
I'm only eighteen and I want a baby. Not to that extreme though. I mean, I'm only eighteen so I know that it will be a few years before I could even consider it. My family(the women in my family) are very baby oriented. It's almost like it's in my breeding. I'm the same as you. Every time I see a small baby, or even a toddler, I feel a pang in my heart. I look at the mom, usually single, and I feel a bit of jealousy. It isn't fair. I want to have a little bundle that I can take care of and that will depend on me. I've found my guy. The guy that I want to be the Father of my Children and the love of my life. I love him so much.

We plan on getting married someday. Just not a day any time soon. I'm not stupid. I don't want to bring a baby into this forsaken world and not be able to support it. I want to wait until I can care for it properly. And I'm sure as Hell not bringing a baby into the world fatherless. I'm not going to have a baby with anyone else other than the previously stated guy either. He's my perfect match, honestly. He has great morals and he would make an awesome Father.

We got to talking a five to six months after we started going out and I asked him why he had asked me out in the first place. I mean, I'm pretty(I have a pretty face) yes but I didn't think that I was....up to standard....I guess. Not in his opinion, apparently. Anyway, I asked him and one of his answers was the fact that he thought I would make a good Mother. Granted, he didn't know much about me when he asked me to go out with him. I wondered, still wonder, how he came to that conclusion. Regardless, it made me smile. He is everything that I want the Father of my children to be and I can't imagine my life without him.

I feel your pain....but, though you're twenty-one and somewhat financially stable, I would still wait until you're married and your husband is more comfortable with the idea of having and taking care of a baby. He should be reaching the age where he is ready for that sort of thing anyway. What I'm trying to say is, if your fiance isn't comfortable with the idea of having a little one just yet, then it could cause problems that you won't be able to handle with the added stress of a screaming baby. It's best to wait on him. Sorry about everything that I said that was rather non-related to the subject..... sweatdrop
Love Is Worth Sacrifice
I'm only eighteen and I want a baby. Not to that extreme though. I mean, I'm only eighteen so I know that it will be a few years before I could even consider it. My family(the women in my family) are very baby oriented. It's almost like it's in my breeding. I'm the same as you. Every time I see a small baby, or even a toddler, I feel a pang in my heart. I look at the mom, usually single, and I feel a bit of jealousy. It isn't fair. I want to have a little bundle that I can take care of and that will depend on me. I've found my guy. The guy that I want to be the Father of my Children and the love of my life. I love him so much.

We plan on getting married someday. Just not a day any time soon. I'm not stupid. I don't want to bring a baby into this forsaken world and not be able to support it. I want to wait until I can care for it properly. And I'm sure as Hell not bringing a baby into the world fatherless. I'm not going to have a baby with anyone else other than the previously stated guy either. He's my perfect match, honestly. He has great morals and he would make an awesome Father.

We got to talking a five to six months after we started going out and I asked him why he had asked me out in the first place. I mean, I'm pretty(I have a pretty face) yes but I didn't think that I was....up to standard....I guess. Not in his opinion, apparently. Anyway, I asked him and one of his answers was the fact that he thought I would make a good Mother. Granted, he didn't know much about me when he asked me to go out with him. I wondered, still wonder, how he came to that conclusion. Regardless, it made me smile. He is everything that I want the Father of my children to be and I can't imagine my life without him.

I feel your pain....but, though you're twenty-one and somewhat financially stable, I would still wait until you're married and your husband is more comfortable with the idea of having and taking care of a baby. He should be reaching the age where he is ready for that sort of thing anyway. What I'm trying to say is, if your fiance isn't comfortable with the idea of having a little one just yet, then it could cause problems that you won't be able to handle with the added stress of a screaming baby. It's best to wait on him. Sorry about everything that I said that was rather non-related to the subject..... sweatdrop

I want to wait until December at the earliest, obviously, but I wanted to start trying when we got married, not a YEAR AFTER like he would like.

He's very selfish, and likes to buy his toys. And it kills me. Because all I want is for him to be on the same page as me here. I don't mind waiting for him, but I need some way to make my tears stop, regardless. Knowing I have to wait, even though it's for a reasonable reason, is TORTURE for me.
Yeah, I understand completely, trust me. I see nothing wrong with trying after you get married. I see how he is being selfish, as well. It's not like it happens the first time around. Sure, it does happen that way for a good bit of people but that's mostly just stupid teenagers who have sex when they aren't ready. My dad had no choice in whether or not he was ready for a kid. I was six when my mom met him and they got married. He adopted me and I took his last name. Two years later, my brother was born. My family and life is somewhat complicated.

As far as your soon-to-be husband goes, I think that he should at least be willing to compromise on the situation. It sounds like he's trying to hold on to something that just doesn't exist anymore. Have talked to him about it recently? If you have, then I think that he should respect your wants and needs enough to be willing to compromise despite his own selfish needs and wants and I'm only saying this because I know exactly how much it's hurting you. If I didn't understand the pain, I would more than likely be on his side.
I have to go for now but if you want to talk some more, feel free to send me a private message.
Love Is Worth Sacrifice
Yeah, I understand completely, trust me. I see nothing wrong with trying after you get married. I see how he is being selfish, as well. It's not like it happens the first time around. Sure, it does happen that way for a good bit of people but that's mostly just stupid teenagers who have sex when they aren't ready. My dad had no choice in whether or not he was ready for a kid. I was six when my mom met him and they got married. He adopted me and I took his last name. Two years later, my brother was born. My family and life is somewhat complicated.

As far as your soon-to-be husband goes, I think that he should at least be willing to compromise on the situation. It sounds like he's trying to hold on to something that just doesn't exist anymore. Have talked to him about it recently? If you have, then I think that he should respect your wants and needs enough to be willing to compromise despite his own selfish needs and wants and I'm only saying this because I know exactly how much it's hurting you. If I didn't understand the pain, I would more than likely be on his side.

If he was buying useless crap for ME, perhaps I wouldn't be as cross about it...D:

He doesn't want things to change, or rather, he is AFRAID of what will happen when they do.


Now, here's the worst part. He told me the other night, about a week ago, that he was contemplating 'caving' and having me get off my BC.
I yelled at him, actually. I told him having a child is not a matter of one parent-to-be 'caving' to the other. I asked him, "Are you really ready for nightly trips out for diapers, giving a baby an enema because of digestive problems, being woken up at all hours of the night, forever, by this kid--" He stopped me, with a half-laugh, and said, "Well, I'm not sure I want to give ANYONE an enema" and I said "That. Right there. That is why we can't have kids yet. I would give the kid an enema."

He is afraid of how things will change.
Hi thar biggrin
I'm going to be 21 soon and i just got over that phase of baby-fever. I know how you're feeling, i've felt this way for well over a year and a half myself. I participated and lurked in the Supermoms! Support here on Gaia and also in the Pregnancy support. I recently stopped doing so, not because i didn't like the people there, they're infact the nicest people i've met on gaia ever, but because i wanted to try to get rid of my fever. I miss my friends there dearly, but the babyfever has slowly gone away. It's not like i don't want a baby right now, but it is less of a stabbing pain to see others with children. To me it was the best choice i could make, it was hard to quit talking there, but i'm glad i did it. I know that i want to have a child, ut i also know that i don't want and/or need one asap. My boyfriend of three years ( yay, we had our third anniversary yesterday) agreed that if it feels right we'll go for it, but we're not putting each other under stress anymore.
The best thing i can tell you now is to avoid reading such threads that always rub babies in your face, this'll probably help you 3nodding
If any member of the PS/ SuperMoms! read this, please don't get mad at me, i just want to help others that feel like i did sad
E c l i p s e l y
Hi thar biggrin
I'm going to be 21 soon and i just got over that phase of baby-fever. I know how you're feeling, i've felt this way for well over a year and a half myself. I participated and lurked in the Supermoms! Support here on Gaia and also in the Pregnancy support. I recently stopped doing so, not because i didn't like the people there, they're infact the nicest people i've met on gaia ever, but because i wanted to try to get rid of my fever. I miss my friends there dearly, but the babyfever has slowly gone away. It's not like i don't want a baby right now, but it is less of a stabbing pain to see others with children. To me it was the best choice i could make, it was hard to quit talking there, but i'm glad i did it. I know that i want to have a child, ut i also know that i don't want and/or need one asap. My boyfriend of three years ( yay, we had our third anniversary yesterday) agreed that if it feels right we'll go for it, but we're not putting each other under stress anymore.
The best thing i can tell you now is to avoid reading such threads that always rub babies in your face, this'll probably help you 3nodding
If any member of the PS/ SuperMoms! read this, please don't get mad at me, i just want to help others that feel like i did sad

I don't read such threads for that very reason.

I work at a WalMart. I see babies, young children, and even teenagers [gasp :/] every day. A lot. Preggo women, as well. Even my coworkers.


THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO TO GET AWAY FROM IT. My JOB rubs babies in my face. EVERY ******** DAY AND I CAN'T GET AWAY EVER.
I'm sorry dear, i didn't want to offend you ;( ... I can only imagine how hard that must be...
It's difficult when your fiance isn't even the slightest bit ready yet... Are your a hundred percent sure if something would happen he'd be against it ? My bf is the same as him, he loves to spend money on himself for more or less useless stuff.
E c l i p s e l y
I'm sorry dear, i didn't want to offend you ;( ... I can only imagine how hard that must be...
It's difficult when your fiance isn't even the slightest bit ready yet... Are your a hundred percent sure if something would happen he'd be against it ? My bf is the same as him, he loves to spend money on himself for more or less useless stuff.

Didn't offend me. biggrin I'm a bit blond, but not blond enough to take that as an insult/offensive statement.

And if by that one you mean stop taking the Pill or something, no, everyone at works says to do that as well, but that's horrible, and deceitful. I want him to want a child as much as I want one.....D:

He would want kids within the next year, 100%, IF MONEY WERE NOT INVOLVED, he says.
Okay, OP'er is going to bed now; I'm going to TRY for six hours sleep.

I'll be back at noon-ish West Coast time. Keep posting here until then, I guess, if you'd like. I'd appreciate it.
I'm sorry to hear all this, I can understand. I'm not even old enough to have a baby and I want one, but not as much as you. But I admire the fact that you're not willing to trick him into knocking you up or anything. It wakes me think you must be a good person and seems like you'll make a great mother.

Just try to stay on the positive side. He does want a baby, so think of it like... something to look forward to. Like looking forward to a really exciting vacation. Sure, you wanna go RIGHT NOW! but you have to wait. I'd bet money it's certainly not as easy, but just be glad your guy actually wants to have kids at all. There are so many girls out there like you who are with guys who don't want kids, period.

I really hope you can stick it out until he's ready, and I hope that day comes relatively soon. I wish you the best and I think yer gonna be a great mommy. Don't let all the baby frenzy at your work get you down. Just remember, you'll still get to be a mommy someday. It'll happen. heart
Before you get married to your husband, know where you both stand on this and compromise. Being married makes you a team and since a child is a huge change in any relationship and everyday life, it's something you both need to be up to par with. I don't agree with his spending, mainly because the economy is so bad and what he buys could easily be saved up for future baby since he wants to be financially stable. This is just my opinion but I feel that he should take into consideration just how much you want to have a child and then look at what he's doing to make that step a little closer to becoming reality. At the same time he needs to realize that he will be married in less than a month and the money both of you make belongs to each other...unless you plan to have separate bank accounts. He can't be spending like he's on his own, that doesn't mean you have to ask the other to buy something but if the other really wants something that costs a lot of money (I don't mean to make a baby sound like something you buy but I'm talking about doctor bills, food, diapers, clothes, bedding, toys, bottles, ect.) then both should see if it's a goal they want to achieve and work for it.

With that being said, it sounds like you are pressuring your fiance a little because you do want one so bad. Parenthood should never be forced on someone. When a non-parent looks at a happy family with a baby they see cuteness and get warm feelings. Just remember, that little bundle of joy becomes somewhat of a nightmare the first few months. Babies cry a lot of the time they are awake, they sleep for two hours, wake up and eat (with some crying), and go back to sleep. This goes on day and night for almost two months straight, sometimes longer if you don't sleep train them right away like I did my daughter. You're in the baby fever because you're surrounded by them and it seems like everyone and their mother are getting pregnant but look at the good sides of this. You can go to bed as late as you want (sleep a full night without a baby crying every two hours or worse, every half hour) and on your days off, you can sleep as late as you want. When you two want to go out, or just you on your own, you don't have to plan it around baby, you just get up and go. You can have one on one time with your fiance and you don't have to have the stress of a newborn taking up the time and draining your energy so when you do have alone time, you don't even want to be intimate, you want to sleep. There are both good and bad sides to having a child, almost every person I know that has had a child (myself and my mom included) calling their mother in the middle of the night and crying because they are just exhausted and frustrated. Being a parent is very stressful and it isn't something that should be pressured to a person.

Now, I also think you need to take into consideration that you and your fiance do not live alone. Although you want a child, does your sister want to have one disturbing her sleep and everyday life? It's probably best to wait until you two live on your own, it wouldn't be best to anger your roomies. A good way to reason with baby fever, think of both the good and the bad. Having a baby that is 100% dependent on you is not easy and it's nothing like babysitting, which you didn't mention but I'm just trying to say, no one is ever prepared for what parenthood is like.

EDIT:

Just because you miss a day in taking a pill doesn't mean you'll get pregnant and it doesn't mean you are infertile. If you've been taking it over a year, your body is in tune with your birth control and you won't get likely get pregnant from a missing one day of BC. If you had just started taking it, well, that might be another story. Your body is used to the effects the pill causes so
when you missed a day, it still went on to do what it has been doing for a year. When you get off the pill, you may not be able to conceive right away, don't be scared. Each human body is different, your fertility is also different from anyone in your family.
OrangeSugarCookies
Love Is Worth Sacrifice
Yeah, I understand completely, trust me. I see nothing wrong with trying after you get married. I see how he is being selfish, as well. It's not like it happens the first time around. Sure, it does happen that way for a good bit of people but that's mostly just stupid teenagers who have sex when they aren't ready. My dad had no choice in whether or not he was ready for a kid. I was six when my mom met him and they got married. He adopted me and I took his last name. Two years later, my brother was born. My family and life is somewhat complicated.

As far as your soon-to-be husband goes, I think that he should at least be willing to compromise on the situation. It sounds like he's trying to hold on to something that just doesn't exist anymore. Have talked to him about it recently? If you have, then I think that he should respect your wants and needs enough to be willing to compromise despite his own selfish needs and wants and I'm only saying this because I know exactly how much it's hurting you. If I didn't understand the pain, I would more than likely be on his side.

If he was buying useless crap for ME, perhaps I wouldn't be as cross about it...D:

He doesn't want things to change, or rather, he is AFRAID of what will happen when they do.


Now, here's the worst part. He told me the other night, about a week ago, that he was contemplating 'caving' and having me get off my BC.
I yelled at him, actually. I told him having a child is not a matter of one parent-to-be 'caving' to the other. I asked him, "Are you really ready for nightly trips out for diapers, giving a baby an enema because of digestive problems, being woken up at all hours of the night, forever, by this kid--" He stopped me, with a half-laugh, and said, "Well, I'm not sure I want to give ANYONE an enema" and I said "That. Right there. That is why we can't have kids yet. I would give the kid an enema."

He is afraid of how things will change.


Everyone is afraid of change because it's just that; Change. Unpredictable and inevitable. It's clear that he wants kids. Just not now. I don't see the harm in waiting. It's going to happen, just not as soon as you'd hoped. He seems to be being a bit immature about the whole situation though. I mean, having a baby is a big deal to you and according to what you posted, he's acting as if it's just another whim, another fantasy, a phase. Granted, some of it is just a phase. Part of a phase. He should acknowledge how strongly you feel about it and act accordingly. He's twenty-six. Most men want kids. They want to have a child with the woman that they love and raise them to be good, strong adults. It's in their nature, not just ours.

Change is going to come, like it or not, even when the two of you marry. Then again, another way to look at it is....maybe he wants to spend some time with you, just you and him alone, before the two of you jump into anything so long term as having a child. Maybe he wants to have you all to himself for a while before he has to share you with your child. A creature you're going to love so dearly, it will test and put pressure on the love that you have developed for the man that you are about to marry.

That's just another point of view. As much as I love my boyfriend, when we get married and have a child, if he does something that I don't approve of regarding my child, sparks are going to fly. I would talk with him about it and see if it couldn't be resolved, yes but....don't mess with my kid. Lol.
OrangeSugarCookies
E c l i p s e l y
I'm sorry dear, i didn't want to offend you ;( ... I can only imagine how hard that must be...
It's difficult when your fiance isn't even the slightest bit ready yet... Are your a hundred percent sure if something would happen he'd be against it ? My bf is the same as him, he loves to spend money on himself for more or less useless stuff.

Didn't offend me. biggrin I'm a bit blond, but not blond enough to take that as an insult/offensive statement.

And if by that one you mean stop taking the Pill or something, no, everyone at works says to do that as well, but that's horrible, and deceitful. I want him to want a child as much as I want one.....D:

He would want kids within the next year, 100%, IF MONEY WERE NOT INVOLVED, he says.
I'd never suggest that, i despise the girls who do so. I knew a girl who did this on purose and was astonished when her bf left her after she told him she's pregnant because she missed the pill on purpose. She had an abortion afterwards.
I really hope the best for you, if you'd like to, add me as a friend if you ever need someone to talk to online i'll be there smile

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