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- Posted: Sun, 06 May 2012 20:51:18 +0000
Anyway, back on topic, you don't seem to understand anything I am saying or what the OP is saying. You don't seem to grasp that the father is loose with money, our government won't give away free money so he can make this decision, and continue to think that he should be blindly praised and obeyed. I don't know about your country, but here we don't blindly abide by what the father/husband/man figure says. If it seems wrong, feels wrong, and could lead you to trouble then you try to reason any other way. You work with the family to make a conscious and sound decision.
What you don't seem to understand is that all that has been given in this thread is opinions and guesses, not facts.
The OP has not listed numbers. She has not given us a list of money that would be coming in, and a list of money that would be going out. She has not given us details of how much home care, or a care home would cost.
She thinks there won't be enough money. However, she does not know exactly how much the household bills are, or how much the groceries etc cost. She says the father has taken out loans and played with the savings, yet I doubt that even she knows how much the father would actually be getting in his pension, or how much he actually has in savings. For all I know, the loans he took out could have already been paid back.
She says the father is useless with money. She says he has paranoia. How do I (or you) know that she doesn't just hate the father and is stating biased, emotional judgements. For all I know, maybe the father is actually completely loopy insane and so paranoid that he thinks aliens will steal his money if he puts it in a bank, so he must get rid of it all the time and never save it. Or maybe he had a paranoid episode after trying weed 20 years ago, took medication to help him recover, hasn't touched weed since, and therefore is sane and doesn't need medication anymore. Maybe he's paranoid about carers because his son was raped by one when he was a kid, and he has kept that information private from the OP. Maybe when he was being treated for paranoia, the father went into a care facility where he was mistreated, and therefore never wants his son to go through the same thing. I don't know, you don't know, and possibly even the OP doesn't know what the true facts are.
From my point of view, what the OP has written is full of inconsistencies, and what looks to me, to be full blown manipulative lies in places. Although OP, if you are reading this, and I have just completely misjudged you, then I apologise. I don't know you, and just have words to go on.
Without hard facts, no-one, not you, not me, not the OP and not the father, can make a proper informed judgement about whether he could survive or not on his early retirement idea. I don't know, you don't know, and the OP may not know if the father has already looked at the actual facts and figures, and made an informed decision based on them.
You've made assumptions, and come to a conclusion based on those assumptions. You're now policing this thread like you know all the facts, when you don't. You tell me it's impossible to survive on welfare, but how do I know whether you just think that because you're used to living a rich life, or smoke 100 cigarettes and drink alcohol everyday, and therefore think eating basic, cheap brand foods or surviving without treats etc. = negligence or lack of survival, and you can't understand how welfare can cover cigarette and booze costs.
I have an opinion, based on personal experience, that the early retirement plan might be possible. If the OP or the father were to give me actual facts and figures to prove that it isn't possible, then I would change my mind. You, with your assumptions and opinions, is not going to change my mind. Your assumptions and opinions really aren't any better or worse than mine, since they're both just assumptions and opinions. Neither of them are facts or based on facts.
Please just stop posting. Now you are being ridiculous and an extremest in your own farfetched examples. You have no idea how America works, our systems (welfare can't buy cigarettes and alcohol), how middle class can survive fine, or anything.
You were asked by the OP to quit posting as well, so just please stop. Nothing you have said has been helpful.