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6. You Must be Insured

Under the new law starting in 2014, you will have to purchase health insurance or risk being fined. If your employer does not offer health insurance as a benefit or if you do not earn enough money to purchase a plan, you may get assistance from the government. The fines for not purchasing insurance will be levied according to a sliding scale based on income. Starting in 2014, the lowest fine would be $95 or 1% of a person's income (whichever is greater) and then increase to a high of $695 or 2.5% of an individual's taxable income by 2016. There will be a maximum cap on fines.


I don't agree with this at all, it shouldn't be mandatory to have health care. If you don't want health care then you shouldn't have to buy it. For one not all people even need health care. If you get sick and you can't pay for it because you chose not to get health care then its your own fault. I'm not saying it's not a good idea to have it, i'm just saying that it would be nice if it were optional.

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9. If You Earn More, You'll Pay More

Starting in 2018, if your combined family income exceeds $250,000 you are going to be taking less money home each pay period. That's because you will have more money deducted from your paycheck to go toward increased Medicare payroll taxes. In addition to higher payroll taxes you will also have to pay 3.8% tax on any unearned income, which is currently tax-exempt.


While I agree that people who make more money should pay more taxes it really isn't right to tax unearned money. In most cases unearned money is either a gift or your inheritance and the government shouldn't be allowed to tax that. While health care is necessary certain things in the US aren't. For instance our extremely expensive military that is currently fighting a war with no clear end in sight that we should never have started in the first place. Every day that war mounts billions more in debt. Why should we continue to fight this war when the people don't want us there and when it only costs us.

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While I agree that people who make more money should pay more taxes it really isn't right to tax unearned money. In most cases unearned money is either a gift or your inheritance and the government shouldn't be allowed to tax that. While health care is necessary certain things in the US aren't. For instance our extremely expensive military that is currently fighting a war with no clear end in sight that we should never have started in the first place. Every day that war gives us billions more in debt a day. Why should we continue to fight this war when the people don't want us there and when it only costs us.


I don't agree with you. This war definitely should not have been started, but to me it sounds like you think we should just abandon it. We can't go in and destroy a country, their government, and way of life, and then promptly abandon them without rebuilding what we have torn down. It is a drain, but those people over there, no matter how you see them, they are still people, and we have jacked up their country good and proper, and can't leave there until we fix what we've done.

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LtRainnAron
I like the fact that you can't be denied because of a preexisting condition. I have Asthma and have wondered recently if that was gonna prevent me from getting some coverage when the time comes.


A thirty foot pine tree recently fell on my home and gouged out part of my second story. I hope this won't prevent a homeowners insurance company from paying 70% of my repair bills once I buy homeowners insurance!

THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!
Precisely, which is why people cant get affordable treatment for these conditions privately. Hence, a National Health Service!!

Socialism is good for you biggrin


"Health insurance" is becoming less of an insurance and more of a tax. Why not call it what it is? Restructure health care away from insurance entirely? That's insane!
As insane as effectively having a tax payable to private insurance companies?

The whole thing would look a lot less dirty if you had everything; the hospitals, the tax, the ambulances being run by the State.

But do we want the federal government to have that much power?

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Jennyinabottle

While I agree that people who make more money should pay more taxes it really isn't right to tax unearned money. In most cases unearned money is either a gift or your inheritance and the government shouldn't be allowed to tax that. While health care is necessary certain things in the US aren't. For instance our extremely expensive military that is currently fighting a war with no clear end in sight that we should never have started in the first place. Every day that war gives us billions more in debt a day. Why should we continue to fight this war when the people don't want us there and when it only costs us.


I don't agree with you. This war definitely should not have been started, but to me it sounds like you think we should just abandon it. We can't go in and destroy a country, their government, and way of life, and then promptly abandon them without rebuilding what we have torn down. It is a drain, but those people over there, no matter how you see them, they are still people, and we have jacked up their country good and proper, and can't leave there until we fix what we've done.


I don't think that we should just leave the country all at once. I think that we should at least start to leave the country gradually instead of sending more men over. I know that we made a mess and now we have to clean it up. I just wish we could use less money and fewer men to do it.

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How came peole are against the healthcare bill? When peole talk to me about what it does, it doesn't sound so bad, but that is only because they are talking about the pros. Can anyone please explain to me what the cons. to this healthcare bill are please?

Read the first page. It has all the laws on it, and decide for yourself.
yeah I know and I don't like it at all!
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LtRainnAron
I like the fact that you can't be denied because of a preexisting condition. I have Asthma and have wondered recently if that was gonna prevent me from getting some coverage when the time comes.


A thirty foot pine tree recently fell on my home and gouged out part of my second story. I hope this won't prevent a homeowners insurance company from paying 70% of my repair bills once I buy homeowners insurance!

THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!
Precisely, which is why people cant get affordable treatment for these conditions privately. Hence, a National Health Service!!

Socialism is good for you biggrin


"Health insurance" is becoming less of an insurance and more of a tax. Why not call it what it is? Restructure health care away from insurance entirely? That's insane!
As insane as effectively having a tax payable to private insurance companies?

The whole thing would look a lot less dirty if you had everything; the hospitals, the tax, the ambulances being run by the State.

But do we want the federal government to have that much power?
Do we want the corporations to have that much power?

The federal government is elected by the people, I'd rather they have it than a corporation.

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