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Recently a close friend of mine (lets call her Mary) who I have known for five years since graduate school mentioned that she no longer wished to be friends with me because was too busy spending time and also sleeping with some of her co workers so that she could earn a promotion faster.

Normally the loss of a close friendship would upset me, I would often want closure and I would often feel the effects of a loss of a friendship for months/years .

This time was different. I don't care that Mary no longer wants to be friend with me, Furthermore I also no longer care if any of my other friends want to be my friends. I don't care if my friends stop talking to me I almost expect my friends to behave badly towards me and yet I don't care if I lose a friendship if they behave badly towards me

Is this feeling of not caring about friends normal?

Where do I go from here?
Previously I used to lament loss of friendships but now I don't care at all if I lose friendships
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It seems you have switched from friend mode into business mode. Like my friend did. The moment he got power and money, he changed. Completely changed, and dropped all his poor, unsuccessful friends. Like they didn't matter anymore. Mainly me and a couple of other people in our town. And I don't know why. I normally would be bothered by it too, but I wasn't, because he became a douche bag with success and rubbing it into peoples' faces. That he is better than everyone else. Needless to say, that is what it is nowadays. However, there are genuine people out there for you to behold if you look hard enough for them, some may be even right in front of you. However, until you switch this mentality of wanting success over friends, it is going to be difficult to ever really find long lasting friends. At least that is what it seems to be to me. Not saying that I am in any way right, but it does seem to fit the symptoms. And graduate school does change people sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Depends on the person that goes into it.
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It seems you have switched from friend mode into business mode. Like my friend did. The moment he got power and money, he changed. Completely changed, and dropped all his poor, unsuccessful friends. Like they didn't matter anymore. Mainly me and a couple of other people in our town. And I don't know why. I normally would be bothered by it too, but I wasn't, because he became a douche bag with success and rubbing it into peoples' faces. That he is better than everyone else. Needless to say, that is what it is nowadays. However, there are genuine people out there for you to behold if you look hard enough for them, some may be even right in front of you. However, until you switch this mentality of wanting success over friends, it is going to be difficult to ever really find long lasting friends. At least that is what it seems to be to me. Not saying that I am in any way right, but it does seem to fit the symptoms. And graduate school does change people sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Depends on the person that goes into it.


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I think you may have misread my post.I never switched from friend mode to business mode, however my friend Mary did.

The fact that my friend Mary was the one that no longer wanted to be friends was the catalyst to this.

Mary said to me that she no longer wanted to be my friend because I "couldn't help her to secure a promotion"

As a result of Mary's actions I no longer cared if any of my friends cut me out of their lives

Once again thank you for your post
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It seems you have switched from friend mode into business mode. Like my friend did. The moment he got power and money, he changed. Completely changed, and dropped all his poor, unsuccessful friends. Like they didn't matter anymore. Mainly me and a couple of other people in our town. And I don't know why. I normally would be bothered by it too, but I wasn't, because he became a douche bag with success and rubbing it into peoples' faces. That he is better than everyone else. Needless to say, that is what it is nowadays. However, there are genuine people out there for you to behold if you look hard enough for them, some may be even right in front of you. However, until you switch this mentality of wanting success over friends, it is going to be difficult to ever really find long lasting friends. At least that is what it seems to be to me. Not saying that I am in any way right, but it does seem to fit the symptoms. And graduate school does change people sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Depends on the person that goes into it.


Thanks for the post

I think you may have misread my post.I never switched from friend mode to business mode, however my friend Mary did.

The fact that my friend Mary was the one that no longer wanted to be friends was the catalyst to this.

Mary said to me that she no longer wanted to be my friend because I "couldn't help her to secure a promotion"

As a result of Mary's actions I no longer cared if any of my friends cut me out of their lives

Once again thank you for your post

No I didn't misread. You said a friend you known since grad school cut you out and you have no feelings towards it once so ever, and you don't care about losing all your friends. Did I misread that? Sounds like to me that you switched your mind into business mode.
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It seems you have switched from friend mode into business mode. Like my friend did. The moment he got power and money, he changed. Completely changed, and dropped all his poor, unsuccessful friends. Like they didn't matter anymore. Mainly me and a couple of other people in our town. And I don't know why. I normally would be bothered by it too, but I wasn't, because he became a douche bag with success and rubbing it into peoples' faces. That he is better than everyone else. Needless to say, that is what it is nowadays. However, there are genuine people out there for you to behold if you look hard enough for them, some may be even right in front of you. However, until you switch this mentality of wanting success over friends, it is going to be difficult to ever really find long lasting friends. At least that is what it seems to be to me. Not saying that I am in any way right, but it does seem to fit the symptoms. And graduate school does change people sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Depends on the person that goes into it.


Thanks for the post

I think you may have misread my post.I never switched from friend mode to business mode, however my friend Mary did.

The fact that my friend Mary was the one that no longer wanted to be friends was the catalyst to this.

Mary said to me that she no longer wanted to be my friend because I "couldn't help her to secure a promotion"

As a result of Mary's actions I no longer cared if any of my friends cut me out of their lives

Once again thank you for your post

No I didn't misread. You said a friend you known since grad school cut you out and you have no feelings towards it once so ever, and you don't care about losing all your friends. Did I misread that? Sounds like to me that you switched your mind into business mode.


Thank you for the reply

Yes that's correct. I think I might have been the one that misunderstood your post, I apologise for that.

However.... I still don't feel like I'm in business mode, But to be honest I don't really know how to describe how I'm feeling, I think there's almost a sense of freedom, almost like a part of me is happy that I don't care, there's also a sense of ... peace as well

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it
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It seems you have switched from friend mode into business mode. Like my friend did. The moment he got power and money, he changed. Completely changed, and dropped all his poor, unsuccessful friends. Like they didn't matter anymore. Mainly me and a couple of other people in our town. And I don't know why. I normally would be bothered by it too, but I wasn't, because he became a douche bag with success and rubbing it into peoples' faces. That he is better than everyone else. Needless to say, that is what it is nowadays. However, there are genuine people out there for you to behold if you look hard enough for them, some may be even right in front of you. However, until you switch this mentality of wanting success over friends, it is going to be difficult to ever really find long lasting friends. At least that is what it seems to be to me. Not saying that I am in any way right, but it does seem to fit the symptoms. And graduate school does change people sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Depends on the person that goes into it.


Thanks for the post

I think you may have misread my post.I never switched from friend mode to business mode, however my friend Mary did.

The fact that my friend Mary was the one that no longer wanted to be friends was the catalyst to this.

Mary said to me that she no longer wanted to be my friend because I "couldn't help her to secure a promotion"

As a result of Mary's actions I no longer cared if any of my friends cut me out of their lives

Once again thank you for your post

No I didn't misread. You said a friend you known since grad school cut you out and you have no feelings towards it once so ever, and you don't care about losing all your friends. Did I misread that? Sounds like to me that you switched your mind into business mode.


Thank you for the reply

Yes that's correct. I think I might have been the one that misunderstood your post, I apologise for that.

However.... I still don't feel like I'm in business mode, But to be honest I don't really know how to describe how I'm feeling, I think there's almost a sense of freedom, almost like a part of me is happy that I don't care, there's also a sense of ... peace as well

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it

Well, then maybe she wasn't a good fit for you. And you subconsciously sensed it. And didn't realize it until now. When she does something scuzzy like this. Because personally, its filthy what she is doing. And she will get no where. People don't do what she is doing, and get far in life. She will get pregnant, and be alone with many children and be forced to live off welfare.

But that isn't the point. It seems to me that you want to focus on people the compliment you. Like your personality. Its difficult to find people like that, that won't repress your emotions, or exploit who you are. However they exist, myself included. I think what you need to do is surround yourself with people that compliment who you are. and are willing to give you social interaction that is going to be wholesome and good. Also that is going to be intellectual and stimulating. Something that you may or may not had, I don't know the kinds of people you talk to. If you need people like that, I fit that bill. Its who I am. Its about all I can do sweatdrop However, from what I am gathering, everyone needs social interaction, everyone needs a friend, but what they don't need is people that are always going to dominate and control them in every way, shape, and form. Which kinda sounds like this chick was all about, though she may have been INCREDIBLY subtle about it.
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It seems you have switched from friend mode into business mode. Like my friend did. The moment he got power and money, he changed. Completely changed, and dropped all his poor, unsuccessful friends. Like they didn't matter anymore. Mainly me and a couple of other people in our town. And I don't know why. I normally would be bothered by it too, but I wasn't, because he became a douche bag with success and rubbing it into peoples' faces. That he is better than everyone else. Needless to say, that is what it is nowadays. However, there are genuine people out there for you to behold if you look hard enough for them, some may be even right in front of you. However, until you switch this mentality of wanting success over friends, it is going to be difficult to ever really find long lasting friends. At least that is what it seems to be to me. Not saying that I am in any way right, but it does seem to fit the symptoms. And graduate school does change people sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Depends on the person that goes into it.


Thanks for the post

I think you may have misread my post.I never switched from friend mode to business mode, however my friend Mary did.

The fact that my friend Mary was the one that no longer wanted to be friends was the catalyst to this.

Mary said to me that she no longer wanted to be my friend because I "couldn't help her to secure a promotion"

As a result of Mary's actions I no longer cared if any of my friends cut me out of their lives

Once again thank you for your post

No I didn't misread. You said a friend you known since grad school cut you out and you have no feelings towards it once so ever, and you don't care about losing all your friends. Did I misread that? Sounds like to me that you switched your mind into business mode.


Thank you for the reply

Yes that's correct. I think I might have been the one that misunderstood your post, I apologise for that.

However.... I still don't feel like I'm in business mode, But to be honest I don't really know how to describe how I'm feeling, I think there's almost a sense of freedom, almost like a part of me is happy that I don't care, there's also a sense of ... peace as well

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it

Well, then maybe she wasn't a good fit for you. And you subconsciously sensed it. And didn't realize it until now. When she does something scuzzy like this. Because personally, its filthy what she is doing. And she will get no where. People don't do what she is doing, and get far in life. She will get pregnant, and be alone with many children and be forced to live off welfare.

But that isn't the point. It seems to me that you want to focus on people the compliment you. Like your personality. Its difficult to find people like that, that won't repress your emotions, or exploit who you are. However they exist, myself included. I think what you need to do is surround yourself with people that compliment who you are. and are willing to give you social interaction that is going to be wholesome and good. Also that is going to be intellectual and stimulating. Something that you may or may not had, I don't know the kinds of people you talk to. If you need people like that, I fit that bill. Its who I am. Its about all I can do sweatdrop However, from what I am gathering, everyone needs social interaction, everyone needs a friend, but what they don't need is people that are always going to dominate and control them in every way, shape, and form. Which kinda sounds like this chick was all about, though she may have been INCREDIBLY subtle about it.


Thank you for once again replying, I appreciate it

Indeed she was incredibly subtle but now that you mention it she did have a habit of controlling and manipulating people, as shown when she tongued a 16 year old guy and a 45 year old guy to get them to do what she wanted. She also had a habit of taking "trophies" of the people she manipulated. Ranging from Identity cards to jewellery to everything in between. Mary even once used the memory of a dead friend of hers to try and take the moral high ground in an argument once

Mary often said she wanted my old driving licence, fortunately I always told her no

Thank you once again for replying, I really appreciate it
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It seems you have switched from friend mode into business mode. Like my friend did. The moment he got power and money, he changed. Completely changed, and dropped all his poor, unsuccessful friends. Like they didn't matter anymore. Mainly me and a couple of other people in our town. And I don't know why. I normally would be bothered by it too, but I wasn't, because he became a douche bag with success and rubbing it into peoples' faces. That he is better than everyone else. Needless to say, that is what it is nowadays. However, there are genuine people out there for you to behold if you look hard enough for them, some may be even right in front of you. However, until you switch this mentality of wanting success over friends, it is going to be difficult to ever really find long lasting friends. At least that is what it seems to be to me. Not saying that I am in any way right, but it does seem to fit the symptoms. And graduate school does change people sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Depends on the person that goes into it.


Thanks for the post

I think you may have misread my post.I never switched from friend mode to business mode, however my friend Mary did.

The fact that my friend Mary was the one that no longer wanted to be friends was the catalyst to this.

Mary said to me that she no longer wanted to be my friend because I "couldn't help her to secure a promotion"

As a result of Mary's actions I no longer cared if any of my friends cut me out of their lives

Once again thank you for your post

No I didn't misread. You said a friend you known since grad school cut you out and you have no feelings towards it once so ever, and you don't care about losing all your friends. Did I misread that? Sounds like to me that you switched your mind into business mode.


Thank you for the reply

Yes that's correct. I think I might have been the one that misunderstood your post, I apologise for that.

However.... I still don't feel like I'm in business mode, But to be honest I don't really know how to describe how I'm feeling, I think there's almost a sense of freedom, almost like a part of me is happy that I don't care, there's also a sense of ... peace as well

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it

Well, then maybe she wasn't a good fit for you. And you subconsciously sensed it. And didn't realize it until now. When she does something scuzzy like this. Because personally, its filthy what she is doing. And she will get no where. People don't do what she is doing, and get far in life. She will get pregnant, and be alone with many children and be forced to live off welfare.

But that isn't the point. It seems to me that you want to focus on people the compliment you. Like your personality. Its difficult to find people like that, that won't repress your emotions, or exploit who you are. However they exist, myself included. I think what you need to do is surround yourself with people that compliment who you are. and are willing to give you social interaction that is going to be wholesome and good. Also that is going to be intellectual and stimulating. Something that you may or may not had, I don't know the kinds of people you talk to. If you need people like that, I fit that bill. Its who I am. Its about all I can do sweatdrop However, from what I am gathering, everyone needs social interaction, everyone needs a friend, but what they don't need is people that are always going to dominate and control them in every way, shape, and form. Which kinda sounds like this chick was all about, though she may have been INCREDIBLY subtle about it.


Thank you for once again replying, I appreciate it

Indeed she was incredibly subtle but now that you mention it she did have a habit of controlling and manipulating people, as shown when she tongued a 16 year old guy and a 45 year old guy to get them to do what she wanted. She also had a habit of taking "trophies" of the people she manipulated. Ranging from Identity cards to jewellery to everything in between. Mary even once used the memory of a dead friend of hers to try and take the moral high ground in an argument once

Mary often said she wanted my old driving licence, fortunately I always told her no

Thank you once again for replying, I really appreciate it

This is called Black Widow Sociopathism. Its quite dangerous. I have met someone else like this,and it cost me my career, and most of my contacts in my life... I was quite annoyed with them when I was making quite a lot of money. But this isn't about me, just using myself as an example. The key you need to realize is, she is gone, she is better off being gone, and now you need to find someone better to replace them. That's what I would do. And if you got most of your friends from being with her, she is going to attract people just like her, or people she can manipulate. That's a known fact. Birds of a feather stick together. And they could have used you as a patsy this entire time. What I would do, is find someone, that is not going to do that. And if you are looking, I nominate someone that is available at night, likes to talk a lot, and is willing to listen no matter what... either way, if you want to talk to me, PM me. I am always willing to talk to anyone. And everyone. And I won't abuse your kindness.
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No I didn't misread. You said a friend you known since grad school cut you out and you have no feelings towards it once so ever, and you don't care about losing all your friends. Did I misread that? Sounds like to me that you switched your mind into business mode.


Thank you for the reply

Yes that's correct. I think I might have been the one that misunderstood your post, I apologise for that.

However.... I still don't feel like I'm in business mode, But to be honest I don't really know how to describe how I'm feeling, I think there's almost a sense of freedom, almost like a part of me is happy that I don't care, there's also a sense of ... peace as well

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it

Well, then maybe she wasn't a good fit for you. And you subconsciously sensed it. And didn't realize it until now. When she does something scuzzy like this. Because personally, its filthy what she is doing. And she will get no where. People don't do what she is doing, and get far in life. She will get pregnant, and be alone with many children and be forced to live off welfare.

But that isn't the point. It seems to me that you want to focus on people the compliment you. Like your personality. Its difficult to find people like that, that won't repress your emotions, or exploit who you are. However they exist, myself included. I think what you need to do is surround yourself with people that compliment who you are. and are willing to give you social interaction that is going to be wholesome and good. Also that is going to be intellectual and stimulating. Something that you may or may not had, I don't know the kinds of people you talk to. If you need people like that, I fit that bill. Its who I am. Its about all I can do sweatdrop However, from what I am gathering, everyone needs social interaction, everyone needs a friend, but what they don't need is people that are always going to dominate and control them in every way, shape, and form. Which kinda sounds like this chick was all about, though she may have been INCREDIBLY subtle about it.


Thank you for once again replying, I appreciate it

Indeed she was incredibly subtle but now that you mention it she did have a habit of controlling and manipulating people, as shown when she tongued a 16 year old guy and a 45 year old guy to get them to do what she wanted. She also had a habit of taking "trophies" of the people she manipulated. Ranging from Identity cards to jewellery to everything in between. Mary even once used the memory of a dead friend of hers to try and take the moral high ground in an argument once

Mary often said she wanted my old driving licence, fortunately I always told her no

Thank you once again for replying, I really appreciate it

This is called Black Widow Sociopathism. Its quite dangerous. I have met someone else like this,and it cost me my career, and most of my contacts in my life... I was quite annoyed with them when I was making quite a lot of money. But this isn't about me, just using myself as an example. The key you need to realize is, she is gone, she is better off being gone, and now you need to find someone better to replace them. That's what I would do. And if you got most of your friends from being with her, she is going to attract people just like her, or people she can manipulate. That's a known fact. Birds of a feather stick together. And they could have used you as a patsy this entire time. What I would do, is find someone, that is not going to do that. And if you are looking, I nominate someone that is available at night, likes to talk a lot, and is willing to listen no matter what... either way, if you want to talk to me, PM me. I am always willing to talk to anyone. And everyone. And I won't abuse your kindness.


Thank you again for the reply

Yes most of my friends know Mary or are connected to Mary.

It's hard to know who to trust, particularly because I attract so many bad people, Mary is just the most recent example

The strange thing is most people I let into my life seem normal at first and then all of a sudden they're not normal,

Maybe I'm just slow to realise what people are like

Thank you again for the reply.
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No I didn't misread. You said a friend you known since grad school cut you out and you have no feelings towards it once so ever, and you don't care about losing all your friends. Did I misread that? Sounds like to me that you switched your mind into business mode.


Thank you for the reply

Yes that's correct. I think I might have been the one that misunderstood your post, I apologise for that.

However.... I still don't feel like I'm in business mode, But to be honest I don't really know how to describe how I'm feeling, I think there's almost a sense of freedom, almost like a part of me is happy that I don't care, there's also a sense of ... peace as well

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it

Well, then maybe she wasn't a good fit for you. And you subconsciously sensed it. And didn't realize it until now. When she does something scuzzy like this. Because personally, its filthy what she is doing. And she will get no where. People don't do what she is doing, and get far in life. She will get pregnant, and be alone with many children and be forced to live off welfare.

But that isn't the point. It seems to me that you want to focus on people the compliment you. Like your personality. Its difficult to find people like that, that won't repress your emotions, or exploit who you are. However they exist, myself included. I think what you need to do is surround yourself with people that compliment who you are. and are willing to give you social interaction that is going to be wholesome and good. Also that is going to be intellectual and stimulating. Something that you may or may not had, I don't know the kinds of people you talk to. If you need people like that, I fit that bill. Its who I am. Its about all I can do sweatdrop However, from what I am gathering, everyone needs social interaction, everyone needs a friend, but what they don't need is people that are always going to dominate and control them in every way, shape, and form. Which kinda sounds like this chick was all about, though she may have been INCREDIBLY subtle about it.


Thank you for once again replying, I appreciate it

Indeed she was incredibly subtle but now that you mention it she did have a habit of controlling and manipulating people, as shown when she tongued a 16 year old guy and a 45 year old guy to get them to do what she wanted. She also had a habit of taking "trophies" of the people she manipulated. Ranging from Identity cards to jewellery to everything in between. Mary even once used the memory of a dead friend of hers to try and take the moral high ground in an argument once

Mary often said she wanted my old driving licence, fortunately I always told her no

Thank you once again for replying, I really appreciate it

This is called Black Widow Sociopathism. Its quite dangerous. I have met someone else like this,and it cost me my career, and most of my contacts in my life... I was quite annoyed with them when I was making quite a lot of money. But this isn't about me, just using myself as an example. The key you need to realize is, she is gone, she is better off being gone, and now you need to find someone better to replace them. That's what I would do. And if you got most of your friends from being with her, she is going to attract people just like her, or people she can manipulate. That's a known fact. Birds of a feather stick together. And they could have used you as a patsy this entire time. What I would do, is find someone, that is not going to do that. And if you are looking, I nominate someone that is available at night, likes to talk a lot, and is willing to listen no matter what... either way, if you want to talk to me, PM me. I am always willing to talk to anyone. And everyone. And I won't abuse your kindness.


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Yes most of my friends know Mary or are connected to Mary.

It's hard to know who to trust, particularly because I attract so many bad people, Mary is just the most recent example

The strange thing is most people I let into my life seem normal at first and then all of a sudden they're not normal,

Maybe I'm just slow to realise what people are like

Thank you again for the reply.

Is this your main account? Because it seems to be so plain with your outfit and everything. Or do you not play so much?

Also, it seems that people always seem normal at first. I am for one going to tell you that I am NOT normal. Never once will I ever say I am normal. I am me, and I am not like them. I will say that. Just understand that I am someone that has been around the block more times than not.
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Well, then maybe she wasn't a good fit for you. And you subconsciously sensed it. And didn't realize it until now. When she does something scuzzy like this. Because personally, its filthy what she is doing. And she will get no where. People don't do what she is doing, and get far in life. She will get pregnant, and be alone with many children and be forced to live off welfare.

But that isn't the point. It seems to me that you want to focus on people the compliment you. Like your personality. Its difficult to find people like that, that won't repress your emotions, or exploit who you are. However they exist, myself included. I think what you need to do is surround yourself with people that compliment who you are. and are willing to give you social interaction that is going to be wholesome and good. Also that is going to be intellectual and stimulating. Something that you may or may not had, I don't know the kinds of people you talk to. If you need people like that, I fit that bill. Its who I am. Its about all I can do sweatdrop However, from what I am gathering, everyone needs social interaction, everyone needs a friend, but what they don't need is people that are always going to dominate and control them in every way, shape, and form. Which kinda sounds like this chick was all about, though she may have been INCREDIBLY subtle about it.


Thank you for once again replying, I appreciate it

Indeed she was incredibly subtle but now that you mention it she did have a habit of controlling and manipulating people, as shown when she tongued a 16 year old guy and a 45 year old guy to get them to do what she wanted. She also had a habit of taking "trophies" of the people she manipulated. Ranging from Identity cards to jewellery to everything in between. Mary even once used the memory of a dead friend of hers to try and take the moral high ground in an argument once

Mary often said she wanted my old driving licence, fortunately I always told her no

Thank you once again for replying, I really appreciate it

This is called Black Widow Sociopathism. Its quite dangerous. I have met someone else like this,and it cost me my career, and most of my contacts in my life... I was quite annoyed with them when I was making quite a lot of money. But this isn't about me, just using myself as an example. The key you need to realize is, she is gone, she is better off being gone, and now you need to find someone better to replace them. That's what I would do. And if you got most of your friends from being with her, she is going to attract people just like her, or people she can manipulate. That's a known fact. Birds of a feather stick together. And they could have used you as a patsy this entire time. What I would do, is find someone, that is not going to do that. And if you are looking, I nominate someone that is available at night, likes to talk a lot, and is willing to listen no matter what... either way, if you want to talk to me, PM me. I am always willing to talk to anyone. And everyone. And I won't abuse your kindness.


Thank you again for the reply

Yes most of my friends know Mary or are connected to Mary.

It's hard to know who to trust, particularly because I attract so many bad people, Mary is just the most recent example

The strange thing is most people I let into my life seem normal at first and then all of a sudden they're not normal,

Maybe I'm just slow to realise what people are like

Thank you again for the reply.

Is this your main account? Because it seems to be so plain with your outfit and everything. Or do you not play so much?

Also, it seems that people always seem normal at first. I am for one going to tell you that I am NOT normal. Never once will I ever say I am normal. I am me, and I am not like them. I will say that. Just understand that I am someone that has been around the block more times than not.


I rarely come on Gaia which is why my avatar is still in basic clothing.

There's nothing wrong with not being normal, I'm not normal either, but what I meant was that the people I know in real life at first seem like decent people and then all of a sudden maybe after a few months or in some cases a few years they seem to go through these radical changes and then they stop behaving like decent people and become cruel

Sorry I should have explained myself better

Thanks once again for the reply
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Well, then maybe she wasn't a good fit for you. And you subconsciously sensed it. And didn't realize it until now. When she does something scuzzy like this. Because personally, its filthy what she is doing. And she will get no where. People don't do what she is doing, and get far in life. She will get pregnant, and be alone with many children and be forced to live off welfare.

But that isn't the point. It seems to me that you want to focus on people the compliment you. Like your personality. Its difficult to find people like that, that won't repress your emotions, or exploit who you are. However they exist, myself included. I think what you need to do is surround yourself with people that compliment who you are. and are willing to give you social interaction that is going to be wholesome and good. Also that is going to be intellectual and stimulating. Something that you may or may not had, I don't know the kinds of people you talk to. If you need people like that, I fit that bill. Its who I am. Its about all I can do sweatdrop However, from what I am gathering, everyone needs social interaction, everyone needs a friend, but what they don't need is people that are always going to dominate and control them in every way, shape, and form. Which kinda sounds like this chick was all about, though she may have been INCREDIBLY subtle about it.


Thank you for once again replying, I appreciate it

Indeed she was incredibly subtle but now that you mention it she did have a habit of controlling and manipulating people, as shown when she tongued a 16 year old guy and a 45 year old guy to get them to do what she wanted. She also had a habit of taking "trophies" of the people she manipulated. Ranging from Identity cards to jewellery to everything in between. Mary even once used the memory of a dead friend of hers to try and take the moral high ground in an argument once

Mary often said she wanted my old driving licence, fortunately I always told her no

Thank you once again for replying, I really appreciate it

This is called Black Widow Sociopathism. Its quite dangerous. I have met someone else like this,and it cost me my career, and most of my contacts in my life... I was quite annoyed with them when I was making quite a lot of money. But this isn't about me, just using myself as an example. The key you need to realize is, she is gone, she is better off being gone, and now you need to find someone better to replace them. That's what I would do. And if you got most of your friends from being with her, she is going to attract people just like her, or people she can manipulate. That's a known fact. Birds of a feather stick together. And they could have used you as a patsy this entire time. What I would do, is find someone, that is not going to do that. And if you are looking, I nominate someone that is available at night, likes to talk a lot, and is willing to listen no matter what... either way, if you want to talk to me, PM me. I am always willing to talk to anyone. And everyone. And I won't abuse your kindness.


Thank you again for the reply

Yes most of my friends know Mary or are connected to Mary.

It's hard to know who to trust, particularly because I attract so many bad people, Mary is just the most recent example

The strange thing is most people I let into my life seem normal at first and then all of a sudden they're not normal,

Maybe I'm just slow to realise what people are like

Thank you again for the reply.

Is this your main account? Because it seems to be so plain with your outfit and everything. Or do you not play so much?

Also, it seems that people always seem normal at first. I am for one going to tell you that I am NOT normal. Never once will I ever say I am normal. I am me, and I am not like them. I will say that. Just understand that I am someone that has been around the block more times than not.


I rarely come on Gaia which is why my avatar is still in basic clothing.

There's nothing wrong with not being normal, I'm not normal either, but what I meant was that the people I know in real life at first seem like decent people and then all of a sudden maybe after a few months or in some cases a few years they seem to go through these radical changes and then they stop behaving like decent people and become cruel

Sorry I should have explained myself better

Thanks once again for the reply

Well I won't go through radical changes. So don't worry about that.
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This is called Black Widow Sociopathism. Its quite dangerous. I have met someone else like this,and it cost me my career, and most of my contacts in my life... I was quite annoyed with them when I was making quite a lot of money. But this isn't about me, just using myself as an example. The key you need to realize is, she is gone, she is better off being gone, and now you need to find someone better to replace them. That's what I would do. And if you got most of your friends from being with her, she is going to attract people just like her, or people she can manipulate. That's a known fact. Birds of a feather stick together. And they could have used you as a patsy this entire time. What I would do, is find someone, that is not going to do that. And if you are looking, I nominate someone that is available at night, likes to talk a lot, and is willing to listen no matter what... either way, if you want to talk to me, PM me. I am always willing to talk to anyone. And everyone. And I won't abuse your kindness.


Thank you again for the reply

Yes most of my friends know Mary or are connected to Mary.

It's hard to know who to trust, particularly because I attract so many bad people, Mary is just the most recent example

The strange thing is most people I let into my life seem normal at first and then all of a sudden they're not normal,

Maybe I'm just slow to realise what people are like

Thank you again for the reply.

Is this your main account? Because it seems to be so plain with your outfit and everything. Or do you not play so much?

Also, it seems that people always seem normal at first. I am for one going to tell you that I am NOT normal. Never once will I ever say I am normal. I am me, and I am not like them. I will say that. Just understand that I am someone that has been around the block more times than not.


I rarely come on Gaia which is why my avatar is still in basic clothing.

There's nothing wrong with not being normal, I'm not normal either, but what I meant was that the people I know in real life at first seem like decent people and then all of a sudden maybe after a few months or in some cases a few years they seem to go through these radical changes and then they stop behaving like decent people and become cruel

Sorry I should have explained myself better

Thanks once again for the reply

Well I won't go through radical changes. So don't worry about that.


lol thanks biggrin
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This is called Black Widow Sociopathism. Its quite dangerous. I have met someone else like this,and it cost me my career, and most of my contacts in my life... I was quite annoyed with them when I was making quite a lot of money. But this isn't about me, just using myself as an example. The key you need to realize is, she is gone, she is better off being gone, and now you need to find someone better to replace them. That's what I would do. And if you got most of your friends from being with her, she is going to attract people just like her, or people she can manipulate. That's a known fact. Birds of a feather stick together. And they could have used you as a patsy this entire time. What I would do, is find someone, that is not going to do that. And if you are looking, I nominate someone that is available at night, likes to talk a lot, and is willing to listen no matter what... either way, if you want to talk to me, PM me. I am always willing to talk to anyone. And everyone. And I won't abuse your kindness.


Thank you again for the reply

Yes most of my friends know Mary or are connected to Mary.

It's hard to know who to trust, particularly because I attract so many bad people, Mary is just the most recent example

The strange thing is most people I let into my life seem normal at first and then all of a sudden they're not normal,

Maybe I'm just slow to realise what people are like

Thank you again for the reply.

Is this your main account? Because it seems to be so plain with your outfit and everything. Or do you not play so much?

Also, it seems that people always seem normal at first. I am for one going to tell you that I am NOT normal. Never once will I ever say I am normal. I am me, and I am not like them. I will say that. Just understand that I am someone that has been around the block more times than not.


I rarely come on Gaia which is why my avatar is still in basic clothing.

There's nothing wrong with not being normal, I'm not normal either, but what I meant was that the people I know in real life at first seem like decent people and then all of a sudden maybe after a few months or in some cases a few years they seem to go through these radical changes and then they stop behaving like decent people and become cruel

Sorry I should have explained myself better

Thanks once again for the reply

Well I won't go through radical changes. So don't worry about that.


lol thanks biggrin

Well if you want to continue this, go ahead and PM me and we can continue talking.

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