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Blegh I hate it when I forget who I had a conversation with ... my stupid memory!
It is an odd truth, though, that because many game designers are male, you will see a lot a boobage. Plus, people tend to believe that gamers are automatically male, so they think of a male gamer to design a game for.

Strange, I don't find the lack of sexualized male characters to be offensive. I'm not sure why. I've found many male characters to be sexually attractive without an obvious attempt at making them sexy by the designers. I just never thought of it.

I'm still not quite offended by the mindset; it's pretty harmless. It's also something that seems to be slowly changing. I keep seeing excellent new independent games and excellent not so independent games. There are so many genres and characters. The amount of obviously sexualized women seems rather low to me, but then again I haven't done a survey of all the video games out there.

In the case of DOA, the fans asked for larger breasts. It's an odd request, but I respect it. It's a harmless thing. Why not give it to them? Besides, boobs are fun to look at.


Heh, it's okay.

I think a key difference is that I don't find it as harmless as you do, and I don't see much evidence of it changing. A big part to me is that it's not equal opportunity. It's pretty much limited to women only. And when someone does try to make a change, there's a frequent backlash, further reiterating that gaming is still, to a point, a boys-only club, and there are many who do not want to change that. It's also a very pervasive mindset that I feel frequently leaks over from video games (which are on the grand scale of things, rather harmless) into daily life.


Perhaps this is why games like Amnesia the Dark Descent and Darksiders are so popular. There is no silly "omg boobage so do you like this?" going on. It's a very ... I want to say pure game. It doesn't rely on cliches with its plot. They are as original as an art form can be (considering that originality in artwork is basically impossible, and Darksiders has a Judeo/Christian basis in it).


Oh, I freaking LOVED Amnesia, bought it and I can't wait for Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs. I do support companies that create games that don't focus so much on female sexualization, and I try not to support companies that do, hence why I didn't and won't purchase Bayonetta/DoA/etc. Unfortunately I'm just one annoyed gamer, and you essentially neutralize my lack of support by picking up those games. ;P (You are, of course, well in your rights to buy whatever you feel like, and I'm not attacking you for that, simply pointing out that one consumer can't change an industry alone)


Have you played Amnesia Justine? (possible spoiler alert!) That is one ******** up female character ... Alexander was more likable! (not going to say anymore about her for fear of actually giving out spoilers).

You should play Limbo. It's simple, perfect, and pure (not pure as in clean but pure as in lacking of the stupid stuff you might find in games). The plot is vague, but the game itself is lovely!
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Have you played Amnesia Justine? (possible spoiler alert!) That is one ******** up female character ... Alexander was more likable! (not going to say anymore about her for fear of actually giving out spoilers).

You should play Limbo. It's simple, perfect, and pure (not pure as in clean but pure as in lacking of the stupid stuff you might find in games). The plot is vague, but the game itself is lovely!


xd Thanks for not saying more since I'm in the middle of it. I had a nice big stack of chairs and stuff built up, accidentally clicked the wrong thing (protip: don't play games with a touchpad DX), it all fell over and I was too annoyed to continue at that point. I do need to get back to it.

I have heard good things about Limbo and that may be the next game I pick up since we're in a bit of a games drought until the holidays.
Meh. Whatever makes the gamers happy I guess. neutral
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No, we don't need more video games with the "overly-sexualized-female-character" stereotype. It's ostracizing the female gaming community and reinforcing sexist potrays of women.

C'mon guys, did Harley Quinn really need to wear that revealing nurses' outfit in Arkham Asylum?


I know you said not to quote this (dont kill me), but I had to since I agree with this so damn hard. Forget DoA's plot, the series is now just one giant male adolescent's wet dream. Their breasts are already as large as their heads and their outfits do the bare minimum of covering them, how over-sexualized do we need the female characters to be? Though sadly, there's little point (in my honest opinion) to ask for the boobs-in-yo'-face to be toned down, much less ask for a spin off starring all the DoA men that are stranded on an island and are playing beach volleyball. Sex sells. And boobs all over the place sells pretty damn well too. Just personally, I'd like to see game developers not have to always rely on female characters having triple-D's and porn star bodies just for their game to be a hit.
And on that note, I can already see their breast movement physics even more ******** up if they're inflated to the size of basketballs. Seriously, real life physics rules that when a woman stops moving, her breasts stop moving. In DoA land, when one of the girls stops moving, her breasts continue to jiggle uncontrollably for 10 minutes.
from 14 year old boys right?
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No, we don't need more video games with the "overly-sexualized-female-character" stereotype. It's ostracizing the female gaming community and reinforcing sexist potrays of women.

C'mon guys, did Harley Quinn really need to wear that revealing nurses' outfit in Arkham Asylum?


I know you said not to quote this (dont kill me), but I had to since I agree with this so damn hard. Forget DoA's plot, the series is now just one giant male adolescent's wet dream. Their breasts are already as large as their heads and their outfits do the bare minimum of covering them, how over-sexualized do we need the female characters to be? Though sadly, there's little point (in my honest opinion) to ask for the boobs-in-yo'-face to be toned down, much less ask for a spin off starring all the DoA men that are stranded on an island and are playing beach volleyball. Sex sells. And boobs all over the place sells pretty damn well too. Just personally, I'd like to see game developers not have to always rely on female characters having triple-D's and porn star bodies just for their game to be a hit.
And on that note, I can already see their breast movement physics even more ******** up if they're inflated to the size of basketballs. Seriously, real life physics rules that when a woman stops moving, her breasts stop moving. In DoA land, when one of the girls stops moving, her breasts continue to jiggle uncontrollably for 10 minutes.


This is marginally off-topic, but how can anyone find the freakish jiggle physics arousing? I've seen clips of the previous DoA games, and the movement is so unreal that I end up being disgusted more then anything else. It drops straight into the uncanny valley and not in a good way. Are guys just so obsessed over breasts that even when they're being presented in an almost grotesque manner, that they still find it arousing?
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This is marginally off-topic, but how can anyone find the freakish jiggle physics arousing? I've seen clips of the previous DoA games, and the movement is so unreal that I end up being disgusted more then anything else. It drops straight into the uncanny valley and not in a good way. Are guys just so obsessed over breasts that even when they're being presented in an almost grotesque manner, that they still find it arousing?


I dont even know. Sure, you can get away with working around the laws of physics when creating a character (just so long as you can do it right), but some amount of realism is required in order to make it believable and have it make sense. DoA boobs just make no sense at all. Its like each breast has its own brain and allows it to move and think on its own whenever. Ive seen plenty of DoA vids and played the games (and I stopped after the 3rd) and personally, I feel that a point has far been reached where overly-erratic breast movement is just plain unnecessary. And its just freaky.
But for a guy's point of view, I imagine that wildly flying boobies would be the best thing to stare at for extended amounts of time. The developers are likely all men and since their target audience is for the most part guys, they're going to go with what will likely appeal to their audience for sales. Scantily clad, kick a** babes with porn star bodies and tits that just wont quit.
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I've never been a huge fan of fighting games (they get repetitious fast IMO) but I don't have any problem with one having 'bigger boobs'.

Pretty much every fighting game I have seen has 'bigger everything'. Real life men don't tend to have the kind of muscles you see in those games either. While these games sometimes have people of realistic proportions most of them would stand out like circus freaks if you saw them walking around your local shopping mall. And that's without the fireballs and the giant swords.


Truth, video games are generally not meant to be any sort of realistic portrayal of people of circumstance. That's kind of the point.

However, I also think it would be nice to have some characters that don't have huge boobs and also don't look like little girls on fighting games. Just saying, that's hot to me... and if I reviewed the game and enjoyed the breast size I probably wouldn't have said anything about it either way.
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This is marginally off-topic, but how can anyone find the freakish jiggle physics arousing? I've seen clips of the previous DoA games, and the movement is so unreal that I end up being disgusted more then anything else. It drops straight into the uncanny valley and not in a good way. Are guys just so obsessed over breasts that even when they're being presented in an almost grotesque manner, that they still find it arousing?


I dont even know. Sure, you can get away with working around the laws of physics when creating a character (just so long as you can do it right), but some amount of realism is required in order to make it believable and have it make sense. DoA boobs just make no sense at all. Its like each breast has its own brain and allows it to move and think on its own whenever. Ive seen plenty of DoA vids and played the games (and I stopped after the 3rd) and personally, I feel that a point has far been reached where overly-erratic breast movement is just plain unnecessary. And its just freaky.
But for a guy's point of view, I imagine that wildly flying boobies would be the best thing to stare at for extended amounts of time. The developers are likely all men and since their target audience is for the most part guys, they're going to go with what will likely appeal to their audience for sales. Scantily clad, kick a** babes with porn star bodies and tits that just wont quit.


Lol... I know what you're talking about... I don't find it arousing per say, but it is hilarious and entertaining, much in the same way as excessive panty shots in anime.
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I dont even know. Sure, you can get away with working around the laws of physics when creating a character (just so long as you can do it right), but some amount of realism is required in order to make it believable and have it make sense. DoA boobs just make no sense at all. Its like each breast has its own brain and allows it to move and think on its own whenever. Ive seen plenty of DoA vids and played the games (and I stopped after the 3rd) and personally, I feel that a point has far been reached where overly-erratic breast movement is just plain unnecessary. And its just freaky.
But for a guy's point of view, I imagine that wildly flying boobies would be the best thing to stare at for extended amounts of time. The developers are likely all men and since their target audience is for the most part guys, they're going to go with what will likely appeal to their audience for sales. Scantily clad, kick a** babes with porn star bodies and tits that just wont quit.


Bah, I think anyone who finds that sexy should try wearing a DDD-bra outfitted with sandbags and see how breasts actually work. And experience the back pain they bring.

pinkie_mcdrinko

Lol... I know what you're talking about... I don't find it arousing per say, but it is hilarious and entertaining, much in the same way as excessive panty shots in anime.


I'm not attacking you for what you think, but why? When characters are so excessively distorted in video games, I don't find it appealing, I'm simply disgusted. To me it looks quite unreal in what is supposed to be a vaguely realistic scenario. For examples besides DoA, the men of GoW look like bizarre steroid-abusers, as does Chris Redfield in RE5, and my favorite thing to hate on, Bayonetta's legs.
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I've never been a huge fan of fighting games (they get repetitious fast IMO) but I don't have any problem with one having 'bigger boobs'.

Pretty much every fighting game I have seen has 'bigger everything'. Real life men don't tend to have the kind of muscles you see in those games either. While these games sometimes have people of realistic proportions most of them would stand out like circus freaks if you saw them walking around your local shopping mall. And that's without the fireballs and the giant swords.


Truth, video games are generally not meant to be any sort of realistic portrayal of people of circumstance. That's kind of the point.

However, I also think it would be nice to have some characters that don't have huge boobs and also don't look like little girls on fighting games. Just saying, that's hot to me... and if I reviewed the game and enjoyed the breast size I probably wouldn't have said anything about it either way.


Well, I figure I'm not the best person to judge what those kind of games should have because I don't like the genre much. I agree the breast usually seem to be at one end of the scale or the other. Little girl look or 'over endowed'.
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The franchise is getting more and more ridiculous by the game. DoA girls now fighting in bunny bikinis. I have a feeling that if there's a DoA 6, either its going to be a sex game or/and all the female characters are going to be wearing nothing but pasties and a see-through g-string.

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