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Tamon Robinson died in April after he was struck by an NYPD squad car during a chase in which Robinson attempted to flee from police. Now the cops want his family to pay up. Robinson’s mother, Laverne Dobbinson, was sent a bill for $710 by a collection agency hired by the city to pay for repairs to the car that struck her son. The city said it would file a lawsuit if the debt was not paid. Police allege that Robinson was caught stealing decorative stones from a Brooklyn housing project and was struck by the car — his death was ruled accidental — during a subsequent chase.

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That seems really, really low to me. The cops kill her boy and now they're just rubbing salt into the wounds.
Not cool. At all.
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Sort of get it? If he committed a crime, it makes sense for his family to pay for the damage now that he's gone.

Still an a*****e move though...
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Tamon Robinson died in April after he was struck by an NYPD squad car during a chase in which Robinson attempted to flee from police. Now the cops want his family to pay up. Robinson’s mother, Laverne Dobbinson, was sent a bill for $710 by a collection agency hired by the city to pay for repairs to the car that struck her son. The city said it would file a lawsuit if the debt was not paid. Police allege that Robinson was caught stealing decorative stones from a Brooklyn housing project and was struck by the car — his death was ruled accidental — during a subsequent chase.

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There is no basis in U.S. law for the mother to be charged, unless he was driving her vehicle with her permission.
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Tamon Robinson died in April after he was struck by an NYPD squad car during a chase in which Robinson attempted to flee from police. Now the cops want his family to pay up. Robinson’s mother, Laverne Dobbinson, was sent a bill for $710 by a collection agency hired by the city to pay for repairs to the car that struck her son. The city said it would file a lawsuit if the debt was not paid. Police allege that Robinson was caught stealing decorative stones from a Brooklyn housing project and was struck by the car — his death was ruled accidental — during a subsequent chase.

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There is no basis in U.S. law for the mother to be charged, unless he was driving her vehicle with her permission.


I thought about this. The article does not say how old he was.
If he was a minor then the parents would be responsible for damages the child caused.
If he was an adult then the bill could be sent to his estate, of which his mother might be the executor. Though in that case the estate would only have to pay it if it could afford it. The bill would not transfer to the parents.
Either case assumes Tamon would be legally responsible for the bill if he had lived.
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I wonder the cost of the damages he racked up stealing the stones from the building.
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Tamon Robinson died in April after he was struck by an NYPD squad car during a chase in which Robinson attempted to flee from police. Now the cops want his family to pay up. Robinson’s mother, Laverne Dobbinson, was sent a bill for $710 by a collection agency hired by the city to pay for repairs to the car that struck her son. The city said it would file a lawsuit if the debt was not paid. Police allege that Robinson was caught stealing decorative stones from a Brooklyn housing project and was struck by the car — his death was ruled accidental — during a subsequent chase.

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There is no basis in U.S. law for the mother to be charged, unless he was driving her vehicle with her permission.
He was not driving at all, he was on foot.
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Ugh, for two reasons.
1. Half-assed source that links to the superior source on the page.
2. A person here claiming there's no information when it's right there.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mother-tamon-robinson-charged-dent-made-nypd-car-struck-son-article-1.1175484#ixzz28R3WvwzO
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TAMON ROBINSON tried to outrun cops, but couldn’t.

The 27-year-old coffee barista died in April after being struck by an NYPD squad car that began chasing him as he swiped paver stones in the predawn light at his Brooklyn housing project.

Now his mom’s being chased anew, hounded by a collection agency hired by the city with a cruel final demand, the Daily News has learned.

The city has ordered her to pay the $710 cost of repairing the police car that killed her boy.

“We’re still grieving, and this is like a slap in the face,” Robinson’s mom, Laverne Dobbinson, 45, told The News.

“They want my son to pay for damage to the vehicle that killed him. It’s crazy.”

The blood-money letter dated Sept. 27 and mailed to her son seeks $710 for “property damage to a vehicle owned by the New York Police Department.”

It also threatens to slap the family with a lawsuit if the claim isn’t paid.

“Isn’t there respect for the dead?” asked John Torrence, 50, the victim’s uncle.

Police said Robinson was fleeing after being caught red-handed stealing the decorative stones from the grounds of the Bayview Houses in Canarsie on April 12.

He ran toward his building on E. 102nd St., but he was struck by the vehicle driven by Officer Volkan Uretener.

Robinson slipped into a coma and never regained consciousness, dying six days later of blunt impact head injuries.

The city medical examiner ruled his death an accident.

A spokesman for Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes said Thursday that the incident remains under investigation. The NYPD’s Internal Affairs Bureau was also probing allegations from witnesses that Robinson was deliberately mowed down.

Photos taken of the squad car show a large indentation on the front, left-hand side of the vehicle.

Dobbinson’s lawyer, Sanford Rubenstein, has filed a notice of intent to sue the city, and he’s warned the NYPD not to do any repairs. Any modifications to the car would be a violation of a court order to preserve it as evidence in the pending criminal investigation.

Rubenstein called the $710 bill a “disgrace.”

“In my 40 years of practicing law in this city I have never seen anything as heartless as this,” he said.

A man who identified himself as a paralegal for the law firm of Linebarger Goggan Blair & Sampson, which was hired by the city to collect the money, said he is barred by federal law from discussing the notice with anyone but Robinson or a representative of his family.

An NYPD spokesman did not return a call or email seeking comment.

Dobbinson said her family has been dismayed from the start by the lack of respect shown by the city.
As Robinson lay brain dead in Brookdale Medical Center, cops kept him shackled to his bed under police guard.

Dobbinson said she had to get permission from the NYPD to visit her son’s bedside — and was permitted to stay for only 20 minutes.

In a made-for-movie twist, on the day of Robinson’s funeral, cops broke down the door of the family’s apartment — and later acknowledged they had executed a search warrant at the wrong location. The city repaired the door the same day, according to Dobbinson.

At the time of his death, Robinson worked at a Connecticut muffin shop in Fort Greene, but also tried to make extra money hawking items, including the paving stones, to scrap dealers, his mother said.

Dobbinson suggested that instead of repairing the damaged squad car, NYPD officials should instead make sure it’s never again returned to patrol.

“Just like those officers shouldn’t be on the street, either,” she said.

Dip-s**t cop doesn't know how to ******** drive. That's my only response to this.
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It's almost like how the chinese do it. Bill the family for the Bullet.
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At 27 his parents shouldn't have to pay his debts. Dafuq.
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Tamon Robinson died in April after he was struck by an NYPD squad car during a chase in which Robinson attempted to flee from police. Now the cops want his family to pay up. Robinson’s mother, Laverne Dobbinson, was sent a bill for $710 by a collection agency hired by the city to pay for repairs to the car that struck her son. The city said it would file a lawsuit if the debt was not paid. Police allege that Robinson was caught stealing decorative stones from a Brooklyn housing project and was struck by the car — his death was ruled accidental — during a subsequent chase.

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There is no basis in U.S. law for the mother to be charged, unless he was driving her vehicle with her permission.
He was not driving at all, he was on foot.


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.....on foot???? New York City should issue a formal apology!!! And the mother should consider pursuing a wrongful death suit to a higher level court...surely there is an attorney who would take it on contingency to pursue fame (and wealth on other cases.

That is just wrong!
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City Apologizes for Billing Man Killed by Police

New York City officials have apologized for sending a collection letter to a man who was killed by a police cruiser, billing him $710 for the damage his body did to the vehicle.

Tamon Robinson died in April during a police chase in Brooklyn. Officers had caught the 23-year-old digging up paving stones, and he was fleeing on foot when he was hit by the cruiser.

Then, last month, Robinson's mother got a letter from a law firm retained by the city. It was addressed to her dead son and demanded that he pay for the damage within 10 days.

Robinson's mother tells The Daily News she is outraged.

A spokeswoman for the city's law department tells The New York Times the notice never should have been sent.


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It looks like they'll stop trying to recover for the repair bill.
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Ugh, for two reasons.
1. Half-assed source that links to the superior source on the page.
2. A person here claiming there's no information when it's right there.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mother-tamon-robinson-charged-dent-made-nypd-car-struck-son-article-1.1175484#ixzz28R3WvwzO
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TAMON ROBINSON tried to outrun cops, but couldn’t.
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Dip-s**t cop doesn't know how to ******** drive. That's my only response to this.


The NYCPD has a longstanding public relations problem based on fact. *
Thank you for the article, it is far more informative - but the original source given is limited by its nature.

On sources - MSN is a major news source but it's a quick review, where a newspaper will report in more depth than a video source, but not as quickly. If you want full information on an item, it is best to check a variety of sources. I usually use Wikipedia as a first source for background, but by its nature, it is not 100% reliable, so for permanent reference it's best to confirm facts.

This is a serious civil rights issue - our laws are far more restrictive now than during the McCarthy era red-baiting between WWII and Civil Rights/Free Speech/Baby Boomer adulthood. Only those laws are now selectively enforced or left fallow (waiting). Selective enforcement and targeting are made even more simple/effective/dangerous with the pervasiveness of electronic monitoring and the near-public nature of personal information. The campaign ad in the 2008 presidential primary election that showed Hillary Clinton in a spoof of 1984 was chilling - people didn't know how to react, it was so disturbing. More than either candidate, the underlying issues were so disturbing that people didn't want to think about it.

In 1956, television first made major impact on the U.S. Presidential race. In 2008, the internet was utilized by the Obama; campaign very effectively - and by mid-term elections in 2010, the House and Senate members were on a uniform system of websites, where in 2008 the uneven patchwork only involved maybe half of them. YouTube was also a major source in 2008. Media has changed our society. A Korean rapper became a worldwide sensation overnight from a YouTube video. Television was only the precursor, but it accelerated social change.
The shift to electronic media is comparable to the spread of the printing press enabled by the invention of metal type (durable type - wooden type didn't hold up for widespread regular use).

Along with massive technological change, our society changes, and so our legal system gets confused and clogged. We matter. This is a pioneering era.

*Other articles from MSN listed on the same page:
[urlhttp://now.msn.com/paul-pizzuto-fired-for-writing-tickets-to-dead-people
http://now.msn.com/nypd-accused-of-joyriding-in-mans-car
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Tamon Robinson died in April after he was struck by an NYPD squad car during a chase in which Robinson attempted to flee from police. Now the cops want his family to pay up. Robinson’s mother, Laverne Dobbinson, was sent a bill for $710 by a collection agency hired by the city to pay for repairs to the car that struck her son. The city said it would file a lawsuit if the debt was not paid. Police allege that Robinson was caught stealing decorative stones from a Brooklyn housing project and was struck by the car — his death was ruled accidental — during a subsequent chase.

source


There is no basis in U.S. law for the mother to be charged, unless he was driving her vehicle with her permission.


I thought about this. The article does not say how old he was.
If he was a minor then the parents would be responsible for damages the child caused.
If he was an adult then the bill could be sent to his estate, of which his mother might be the executor. Though in that case the estate would only have to pay it if it could afford it. The bill would not transfer to the parents.
Either case assumes Tamon would be legally responsible for the bill if he had lived.

Ah - very good point I missed - but state law varies on parental responsibility, I believe. Let's see if I can find anything. (The first site on the googled list required a licensed download.)

Parent; Liability Child's Act - Family Laws
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Tamon Robinson died in April after he was struck by an NYPD squad car during a chase in which Robinson attempted to flee from police. Now the cops want his family to pay up. Robinson’s mother, Laverne Dobbinson, was sent a bill for $710 by a collection agency hired by the city to pay for repairs to the car that struck her son. The city said it would file a lawsuit if the debt was not paid. Police allege that Robinson was caught stealing decorative stones from a Brooklyn housing project and was struck by the car — his death was ruled accidental — during a subsequent chase.

source


There is no basis in U.S. law for the mother to be charged, unless he was driving her vehicle with her permission.
He was not driving at all, he was on foot.


542/514on one streamer - ty.

.....on foot???? New York City should issue a formal apology!!! And the mother should consider pursuing a wrongful death suit to a higher level court...surely there is an attorney who would take it on contingency to pursue fame (and wealth on other cases.

That is just wrong!
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Well, they did issue an apology for the bill, at least. He was 27, so not a minor. I just googled his name for the info.

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