Do you think removing HoC would help with Gold Sink?!?

[Vigoureux]

Select Casey

1. Best Goldsink I came up with so far, is having loads of new expensive cool items in gaia shops that are not tradeable or listable on MP. stuff like fish, or seasonal themed clothes and stuff.

2. Another possibility for gold sinkage would be a Gaian equivalent of a Payday Loans Firm. Allowing you to "borrow" up to maybe 10 times the gold you currently have in your hand, but have to pay it back with jacked up interest.

1. To be a good gold sink, it would have to be a feature and/or item that regularly makes the user spend gold on it.

2. How I read it: "Another possibility for gold sinkage would be to bring more gold into the system." emotion_facepalm

Just to name a few possible complications off the top of my head:
Gaia already said no on banks/interest. Granted, they were talking about saving your gold and earning interest from it, but borrowing gold is an even worse idea. First case scenario: I trade my gold to a newly made mule, borrow ten times, and trade it back to my main. "I have a loan? What loan?" Second case scenario: "But we can make the gold non-tradable, and only usable in the MP" Even then, what stops them from doing the same as step one, and listing an item on their main? I just got 10 times the gold (less 2% tax)! Second scenario's side effect: "You're using your newly obtained gold to buy which items? Because the guys with 10M+ gold also used the feature and bought half of it. So, congrats! You only achieved to make inflation worse by multiplying the price of items by ten!"

[Select Casey]

Vigoureux

ok, so the second point i hadnt thought out clearly before i typed, but the first i just didnt explain fully.
They wold be regular ltd edition expensive items that you can only get in shops and cant trade or sell, but these items would be SO expensive that thw Gaians who value expense over style (ie: most of gaia) would fall for it and waste gold on ltd edtion s**t that they dont need just because its expensive and ltd.

this WILL work if done right


as a thought, it really would not be hard to query the gaia servers (if i had access to the backend user data) to find out who is a mule and set up a query to BAN accounts that do what you described in point 2. If it follows a logical process, it can be detected and insta-banned by code, should gaia desire to implement such practice. after all, muling gold is against TOS. so in actual fact, its a better gold sink than i first thought, but only IF they use it as a means to catch the professional mules and ban them

[Select Casey]

Incidentally, if you dont have the time to do this yourself Gaia, GIZZAJOB

[kitsunen]

Vigoureux

kitsunen

Sheesh, 50k a day isn't all that much in the Gold Aspect of Things anyway since it is very much time consuming before you can even earn 50k in a day.

For someone that registered in '05, thus before zOMG!'s release, you should know better about the impact of 50k less daily.

Plus, there's a glitch that allows users to get 1k essence just by starting a game, closing it, and opening the game just to lose an hour later. So, it's very easy to earn 50k in 5 hours minutes. Since HoC has no one to work on it, I'm sure it partly led to its closure.

I registered before zOMG too. Then again 10 gold per game in word bump and my sucky fishing skills didn't get me anywhere. I just earned by doing art.

Okay so let's put the 50k less daily, but what about the fun playing those games? I didn't play HoC that much but I still had fun with it from time to time. It led me to go back to gaia when they sent me the beta sign up thing.

Then again most of my questions had been answered and I already know nothing will and can be done to change Gaia's decision.

They say HoC takes more Gaia resources than earn from it. Also They don't want to take time and "waste" more resources learning the game's code so the chances of other developers being able to work it out is zero.

I'mnot upset of 50k less gold daily all that much but I'm upset that gaia introduces something good with potential and then just kills it just like that. Well I guess it won't die since its legacy would remain in FB though :/

[kitsunen]

puppylove713

If it is for a gold sink wouldn't getting rid of zOMG be the better idea? That is what gets more gold. 50K is nothing in comparison to what people get from zOMG. Not to mention you can get more from Booty Grab too. Why get rid of Heralds of Chaos? I think it is a bit unfair to keep zOMG around, but not this....

Well less 50k daily is a bonus thing in the removal of HoC. My uestions had been answered HoC takes more resources than make Gaia earn from it. That's the main reason it's being put down.

[Hzio]

well wtf, I really like playing this game. Seriously, the gold? It is because of alchemy and rare items. You can't stop that. TBH I really hate seeing items being sold for 40m. I think it's too much. But what can we do? Those items are RARE. I don't think taking this game out is the solution for that. And don't hate on zOMG btw. People still buy REVIVE, GHI AMP and other stuff. They still get money from it.

[kitsunen]

Luxscious

well wtf, I really like playing this game. Seriously, the gold? It is because of alchemy and rare items. You can't stop that. TBH I really hate seeing items being sold for 40m. I think it's too much. But what can we do? Those items are RARE. I don't think taking this game out is the solution for that. And don't hate on zOMG btw. People still buy REVIVE, GHI AMP and other stuff. They still get money from it.

yeah true i like zomg very much

[Seasfy]

Select Casey

Best Goldsink I came up with so far, is having loads of new expensive cool items in gaia shops that are not tradeable or listable on MP. stuff like fish, or seasonal themed clothes and stuff.

Another possibility for gold sinkage would be a Gaian equivalent of a Payday Loans Firm. Allowing you to "borrow" up to maybe 10 times the gold you currently have in your hand, but have to pay it back with jacked up interest.

Then you have your main give mule 1m, turn it into 10 m, buy something, pass it to main, and repeat? That won't work. sweatdrop

[Select Casey]

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Select Casey

Best Goldsink I came up with so far, is having loads of new expensive cool items in gaia shops that are not tradeable or listable on MP. stuff like fish, or seasonal themed clothes and stuff.

Another possibility for gold sinkage would be a Gaian equivalent of a Payday Loans Firm. Allowing you to "borrow" up to maybe 10 times the gold you currently have in your hand, but have to pay it back with jacked up interest.

Then you have your main give mule 1m, turn it into 10 m, buy something, pass it to main, and repeat? That won't work. sweatdrop

go back and read moar. we already covered that. catch up son!
if you did that, both accounts would be instantly banned by the servers. good bye ALL the gold all your items all your mules baibai

see, gold sink

[Seasfy]

Select Casey

Seasend

Select Casey

Best Goldsink I came up with so far, is having loads of new expensive cool items in gaia shops that are not tradeable or listable on MP. stuff like fish, or seasonal themed clothes and stuff.

Another possibility for gold sinkage would be a Gaian equivalent of a Payday Loans Firm. Allowing you to "borrow" up to maybe 10 times the gold you currently have in your hand, but have to pay it back with jacked up interest.

Then you have your main give mule 1m, turn it into 10 m, buy something, pass it to main, and repeat? That won't work. sweatdrop

go back and read moar. we already covered that. catch up son!
if you did that, both accounts would be instantly banned by the servers. good bye ALL the gold all your items all your mules baibai

see, gold sink

Then you could have 1/10th of the amount you need to make an avi, get the missing 9/10th, and just never pay it back?

[Select Casey]

Seasend

No.

Select Casey

go back and read moar. we already covered that. catch up son!
if you did that, both accounts would be instantly banned by the servers. good bye ALL the gold all your items all your mules baibai

[Seasfy]

Select Casey

Seasend

No.

emotion_facepalm
You cannot :ban: an account just because they don't pay back, just as you can't kill a person for not paying back to the bank...

[Select Casey]

Seasend

Select Casey

Seasend

No.

emotion_facepalm
You cannot :ban: an account just because they don't pay back, just as you can't kill a person for not paying back to the bank...

The account is banned for breach of TOS. Ferrying mule money is not allowed. catch up

[Seasfy]

Select Casey

Seasend

Select Casey

Seasend

No.

emotion_facepalm
You cannot :ban: an account just because they don't pay back, just as you can't kill a person for not paying back to the bank...

The account is banned for breach of TOS. Ferrying mule money is not allowed. catch up

Just borrowing money and not returning it doesn't use a mule. sweatdrop