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In 2008, Lisa and Anthony “A.J.” Demaree took their three young daughters on a trip to San Diego. They returned home to Arizona and brought photos of their then 5, 4 and 1 1/2 year old daughters to a local Walmart in Peoria to be developed.

That should have been that, except instead of receiving 144 happy familial memories, Walmart employees reported the Demarees to the Peoria Police Department on the suspicion that they had taken pornographic images of their children. The police, in turn, called in the Arizona Child Protective Services Agency, and the couple lost custody of their daughters for over a month.

They were shocked. “Some of the photos are bathtime photos,” Lisa Demaree told ABC News at the time, ”but there are a few after the bath. Three of the girls are naked, lying on a towel with their arms around each other, and we thought it was so cute.”

A Maricopa County Superior Court judge ruled that the photographs were not, in fact, pornographic, and a medical exam revealed no signs of sexual abuse. The girls were returned to their parents.

But the damage had been done: The couple’s named went on a central registry of sex offenders, and “We’ve missed a year of our children’s lives as far as memories go,” Demaree told ABC News.

In 2009, the couple sued the city of Peoria and the State Attorney General’s office for defamation. They also sued Walmart for failing to tell them that they had an “unsuitable print policy” and could turn over photos to law enforcement without the customer’s knowledge.

A federal judge in Phoenix sided with Walmart, ruling that employees in Arizona cannot be held liable for reporting suspected child pornography. The Demarees appealed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, and on March 6 the court held a hearing before three judges.

“The photos involved were simple childhood nudity,” the family’s lawyer, Richard Treon, told ABC News. He argued that Walmart committed fraud on its customers by not disclosing that employees would look at their photographs. Nor did customers know that employees could take photos they found offensive to their boss, who could then call the police.

“In order to convict a person of a crime of sexual exploitation of a child, you have to show that the intent of the photographer was to sexually stimulate the viewer. All the experts agree that even police officers don’t have the authority to make that decision,” said Treon. “So, we argued that Walmart was negligent in setting up this program with untrained clerks and giving them tremendous power over the lives of their customers.”

Walmart did not respond to an interview request from ABC News. But, according to Courthouse News the company’s lawyer, Lawrence Kasten, argued that under Arizona statute employees who report child abuse without malice are immune from prosecution. He added that there was no indication of malice in this case.

“I fear that what may happen after this case is [that the] employee will sit there and say, boy, if I turn these over my employer is going to spend millions of dollars in legal fees, and I’m going to get hauled in front of a deposition for eight hours, [so] maybe I’ll just stick them back in the envelope and not worry about them,” he said. ”Immunity is supposed to prevent exactly that from happening.”

It’s unknown when the appeals court will rule on the case against the city and Walmart.

I bet you the kids will have emotional issues being put in the system

Ferocious Browser

Wow ******** Walmart even more, seems that not only are the customers worthy of peopleofwalmart.com status, so are the employees.

I guess some people just never manage to grow up and learn to find subtleties and context in things. For them the world is black and white, what fail.

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Bet we'd be praising Wal-Mart if they had reported pictures that turned out to be actual child pornography. People are quick to blame if they do it and it turns out to be a false alarm but equally as quick to blame if they had turned a blind eye to a child being exploited.

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Bet we'd be praising Wal-Mart if they had reported pictures that turned out to be actual child pornography. People are quick to blame if they do it and it turns out to be a false alarm but equally as quick to blame if they had turned a blind eye to a child being exploited.


I'd rather prefer to know how many "hits" Wal-Mart's policy actually makes on child pornographers, versus the number of damage-causing false alarms.

because frankly, I don't follow the philosophy of "one ***** caught is worth traumatizing a thousand innocent families and their children."

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Really? Seriously, what constitutes pornographic to some people? Not to mention, who would dump enough to take child porn to be developed?

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Really? Seriously, what constitutes pornographic to some people? Not to mention, who would dump enough to take child porn to be developed?


the current legal metric is, I s**t you not, the "I know it when I see it" metric that's the foundation of our legal body regarding what's pornography, what's obscene, and what's protected under the First Amendment.

the ruling may have been to defend a work against an obscenity charge, but it's served as the ambiguous legal groundwork that has allowed so many families to be ruined over bullshit like this.

it really is about the debate over the approved paving stone material for the road leading to Hell, if you think about it.
Did this country forget that there is a difference between 'nude' and 'pornographic?'

And why the hell are they on the sex offender list?!? Everyone seems to agree that the pictures were not pornographic. Meaning they did nothing wrong. So why are they being punished?

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I'm gonna go delete that Youtube video of a naked baby pulling a cat into a bathtub from my history now. Here I thought it was just a kid being adorable, but it looks like I've just been a ***** all along! Man, I'd better go sue my parents for abuse, too. They have pictures of baby me crawling around naked on a bath towel. They even put it on a Christmas ornament that they hang on the tree every year! Can you believe those sickos? And don't even get me started on all those images of little cherubs. Uhg, makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about it! The people in this story need to be locked away for all time! How dare they traumatize their children in such a way? Next thing you know, they'll be sharing it with the rest of the family in their sick, twisted photo album!

In case it wasn't obvious enough, this is all sarcasm.

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Shama_okami
Did this country forget that there is a difference between 'nude' and 'pornographic?'


that sums it up pretty well, actually. see, the problem is that, in a legal sense, the difference between "art," "obscenity" and "pornography" is a matter of the perspective of judges, rather than any kind of defined metric. "I know it when I see it" is still the rule of law in these cases, so technically, there is no legal distinction between the two, unless the judge assigned the case perceives one.

Shama_okami
And why the hell are they on the sex offender list?!? Everyone seems to agree that the pictures were not pornographic. Meaning they did nothing wrong. So why are they being punished?


because they were placed on it pre-emptively, before there was a ruling, in accordance with what feminists have fought for ( presumption of guilt in matters of sex crime ), and it's damn-near impossible to get off the list once on it, mayhaps?

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Everyone should boycott Walmart.
Who takes film in to be developed any more?

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Lady Mallory
Everyone should boycott Walmart.
If/when we go to Wal-Mart after church tomorrow, I will stay in the car. I'd rather stick to the local Food Lion anyways. No electronic temptations there.

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Who takes film in to be developed any more?


Well according to the story, it was five years ago. So film wasn't quite as dead then as it is now.

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Walmart is just the latest victum of a media incited anti-pr campagn.

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