UPDATE: Supreme Court Denies Stay, Same Sex Marriages in FL

What are your thoughts on this petition?

Worthy cause	32.5%	[ 13 ]
Lost cause	55.0%	[ 22 ]
Other	12.5%	[ 5 ]
Total Votes:			[ 40 ]

[Blood Valkyrie]

Damorion215

Blood Valkyrie

Damorion215

Well, just so you and the rest of "y'all" libs know and understand, us "folk" here in the South actually cherish tradition and the morality of our once great nation of the "United States-A". We "ain't" nearly as uneducated as "y'all" think "we is".

But seriously, how does gay "marriage" morally benefit society in anyway? Because I will say it right here and now:

Homosexuality is nothing more than a coping mechanism for most people who have been abused as children and have had their brains messed up from the experience AND the lies told by society and the media that you don't have to marry and have sex with the opposite gender. There are two types of homosexuals: those who are "true" homosexuals, who are the very people described above and those who are "false" homosexuals, who have gone homo because they either think of it as a "fad" and/or are doing it to promote the idea of homosexuality as something moral and okay. For those who are "true" homosexuals, we need to try and help them understand what went on in their lives. This does not mean sending them to a "straight" or "get un-gay" camp, this does not mean being a homophobic and bashing them like they're some disease, and this does not mean ignoring homosexuality like it's no big deal.

It means counseling and therapy to the best of our abilities and hoping for the best, hoping that these "true" homosexuals will be able to turn their lives around in some way and ignore the lies of society. Will be able to help every "true" homosexual? No. Either way, as person, I will still be friends with a "true" homosexual and still treat them as human beings. Does this mean I'll should go to gay pride parades? No. Does this mean I should attend gay weddings? No. Does this mean I should turn gay? Absolutely not. Again, the best any of us can do is to help people find better coping mechanisms and ways to deal and get through what they've been through in life and treat them as human beings. All in all:



Gay "marriage" is a facade and instrument used by media, society, and politicians to get votes, money, and whatever they want by using people who have been sexually, mentally, and physically abused!!! This is wrong and needs to be stopped!!!

So again, I ask you, any and all of you, how is gay marriage morally beneficial to humans?

How is marriage, period, morally beneficial to humans?

Wow, lol. You seriously didn't just ask that?

How do you think the Earth would be if marriage didn't exist? Marriage is a sacred institution between one man and one woman who love each other more than they would anyone else. In fact, how do you think the Earth would be if everyone were incestuous polygamists?

Simply put, marriage keeps love organized. Your question is absurd.

So, why don't you get the point, then?

Marriage is good.
Gay people want marriage.
Why deny them marriage? Gay people are just like straight people. Denying them marriage is unfair discrimination.

[Blood Valkyrie]

GSK Lives

Damorion215

Simply put, marriage keeps love organized. Your question is absurd.

Actually, your take on history is absurd. Marriage for love is a NEW thing, ace.

If marriage was truly that sacred an institution, why was marriage for political or financial gain the norm until the last 200 years or so?

In some cultures, marriage is still not at all about love. x3
(Agreeing with you, btw)

I've heard that even in Japan, where marrying for love is now a thing, some people will sort of arrange their own marriages, choosing people they don't love and haven't known for very long, because they think the match would be good. I forgot what that process was called.

[Lucht]

Damorion215

Wow, lol. You seriously didn't just ask that?

How do you think the Earth would be if marriage didn't exist? Marriage is a sacred institution between one man and one woman who love each other more than they would anyone else. In fact, how do you think the Earth would be if everyone were incestuous polygamists?

Simply put, marriage keeps love organized. Your question is absurd.

Because, you know... marriage defiantly stops people from being unfaithful... confused

[Glight 1994]

Damorion215

Loving someone for their genitals instead of their heart is shallow and sad.

And that "no gays in history!" argument is bull s**t. Homosexuality is and has been prominent throughout the world for centuries, and we are still discovering evidence. Much of it is either not discussed, or written out entirely because of bigots like you. Loud mouths who can't stand for anyone to be happy but themselves, and only ever accept thing they personally believe. Religion has played a pivotal part in Queer erasure as well.

Also, news flash; Homosexuality as well as an array of other queer activities are observed in over five hundred different species other than humans. :/

And yes, I was abused by men growing up. I was abused by women too. I still know I was never interest in men. Not once. I thought I was a freak until I met my fiancee Savhanna. I live with her in our own beautiful house with our own adorable cats, and I've never been happier in my life. If you think that's wrong, or we deserve less because you're too bigoted to understand, then you can go back to your hate filled life, and enjoy watching the rest of the world move on without you, you ignorant p***k.

[xXFurygeistXx]

Hahahaha! Suck it, Florida! twisted If you don't like gay marriage, then don't get gay married. It's that ******** simple. You don't like gays, don't be friends with them. Stop trying to control the lives of people you don't agree with and don't like. Everyone should be able to enter into the legal contract of marriage if they are of age and sound mind.

[Stale Taste]

Damorion215

Well, just so you and the rest of "y'all" libs know and understand, us "folk" here in the South actually cherish tradition and the morality of our once great nation of the "United States-A". We "ain't" nearly as uneducated as "y'all" think "we is".

But seriously, how does gay "marriage" morally benefit society in anyway? Because I will say it right here and now:

Homosexuality is nothing more than a coping mechanism for most people who have been abused as children and have had their brains messed up from the experience AND the lies told by society and the media that you don't have to marry and have sex with the opposite gender. There are two types of homosexuals: those who are "true" homosexuals, who are the very people described above and those who are "false" homosexuals, who have gone homo because they either think of it as a "fad" and/or are doing it to promote the idea of homosexuality as something moral and okay. For those who are "true" homosexuals, we need to try and help them understand what went on in their lives. This does not mean sending them to a "straight" or "get un-gay" camp, this does not mean being a homophobic and bashing them like they're some disease, and this does not mean ignoring homosexuality like it's no big deal.

It means counseling and therapy to the best of our abilities and hoping for the best, hoping that these "true" homosexuals will be able to turn their lives around in some way and ignore the lies of society. Will be able to help every "true" homosexual? No. Either way, as person, I will still be friends with a "true" homosexual and still treat them as human beings. Does this mean I'll should go to gay pride parades? No. Does this mean I should attend gay weddings? No. Does this mean I should turn gay? Absolutely not. Again, the best any of us can do is to help people find better coping mechanisms and ways to deal and get through what they've been through in life and treat them as human beings. All in all:



Gay "marriage" is a facade and instrument used by media, society, and politicians to get votes, money, and whatever they want by using people who have been sexually, mentally, and physically abused!!! This is wrong and needs to be stopped!!!

So again, I ask you, any and all of you, how is gay marriage morally beneficial to humans?

This has all been disproven by modern psychology. You are just biased.

[God Emperor Baldur]

Blood Valkyrie

Damorion215

Blood Valkyrie

Damorion215

Well, just so you and the rest of "y'all" libs know and understand, us "folk" here in the South actually cherish tradition and the morality of our once great nation of the "United States-A". We "ain't" nearly as uneducated as "y'all" think "we is".

But seriously, how does gay "marriage" morally benefit society in anyway? Because I will say it right here and now:

Homosexuality is nothing more than a coping mechanism for most people who have been abused as children and have had their brains messed up from the experience AND the lies told by society and the media that you don't have to marry and have sex with the opposite gender. There are two types of homosexuals: those who are "true" homosexuals, who are the very people described above and those who are "false" homosexuals, who have gone homo because they either think of it as a "fad" and/or are doing it to promote the idea of homosexuality as something moral and okay. For those who are "true" homosexuals, we need to try and help them understand what went on in their lives. This does not mean sending them to a "straight" or "get un-gay" camp, this does not mean being a homophobic and bashing them like they're some disease, and this does not mean ignoring homosexuality like it's no big deal.

It means counseling and therapy to the best of our abilities and hoping for the best, hoping that these "true" homosexuals will be able to turn their lives around in some way and ignore the lies of society. Will be able to help every "true" homosexual? No. Either way, as person, I will still be friends with a "true" homosexual and still treat them as human beings. Does this mean I'll should go to gay pride parades? No. Does this mean I should attend gay weddings? No. Does this mean I should turn gay? Absolutely not. Again, the best any of us can do is to help people find better coping mechanisms and ways to deal and get through what they've been through in life and treat them as human beings. All in all:



Gay "marriage" is a facade and instrument used by media, society, and politicians to get votes, money, and whatever they want by using people who have been sexually, mentally, and physically abused!!! This is wrong and needs to be stopped!!!

So again, I ask you, any and all of you, how is gay marriage morally beneficial to humans?

How is marriage, period, morally beneficial to humans?

Wow, lol. You seriously didn't just ask that?

How do you think the Earth would be if marriage didn't exist? Marriage is a sacred institution between one man and one woman who love each other more than they would anyone else. In fact, how do you think the Earth would be if everyone were incestuous polygamists?

Simply put, marriage keeps love organized. Your question is absurd.

So, why don't you get the point, then?

Marriage is good.
Gay people want marriage.
Why deny them marriage? Gay people are just like straight people. Denying them marriage is unfair discrimination.
Promiscuity is arguably better and many anthropologist believe that's how human beings were. Promiscuity mixes the gene pool more so than monogamy.

[edit] failed to notice that there was a break in the quote line.

[Glight 1994]

xXFurygeistXx

Hahahaha! Suck it, Florida! twisted If you don't like gay marriage, then don't get gay married. It's that ******** simple. You don't like gays, don't be friends with them. Stop trying to control the lives of people you don't agree with and don't like. Everyone should be able to enter into the legal contract of marriage if they are of age and sound mind.

Well ********' said. emotion_donotwant

[Lulamoon Sage]

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With my question, what I'm really asking (or I guess meant to ask) is how is homosexuality morally beneficial to society?

I could ask the same of heterosexuality. Both can have normal, happy, healthy families and both have the potential to be a detriment to society. The fact that heterosexual couples can naturally have children doesn't make them as perfect and infallible as you make them out to be, no matter how deeply anyone deludes themselves to believe it does.

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Gay marriage is beneficial for those participating in gay marriage.

Again, the same can be said of heterosexual marriage, so why not allow gays to be married?

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Also, the reason straight couples get benefits is because they're following the laws of nature.

If that's the case, gay couples deserve the same benefits, since homosexuality isn't an exclusively human phenomenon. Besides that, marriage law mentions a grand total of ZERO things about the laws of nature anyway. Try again.

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I don't ever remember there being any sort of gay couple being there when the first straight couple came about to the human race.

And just when did the first straight couple come about? How do you know there weren't any gay couples around then?

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So, to answer your question, I'll ask another one: If gay people weren't abused as children, then what good, moral reasons would someone have (aside from "choice) to become gay?

How the hell do you answer a question with a question? Seems like a cop out to me.

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Because I've researched enough to know that there are people who are real and who are fake.

Citation needed. Name your method of determining the difference between a "true" homosexual and a "false" homosexual. Also, show me studies and reasearch that proves your claims true.

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If I'm going to help LGTB people, I need to know if they are truly gay for themselves or if they're gay for money and fame. You can't tell me that there aren't cases in the LGTB community where someone was found out for not being gay and only pretending to be gay just to get money and attention.

That's unbelievably arrogant and presumptuous of you. It's also highly condescending. You think you're some sort of white knight who's gonna ride in and "liberate" these people, but you aren't gonna do anything but show more people just how bigoted you are. Homosexuals will be far better off without your sort of "help".

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Psychological counseling and therapy to discover why they're gay, but more so, why they should continue to be. What counseling and therapy did you think I meant?

Knowing your type? Pray the gay away camps and self shaming "therapy" sessions designed to shame them into living a lie. These people aren't stupid. They know they're homosexuals and they don't need to be given any new validation as to why. If they did, they'd seek it out.

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Because they're not gay. I can't believe you even asked this.

And why not?

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Diversionary tactics

Oh no you don't. Answer my last question first. I wanna see defenitive proof backing up all the claims in your original post that homosexuals are the way they are because they were abused as children, as well as your claim that you researched homosexuals and found them to be dishonest about their lifestyle.

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Wait. What factor don't they have no control over? Marriage? Well, if they didn't choose to be gay, then they could marry the gender opposite of them and enjoy the benefits of a straight couple.

Do you realize how little sense that makes? If they're homosexual, they aren't going to be capable of loving someone from the opposite sex.

[Alice Allusion]

xXFurygeistXx

Hahahaha! Suck it, Florida! twisted If you don't like gay marriage, then don't get gay married. It's that ******** simple. You don't like gays, don't be friends with them. Stop trying to control the lives of people you don't agree with and don't like. Everyone should be able to enter into the legal contract of marriage if they are of age and sound mind.

I totally agree.

[Bogotanian]

Florida is a place for Cubans and Puerto Ricans

[MiameMiame]

azulmagia

Torture YES, queers marrying NO.

Wonderful ethical priorities you Yanks have there.

Omg this.

[azulmagia]

MiameMiame

azulmagia

Torture YES, queers marrying NO.

Wonderful ethical priorities you Yanks have there.

Omg this.

And now apparently the torture might include dog rape.

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We’re not sure what’s more depressing about this story alleging that CIA torture contractors may have used dogs to rape detainees in Afghanistan: The possibility that it happened, our realization that the CIA hasn’t given us any reason to think they’d never stoop to such a thing, or the dead certainty that if the allegations are proven true, there will be plenty of Americans who will not only make excuses for it, but will actually insist that using dogs to rape Muslim prisoners was a pretty clever thing to do. If it was done.

....

The sad fact is that, given what we already know about the CIA’s practices at Bagram and other “black sites,” we don’t have any reason to say, “No way, that’s a line that they’d never cross.” We’re really hoping that this is just a rumor. And we also won’t be the least bit surprised if someday we hear some of the usual suspects reassuring Fox News viewers that a little bit of rape by dogs was OK if it saved American lives, and besides, some people are into porn of that so why all the outrage?

(link)

[MiameMiame]

azulmagia

MiameMiame

azulmagia

Torture YES, queers marrying NO.

Wonderful ethical priorities you Yanks have there.

Omg this.

And now apparently the torture might include dog rape.

Quote:

We’re not sure what’s more depressing about this story alleging that CIA torture contractors may have used dogs to rape detainees in Afghanistan: The possibility that it happened, our realization that the CIA hasn’t given us any reason to think they’d never stoop to such a thing, or the dead certainty that if the allegations are proven true, there will be plenty of Americans who will not only make excuses for it, but will actually insist that using dogs to rape Muslim prisoners was a pretty clever thing to do. If it was done.

....

The sad fact is that, given what we already know about the CIA’s practices at Bagram and other “black sites,” we don’t have any reason to say, “No way, that’s a line that they’d never cross.” We’re really hoping that this is just a rumor. And we also won’t be the least bit surprised if someday we hear some of the usual suspects reassuring Fox News viewers that a little bit of rape by dogs was OK if it saved American lives, and besides, some people are into porn of that so why all the outrage?

(link)

gonk Poor dogs. I am happy I am not American.