Another Innocent Black Man Slain by Cops.

[Chibi Halo]

What I think we should be focusing on is the positives that took place after the incident. The reason the news is focusing on this is because it's St. Louis and it's four miles from Ferguson. What they're focusing on, at least the news sources I'm seeing, is the fact that the people in that North St. Louis ward feel they have better representation in the local government. The Alderman for the ward where the shooting took place went out to the crowds forming and told people who were at the scene of the incident that what has been going on in Ferguson will not solve things in their neighborhood and that they are not alone in this. He told them to let the truth come out before making any judgements.

From what I've heard the voter turn out among the black neighborhoods in Ferguson was six percent in the last election whereas the turnout for black voters four miles down the road was far much better, People in Ferguson don't feel like they're being represented where as in North St. Louis they feel like they have people giving them a voice in the city government. It's kind of sad how different things are just four miles apart.

[David2074]

Keltoi Samurai

But, that's unrelated, here. This happened just a few miles from where Michael Brown was slain in cold blood. Don't you see how it's all related?

Henry Davis, Michael Brown, and now a man shot over soda? This is a systematic genocide-by-cop of young Black males, and you'd have to be racist to see it as anything else.

He wasn't shot over a soda.
He was shot for approaching the cops with a deadly weapon after verbally announcing he wanted them to shoot him. Generally a 'suicide by cop' person is likely to hurt the officer(s) he is attacking.

If it was "just the sodas" it would have been misdemeanor shoplifting.

And part of that "related" you are asking about?
It's a mostly black community with a high crime rate. Not a huge surprise there might be black suspects / criminals.
Yes, there is apparently some racism problems in that area. But that doesn't mean every time your read about a black person doing something wrong they are an innocent victim.

[Keltoi Samurai]

David2074

Keltoi Samurai

But, that's unrelated, here. This happened just a few miles from where Michael Brown was slain in cold blood. Don't you see how it's all related?

Henry Davis, Michael Brown, and now a man shot over soda? This is a systematic genocide-by-cop of young Black males, and you'd have to be racist to see it as anything else.

He wasn't shot over a soda.
He was shot for approaching the cops with a deadly weapon after verbally announcing he wanted them to shoot him. Generally a 'suicide by cop' person is likely to hurt the officer(s) he is attacking.

If it was "just the sodas" it would have been misdemeanor shoplifting.

And part of that "related" you are asking about?
It's a mostly black community with a high crime rate. Not a huge surprise there might be black suspects / criminals.
Yes, there is apparently some racism problems in that area. But that doesn't mean every time your read about a black person doing something wrong they are an innocent victim.

"Deadly weapon?" It was a knife. The cops had guns and armor and outnumbered him. Between the cops having actual weapons, body armor and superior numbers, and him just having cutlery, how can you possibly justify this?

And "mostly Black community" or not, that still wouldn't explain why Black people are making up such a large percentage of those being targeted by the police. Y'know what would, though? Racism.

And this was over sodas. He stole a couple sodas, and was shot like an animal for daring. Can you honestly say that, were it a white man stealing two sodas, they'd've shot him in the street?

Actually, I'm seeing a trend here. They shoot one man over soda, another over cigarettes . . . Maybe they're trying to be more like New York City, where such vices aren't allowed, but the fact that they're a bunch of rednecks is getting in the way, so the only way they can think to put a stop to bad habits like tobacco and sugary drinks is to publicly murder Black people who partake in them.

[Nyadriel]

Keltoi Samurai

David2074

Keltoi Samurai

But, that's unrelated, here. This happened just a few miles from where Michael Brown was slain in cold blood. Don't you see how it's all related?

Henry Davis, Michael Brown, and now a man shot over soda? This is a systematic genocide-by-cop of young Black males, and you'd have to be racist to see it as anything else.

He wasn't shot over a soda.
He was shot for approaching the cops with a deadly weapon after verbally announcing he wanted them to shoot him. Generally a 'suicide by cop' person is likely to hurt the officer(s) he is attacking.

If it was "just the sodas" it would have been misdemeanor shoplifting.

And part of that "related" you are asking about?
It's a mostly black community with a high crime rate. Not a huge surprise there might be black suspects / criminals.
Yes, there is apparently some racism problems in that area. But that doesn't mean every time your read about a black person doing something wrong they are an innocent victim.

"Deadly weapon?" It was a knife. The cops had guns and armor and outnumbered him. Between the cops having actual weapons, body armor and superior numbers, and him just having cutlery, how can you possibly justify this?

And "mostly Black community" or not, that still wouldn't explain why Black people are making up such a large percentage of those being targeted by the police. Y'know what would, though? Racism.

And this was over sodas. He stole a couple sodas, and was shot like an animal for daring. Can you honestly say that, were it a white man stealing two sodas, they'd've shot him in the street?

Actually, I'm seeing a trend here. They shoot one man over soda, another over cigarettes . . . Maybe they're trying to be more like New York City, where such vices aren't allowed, but the fact that they're a bunch of rednecks is getting in the way, so the only way they can think to put a stop to bad habits like tobacco and sugary drinks is to publicly murder Black people who partake in them.

People who have nothing to lose are far more dangerous than you think. It don't matter if it's a knife against guns. They will try to kill a cop or anyone else who is in the way if it gets them the suicide they want. These are the cowards you should not feel for.

[Keltoi Samurai]

Nyadriel

Keltoi Samurai

David2074

Keltoi Samurai

But, that's unrelated, here. This happened just a few miles from where Michael Brown was slain in cold blood. Don't you see how it's all related?

Henry Davis, Michael Brown, and now a man shot over soda? This is a systematic genocide-by-cop of young Black males, and you'd have to be racist to see it as anything else.

He wasn't shot over a soda.
He was shot for approaching the cops with a deadly weapon after verbally announcing he wanted them to shoot him. Generally a 'suicide by cop' person is likely to hurt the officer(s) he is attacking.

If it was "just the sodas" it would have been misdemeanor shoplifting.

And part of that "related" you are asking about?
It's a mostly black community with a high crime rate. Not a huge surprise there might be black suspects / criminals.
Yes, there is apparently some racism problems in that area. But that doesn't mean every time your read about a black person doing something wrong they are an innocent victim.

"Deadly weapon?" It was a knife. The cops had guns and armor and outnumbered him. Between the cops having actual weapons, body armor and superior numbers, and him just having cutlery, how can you possibly justify this?

And "mostly Black community" or not, that still wouldn't explain why Black people are making up such a large percentage of those being targeted by the police. Y'know what would, though? Racism.

And this was over sodas. He stole a couple sodas, and was shot like an animal for daring. Can you honestly say that, were it a white man stealing two sodas, they'd've shot him in the street?

Actually, I'm seeing a trend here. They shoot one man over soda, another over cigarettes . . . Maybe they're trying to be more like New York City, where such vices aren't allowed, but the fact that they're a bunch of rednecks is getting in the way, so the only way they can think to put a stop to bad habits like tobacco and sugary drinks is to publicly murder Black people who partake in them.

People who have nothing to lose are far more dangerous than you think. It don't matter if it's a knife against guns. They will try to kill a cop or anyone else who is in the way if it gets them the suicide they want. These are the cowards you should not feel for.

He had kitchen cutlery. What were they afraid of? That he was gonna cook 'em a roast?

"Oh my God he's got a blender!"
"Shoot him!"

Face it: This was another bad, racially motivated shoot. Another case of a white officer getting it into his head that he wanted to go out hunting black people, and he found one.

[Nyadriel]

Keltoi Samurai

Nyadriel

Keltoi Samurai

David2074

Keltoi Samurai

But, that's unrelated, here. This happened just a few miles from where Michael Brown was slain in cold blood. Don't you see how it's all related?

Henry Davis, Michael Brown, and now a man shot over soda? This is a systematic genocide-by-cop of young Black males, and you'd have to be racist to see it as anything else.

He wasn't shot over a soda.
He was shot for approaching the cops with a deadly weapon after verbally announcing he wanted them to shoot him. Generally a 'suicide by cop' person is likely to hurt the officer(s) he is attacking.

If it was "just the sodas" it would have been misdemeanor shoplifting.

And part of that "related" you are asking about?
It's a mostly black community with a high crime rate. Not a huge surprise there might be black suspects / criminals.
Yes, there is apparently some racism problems in that area. But that doesn't mean every time your read about a black person doing something wrong they are an innocent victim.

"Deadly weapon?" It was a knife. The cops had guns and armor and outnumbered him. Between the cops having actual weapons, body armor and superior numbers, and him just having cutlery, how can you possibly justify this?

And "mostly Black community" or not, that still wouldn't explain why Black people are making up such a large percentage of those being targeted by the police. Y'know what would, though? Racism.

And this was over sodas. He stole a couple sodas, and was shot like an animal for daring. Can you honestly say that, were it a white man stealing two sodas, they'd've shot him in the street?

Actually, I'm seeing a trend here. They shoot one man over soda, another over cigarettes . . . Maybe they're trying to be more like New York City, where such vices aren't allowed, but the fact that they're a bunch of rednecks is getting in the way, so the only way they can think to put a stop to bad habits like tobacco and sugary drinks is to publicly murder Black people who partake in them.

People who have nothing to lose are far more dangerous than you think. It don't matter if it's a knife against guns. They will try to kill a cop or anyone else who is in the way if it gets them the suicide they want. These are the cowards you should not feel for.

He had kitchen cutlery. What were they afraid of? That he was gonna cook 'em a roast?

"Oh my God he's got a blender!"
"Shoot him!"

Face it: This was another bad, racially motivated shoot. Another case of a white officer getting it into his head that he wanted to go out hunting black people, and he found one.

Uh no. It also happens with white on white. There was a rash of this (white on white) going on during the last decade. There a lot of copycats. Now it's gonna start all over again because THIS story is national news and being sensationalized.

And like I said, if they want cops to kill them that badly, they WILL go to any lengths. They dont give the cops any choice what-so-ever.

[David2074]

Keltoi Samurai

David2074

Keltoi Samurai

But, that's unrelated, here. This happened just a few miles from where Michael Brown was slain in cold blood. Don't you see how it's all related?

Henry Davis, Michael Brown, and now a man shot over soda? This is a systematic genocide-by-cop of young Black males, and you'd have to be racist to see it as anything else.

He wasn't shot over a soda.
He was shot for approaching the cops with a deadly weapon after verbally announcing he wanted them to shoot him. Generally a 'suicide by cop' person is likely to hurt the officer(s) he is attacking.

If it was "just the sodas" it would have been misdemeanor shoplifting.

And part of that "related" you are asking about?
It's a mostly black community with a high crime rate. Not a huge surprise there might be black suspects / criminals.
Yes, there is apparently some racism problems in that area. But that doesn't mean every time your read about a black person doing something wrong they are an innocent victim.

"Deadly weapon?" It was a knife. The cops had guns and armor and outnumbered him. Between the cops having actual weapons, body armor and superior numbers, and him just having cutlery, how can you possibly justify this?

And "mostly Black community" or not, that still wouldn't explain why Black people are making up such a large percentage of those being targeted by the police. Y'know what would, though? Racism.

And this was over sodas. He stole a couple sodas, and was shot like an animal for daring. Can you honestly say that, were it a white man stealing two sodas, they'd've shot him in the street?

Actually, I'm seeing a trend here. They shoot one man over soda, another over cigarettes . . . Maybe they're trying to be more like New York City, where such vices aren't allowed, but the fact that they're a bunch of rednecks is getting in the way, so the only way they can think to put a stop to bad habits like tobacco and sugary drinks is to publicly murder Black people who partake in them.

Deadly Weapon -
Yes, a knife is a deadly weapon. Many, many thousands of people have been killed with knives.
According to the FBI 1,694 people were murdered with knives in 2011. SOURCE
When attacked with a knife neither cops nor civilians are required to wait until they are maimed or killed before defending themselves just in case the attack wasn't deadly. The cops likely did not have knives and even if they did they are under no obligation to engage in a knife fight rather than using their guns to protect themselves just to make the fight 'more fair'.


Mostly Black Community -
Well yes actually, that could easily explain black people making up a large percentage of the police interactions. If you have a community that is 90% blue people and 10% green people then other things being equal it would be no surprise that 90% of arrests and law enforcement interactions were with blue people.

In Ferguson some of the numbers suggest that percentages of law enforcement interactions are disproportionately represented in terms of blacks over whites. No argument there. However that does not automatically make every black suspect innocent and every law enforcement interaction against a black an instance of racism and 'police targeting blacks'. Assuming every single black / LEO interaction is racial targeting of innocents is just as racist as someone assuming that all black people are criminals because some of them are.

Over Sodas -
(sigh) I'll say it again. He was NOT shot "over sodas". He was shot over yelling for the police to shoot him and then proceeding to attack them with a deadly weapon. And if it had been a white person attacking them with a knife I would still say the police were justified in protecting themselves.

Citydata reports 699 thefts in Ferguson, MO in 2012. That number jumps to over 1,000 if you include burglaries and auto thefts.SOURCE Statistically, just based on the population mix, the majority of those crimes were committed by black people. But you won't find record of 1,000 blacks being shot by cops in 2012. Why? Because even in towns with problems like Ferguson the cops don't run around shooting every black person that shoplifts. They would not have shot this man if he had surrendered peacefully instead of pulling a knife and rushing them. To suggest they shot him solely because he stole soda and was black is ludicrous and ignores the facts.

Ferguson, MO appears to have a problem with racism.
Using that fact to justify assuming that every white police officer is seeking any excuse to murder black people is just a racist as the folks in Ferguson who actually are racist.
This shooting should be reviewed. In most precincts any police shooting is reviewed and especially ones that result in fatalities.

But loudly proclaiming that any and every police interaction is racially motivated, even when the suspect is on video committing the crime and the subsequent attack and there are other witnesses is just racist in itself. It's like you are just looking for stuff to fan the flames and pour gasoline on an already hot topic. IMO this could have been two black cops and a white guy attacking them and they still would have been justified in shooting him.

[Hubbles Law]

Blacks are not the only innocent men that police kill.
Does anybody remember Kelly Thomas ?
No, the police (the scumbag officers anyway) are not out to genocide blacks - they're bullies with very little regard for ALL human life.