Mom accused of leaving baby in trash allowed visit

[xdivision_whitey]

A judge is allowing a goodbye visit for a Utah woman accused of dumping her newborn in a trash can to die.





Alicia Englert will have one supervised 90-minute visit with the now 3-month-old baby, Judge Elizabeth Hruby-Mills decided during a conference in her chambers Monday.

Prosecutor Robert Parrish said he opposed the visit because Englert never had a relationship with the child. The girl is in the process of being adopted by another family after the 23-year-old woman waived her parental rights a few weeks ago.

"I'm pretty sure Alicia said goodbye to the baby when she put the baby in the neighbor's trash can," Parrish said.

Defense attorney Weyher Fulkerson said in a statement the case is complicated and very sad, and the visit is separate from the criminal proceedings.

Parrish said it was granted as an exception to a no-contact order in the case.


Englert's parents said they have decided not to seek custody of the baby girl, and plan to attend the visit scheduled for Monday to say goodbye.

Robert and Tammy Englert said in a statement released through their attorney that the meeting will bring them some closure.

Englert gave birth at her home in the Salt Lake City suburb of Kearns, according to charging documents. She left the baby without food or medical care for at least a day before wrapping her in a towel and abandoning her in the trash Aug. 26, police said.

Prosecutors say the baby would have died if she hadn't been found by a neighbor who thought she heard a purring cat. The girl was inside a trash can under bags of garbage and suffering from hypothermia, respiratory distress and a blood-borne infection.

She was flown to a hospital and recovered after she was placed on a ventilator. Parrish said Tuesday the baby is doing well.

Englert faces an attempted murder charge in the case, and a review is expected to determine whether she's mentally competent to stand trial. She was released on bail in October. If convicted, Englert faces up to life in prison.

Englert's family has said she has a learning disability, didn't know she was pregnant and couldn't understand why what she did was wrong.

Elizabeth Sollis, spokeswoman for the Utah Division of Child and Family Services, said goodbye visits are fairly common for parents whose rights are terminated after their children are taken into state custody.

The visits are supervised by social workers.

I'm afriad with this visitation she'll just get attatched.

[zweet_dreamz]

It's too bad the baby can't talk, otherwise she could have told the judge to go ******** herself.
Mom already said 'goodbye' when she dumped her child in the trashcan instead of taking her to the police, child services, etc.
If she can't give a medical explnation for abandoning her child (like post partum depression), then she shouldn't have the right to see the baby.

[Pessimist]

xdivision_whitey

I'm afriad with this visitation she'll just get attatched.

I wouldn't worry too much about it since she already terminated parental rights. Though I would think that attempted murder would automatically terminate parental rights, but I suppose it still needs to be on record for the courts.

[Henrika]

zweet_dreamz

It's too bad the baby can't talk, otherwise she could have told the judge to go ******** herself.
Mom already said 'goodbye' when she dumped her child in the trashcan instead of taking her to the police, child services, etc.
If she can't give a medical explnation for abandoning her child (like post partum depression), then she shouldn't have the right to see the baby.

I think it's actually more for the parents of the mom to say goodbye to their grandchild.


I'm curious though.... if the mother really is mentally handicapped and didn't understand she was pregnant... or why what she did was wrong, it stands to follow she is also not capable of consenting to sex and I'm wondering who was responsible for raping her and why isn't he in jail/on trial as well?

[David2074]

zweet_dreamz

It's too bad the baby can't talk, otherwise she could have told the judge to go ******** herself.
Mom already said 'goodbye' when she dumped her child in the trashcan instead of taking her to the police, child services, etc.
If she can't give a medical explnation for abandoning her child (like post partum depression), then she shouldn't have the right to see the baby.

Another way of looking at this is it is part of her punishment.
Most likely for the rest of her life she will remember that visit and think about what might have been if she had not made such a horrible shitty decision.

[xdivision_whitey]

Pessimist

xdivision_whitey

I'm afriad with this visitation she'll just get attatched.

I wouldn't worry too much about it since she already terminated parental rights. Though I would think that attempted murder would automatically terminate parental rights, but I suppose it still needs to be on record for the courts.

Generally after one sign the papers terminating parental rights parents have up to 6 months to reclaim the kid. Though I do wonder about in cases of attempt of murder such as this.