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I'm not sure whether she is in the Illuminati or a puppet of the Illuminati. Her videos are really weird. Visit www.vigilantcitizen.com there's a ton of articles about her there and her music videos decoded
This is just stupid.
Lady GaGa is a good person! So what if she's different and likes to express herself though the unusual?!?!
Her message is teaching people to love one another and to live in peace!
Besides, being in the Illuminati isn't even bad 0___<

If you're going to argue about something, get your facts right first.
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I'm not sure whether she is in the Illuminati or a puppet of the Illuminati. Her videos are really weird. Visit www.vigilantcitizen.com there's a ton of articles about her there and her music videos decoded


Yeah I saw that too, the references to mind control and electro shock, the a-okay symbol, it's all there, I studied media studies at school so I'm interested in the connotations of music videos and things smile

As to whether Lady Gaga is Illuminati or a puppet, I've no idea, I'm not too bothered, her music is awesome, she's a wicked singer, in my opinion the Illuminati symbols just make things a little more interesting wink
Mrs.BonJovi
Do you have sources to back up these claims? And what makes you think that just because she uses said symbolism that she's not just doing it for shits and giggles?


That would be even more irresponsible.

Seriously.

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She's probably done her homework and watches people with tin foil hats squirm in their seats when she uses said symbolism.


Occultism = Tin foil hats?

That makes lots of sense. You do know they are actually conspiracy that actually happened? Like stating people must wear tin foils hats if they say they even believe conspiracy is pretty ignorant of actual conspiracies and arrogant.


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Or exactly what makes you think that the Illuminati are evil in the first place? Illuminati does me "enlightened" which is something this world could use.


If you actually cared about that point you would do your research. Enlightenment =/= Knowledge.

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I doubt that could happen.
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How can it be deemed demonic when their sole purpose is to completely get rid of religion within the world? which by the way, would be a fantastic idea.


Half of her music has religious meanings or metaphors. Secondly, religion can indeed be dangerous, more often then other things, but bring about a lot of good as well. Now, if you actually cared about the conspiracy theories they want to establish a new religion encompassing both good and bad, a one world religion along with an one world government and or becomes gods themselves.

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Seriously, sign me up because I would love a world without religion. One less thing to start wars.


******** faceplam.
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I remember that article. I also remember loling at it.


Loling at the idea of her being a part or used by the "Illuminati" or it's explanation of religions and believes?
The idea that Gaga is in the Illuminati is slightly... idiotic. So what if she throws up signs? Gangsters throw up signs. Doesn't mean they're Satanist, or apart of the KKK, or some other nuance. The woman has said that she believes she was put here on this Earth to cause a ruckus. She's doing so through her music.
this is a religus bloodbath labeled gaga. excuse my spelling
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The problem with your argument is that it is fueled by nothing but furtive fallacy, which is a sugar-coated term for general paranoia. Symbolism shouldn't be used as solid proof since it can be interpreted differently from person to person. That is the biggest problem with these media and pop culture claims.

I'm not going to bother trying to convince you about anything because you have clearly made up your mind. I've done alot of my own research about conspiracy theories and about people like you who believe in them; people are rather fascinating creatures.
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The problem with your argument is that it is fueled by nothing but furtive fallacy, which is a sugar-coated term for general paranoia.


Where's your support that I'm paranoid and how does one being a conspiracy theorists make them paranoid? I just explained to you what you asked for and now you're going to brand those who answer as conspiracy theorists? Pft.

Honestly, me replying to you does not in no way imply that I agree with the Op or even disagree, nothing about my personal opinions were mentioned, so you're grasping at straws and assuming things. All I said was Occultism does not equal Tin foil hats and simply labeling a conspiracy theorists as nut bags discredits or ignores the reality there have been actual conspiracies, people get booked for that s**t all the time. That is one out of many ways to look at conspiracies.

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Symbolism shouldn't be used as solid proof since it can be interpreted differently from person to person.


Which is a problem, if people educated themselves, this is including you, those differences might be little. Yes, the Op did use the symbolism as reason for why she thinks Gaga is involved, but you ruled out how the Op sentenced her opinion in the title, "I think" is not a claim or indicates there's not a strong argument present. In an essay, that would be a booboo.

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That is the biggest problem with these media and pop culture claims.


And this is your excuse for being crude how?

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I'm not going to bother trying to convince you about anything because you have clearly made up your mind.


You think because you've done research on conspiracies somehow means you can assume what people think how?

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I've done alot of my own research about conspiracy theories and about people like you who believe in them;



I've done a lot of research about people in society and culture, specifically where people shut their brains off while listening to some one who claims to know what they talk about. See how easy that was?

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people are rather fascinating creatures.


Doesn't GaGa have a message about not Judging people? I think she does. Oh and nice job with totally ignoring my point that GaGa has many religious symbols and metaphors which she is trying to use to bring people together, not divide them. I guess you're blind and deaf when it comes to her music. Finally, if you did your research on history, foreign and political affairs you'd know that religion is often just a tool to get people to comply not necessarily a reason to star a war, even then there's this thing called responsibility

Have a good day, hypocrite.
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The problem with your argument is that it is fueled by nothing but furtive fallacy, which is a sugar-coated term for general paranoia.


Where's your support that I'm paranoid and how does one being a conspiracy theorists make them paranoid? I just explained to you what you asked for and now you're going to brand those who answer as conspiracy theorists? Pft.

Honestly, me replying to you does not in no way imply that I agree with the Op or even disagree, nothing about my personal opinions were mentioned, so you're grasping at straws and assuming things. All I said was Occultism does not equal Tin foil hats and simply labeling a conspiracy theorists as nut bags discredits or ignores the reality there have been actual conspiracies, people get booked for that s**t all the time. That is one out of many ways to look at conspiracies.

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Symbolism shouldn't be used as solid proof since it can be interpreted differently from person to person.


Which is a problem, if people educated themselves, this is including you, those differences might be little. Yes, the Op did use the symbolism as reason for why she thinks Gaga is involved, but you ruled out how the Op sentenced her opinion in the title, "I think" is not a claim or indicates there's not a strong argument present. In an essay, that would be a booboo.

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That is the biggest problem with these media and pop culture claims.


And this is your excuse for being crude how?

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I'm not going to bother trying to convince you about anything because you have clearly made up your mind.


You think because you've done research on conspiracies somehow means you can assume what people think how?

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I've done alot of my own research about conspiracy theories and about people like you who believe in them;



I've done a lot of research about people in society and culture, specifically where people shut their brains off while listening to some one who claims to know what they talk about. See how easy that was?

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people are rather fascinating creatures.


Doesn't GaGa have a message about not Judging people? I think she does. Oh and nice job with totally ignoring my point that GaGa has many religious symbols and metaphors which she is trying to use to bring people together, not divide them. I guess you're blind and deaf when it comes to her music. Finally, if you did your research on history, foreign and political affairs you'd know that religion is often just a tool to get people to comply not necessarily a reason to star a war, even then there's this thing called responsibility

Have a good day, hypocrite.


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Mrs.BonJovi
Do you have sources to back up these claims? And what makes you think that just because she uses said symbolism that she's not just doing it for shits and giggles? She's probably done her homework and watches people with tin foil hats squirm in their seats when she uses said symbolism.

Or exactly what makes you think that the Illuminati are evil in the first place? Illuminati does me "enlightened" which is something this world could use.

Please. Enlighten me


this! she knows and has read up on it. she even mentions it in her Rolling Stones interview of 2010. she's poking fun at it and it's working full force lol
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Mrs.BonJovi
Do you have sources to back up these claims? And what makes you think that just because she uses said symbolism that she's not just doing it for shits and giggles? She's probably done her homework and watches people with tin foil hats squirm in their seats when she uses said symbolism.

Or exactly what makes you think that the Illuminati are evil in the first place? Illuminati does me "enlightened" which is something this world could use.

Please. Enlighten me


this! she knows and has read up on it. she even mentions it in her Rolling Stones interview of 2010. she's poking fun at it and it's working full force lol


And that makes what she's doing okay how?

"Lol, Imz makin funz of its an therfor its ok" ?
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Mrs.BonJovi
Do you have sources to back up these claims? And what makes you think that just because she uses said symbolism that she's not just doing it for shits and giggles? She's probably done her homework and watches people with tin foil hats squirm in their seats when she uses said symbolism.

Or exactly what makes you think that the Illuminati are evil in the first place? Illuminati does me "enlightened" which is something this world could use.

Please. Enlighten me


this! she knows and has read up on it. she even mentions it in her Rolling Stones interview of 2010. she's poking fun at it and it's working full force lol


And that makes what she's doing okay how?

"Lol, Imz makin funz of its an therfor its ok" ?


If it gets a reaction then her art succeeded.
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Mrs.BonJovi
Do you have sources to back up these claims? And what makes you think that just because she uses said symbolism that she's not just doing it for shits and giggles? She's probably done her homework and watches people with tin foil hats squirm in their seats when she uses said symbolism.

Or exactly what makes you think that the Illuminati are evil in the first place? Illuminati does me "enlightened" which is something this world could use.

Please. Enlighten me


this! she knows and has read up on it. she even mentions it in her Rolling Stones interview of 2010. she's poking fun at it and it's working full force lol


And that makes what she's doing okay how?

"Lol, Imz makin funz of its an therfor its ok" ?


If it gets a reaction then her art succeeded.


Again, that justifies her actions how?

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