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Ruthless Consumer

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Because I'm not a socialist. Sorry if I'm selfish but my money is my own. I work for it. =/ It belongs to nobody else but me and nobody else should be entitled to what I have earned.
And yes, I have horrible health problems but I somehow have to pay for them all of my own accord. This bill will do nothing for me other than take more money from me when I'm already struggling to make it on my own.

Once you're out and on your own, you can ask "what's a little money"...


So we should be support selfish ideals, woopie. So i say i shouldn't be paying taxes for schools or highways and road repair either, i earned my money and i don't don't have kids nor do i drive. rolleyes


Go ahead and donate your whole paycheck to the well being of the country then.


Ah using logical fallacy to defend your shitty point. Alrighty, guess you concede.


Like I said, you'll understand once you grow up and get out into the real world. =3


You know not everyone is a selfish jerk, right? Plenty of people who are "into the real world" are supportive of this ( You know demonstrated by the fact that not 100% of americans hate this?), just because you have a few years working under your belt doesn't mean you're the end all of omg REAL WORLD SRS BSNS, grow up.

I was raised to care for others and i was raised knowing that no matter how much money i make i care for others. Likewise, you have no retort to paying for things people don't necessarily use already, unless you think believe the country should be a complete free for all.

Edit: Also? I don't care for the war, why the ******** am i funding that with my taxes? The US spends far more money on that then this health care or education s**t, b***h about that before you b***h about something that saves lives instead of taking it.

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I have two preexisting conditions and I got healthcare fine by myself.

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Because I'm not a socialist. Sorry if I'm selfish but my money is my own. I work for it. =/ It belongs to nobody else but me and nobody else should be entitled to what I have earned.
And yes, I have horrible health problems but I somehow have to pay for them all of my own accord. This bill will do nothing for me other than take more money from me when I'm already struggling to make it on my own.

Once you're out and on your own, you can ask "what's a little money"...


So we should be support selfish ideals, woopie. So i say i shouldn't be paying taxes for schools or highways and road repair either, i earned my money and i don't don't have kids nor do i drive. rolleyes


Go ahead and donate your whole paycheck to the well being of the country then.


Ah using logical fallacy to defend your shitty point. Alrighty, guess you concede.


Like I said, you'll understand once you grow up and get out into the real world. =3


You know not everyone is a selfish jerk, right? Plenty of people who are "into the real world" are supportive of this ( You know demonstrated by the fact that not 100% of americans hate this?), just because you have a few years working under your belt doesn't mean you're the end all of omg REAL WORLD SRS BSNS, grow up.

I was raised to care for others and i was raised knowing that no matter how much money i make i care for others. Likewise, you have no retort to paying for things people don't necessarily use already, unless you think believe the country should be a complete free for all.

Edit: Also? I don't care for the war, why the ******** am i funding that with my taxes? The US spends far more money on that then this health care or education s**t, b***h about that before you b***h about something that saves lives instead of taking it.


Wow! Someone got ugly!!
So you resort to calling names?
And I'm not exactly bitching rather than just telling the truth.
I said I'm happy for those that are gonna get their health care. Not denying people based on pre existing conditions is the only part I actually like. And I never said I didn't care about others. I donate to charities all the time. It's money that I can afford to offer up. I'm not for a huge government. Remember Jefferson's quote? "A government large enough to give you everything you want is a government large enough to take everything you have away."
Sooo... am I not entitled to an opinion over here or is Obama gonna take that away from me as well? Or maybe instead of seeing things from my end you'll just throw cuss words and names around and wonder why I don't see things from your point of view??

Ruthless Consumer

Kobayashi
AnimeJet
Kobayashi
AnimeJet
Kobayashi


Go ahead and donate your whole paycheck to the well being of the country then.


Ah using logical fallacy to defend your shitty point. Alrighty, guess you concede.


Like I said, you'll understand once you grow up and get out into the real world. =3


You know not everyone is a selfish jerk, right? Plenty of people who are "into the real world" are supportive of this ( You know demonstrated by the fact that not 100% of americans hate this?), just because you have a few years working under your belt doesn't mean you're the end all of omg REAL WORLD SRS BSNS, grow up.

I was raised to care for others and i was raised knowing that no matter how much money i make i care for others. Likewise, you have no retort to paying for things people don't necessarily use already, unless you think believe the country should be a complete free for all.

Edit: Also? I don't care for the war, why the ******** am i funding that with my taxes? The US spends far more money on that then this health care or education s**t, b***h about that before you b***h about something that saves lives instead of taking it.


Wow! Someone got ugly!!
So you resort to calling names?
And I'm not exactly bitching rather than just telling the truth.
I said I'm happy for those that are gonna get their health care. Not denying people based on pre existing conditions is the only part I actually like. And I never said I didn't care about others. I donate to charities all the time. It's money that I can afford to offer up. I'm not for a huge government. Remember Jefferson's quote? "A government large enough to give you everything you want is a government large enough to take everything you have away."
Sooo... am I not entitled to an opinion over here or is Obama gonna take that away from me as well? Or maybe instead of seeing things from my end you'll just throw cuss words and names around and wonder why I don't see things from your point of view??


I'm sorry, accusations of calling names coming from someone who likes to be condescending to others by telling them they don't know "the real world" is just hilarious, i'm surprised you're even a forum assistant.

If you can't differentiate something that helps the progress of the entire nation (such as schools, highways, roads, policemen, everything else funded by OMG TAXES) then you have no grasp of big or little government and despite having a job are poorly educated in the workings of that government. I am truly sorry our poorly funded education system failed you because your parents or who the ******** ever decided it was "big goverment".

I'm also sorry i ever looked in this forum.

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OH GOD TAXES WHATEVER SHALL WE DO THE WORLD IS GOING TO IMPLODE BECAUSE OF MINOR TAXES I CAN FEEL MY HEART NOW. WTF. WHO CARES ABOUT THE ELDERLY, PEOPLE WITH GENUINE DISABILITIES AND SCHOOLING OUR YOUTH. MY PAYCHECK!!11

If you're crying over taxes, you should probably go to another coun... oh wait a second everyone has taxes.

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Go ahead and donate your whole paycheck to the well being of the country then.


Ah using logical fallacy to defend your shitty point. Alrighty, guess you concede.


Like I said, you'll understand once you grow up and get out into the real world. =3


You know not everyone is a selfish jerk, right? Plenty of people who are "into the real world" are supportive of this ( You know demonstrated by the fact that not 100% of americans hate this?), just because you have a few years working under your belt doesn't mean you're the end all of omg REAL WORLD SRS BSNS, grow up.

I was raised to care for others and i was raised knowing that no matter how much money i make i care for others. Likewise, you have no retort to paying for things people don't necessarily use already, unless you think believe the country should be a complete free for all.

Edit: Also? I don't care for the war, why the ******** am i funding that with my taxes? The US spends far more money on that then this health care or education s**t, b***h about that before you b***h about something that saves lives instead of taking it.


Wow! Someone got ugly!!
So you resort to calling names?
And I'm not exactly bitching rather than just telling the truth.
I said I'm happy for those that are gonna get their health care. Not denying people based on pre existing conditions is the only part I actually like. And I never said I didn't care about others. I donate to charities all the time. It's money that I can afford to offer up. I'm not for a huge government. Remember Jefferson's quote? "A government large enough to give you everything you want is a government large enough to take everything you have away."
Sooo... am I not entitled to an opinion over here or is Obama gonna take that away from me as well? Or maybe instead of seeing things from my end you'll just throw cuss words and names around and wonder why I don't see things from your point of view??


I'm sorry, accusations of calling names coming from someone who likes to be condescending to others by telling them they don't know "the real world" is just hilarious, i'm surprised you're even a forum assistant.

If you can't differentiate something that helps the progress of the entire nation (such as schools, highways, roads, policemen, everything else funded by OMG TAXES) then you have no grasp of big or little government and despite having a job are poorly educated in the workings of that government. I am truly sorry our poorly funded education system failed you because your parents or who the ******** ever decided it was "big goverment".

I'm also sorry i ever looked in this forum.


And I like how you think this has anything to do with my Gaia status... rolleyes
Because it's a rule that I have to be a democrat and support everything Obama does to be a forum assistant..
Maybe you should pay more taxes so I could go back to school and learn something??
Regardless we have different views and neither of us is going to see things the way the other does so continuing the discussion is pretty useless.

Ruthless Consumer

Kobayashi
AnimeJet
Kobayashi
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Like I said, you'll understand once you grow up and get out into the real world. =3


You know not everyone is a selfish jerk, right? Plenty of people who are "into the real world" are supportive of this ( You know demonstrated by the fact that not 100% of americans hate this?), just because you have a few years working under your belt doesn't mean you're the end all of omg REAL WORLD SRS BSNS, grow up.

I was raised to care for others and i was raised knowing that no matter how much money i make i care for others. Likewise, you have no retort to paying for things people don't necessarily use already, unless you think believe the country should be a complete free for all.

Edit: Also? I don't care for the war, why the ******** am i funding that with my taxes? The US spends far more money on that then this health care or education s**t, b***h about that before you b***h about something that saves lives instead of taking it.


Wow! Someone got ugly!!
So you resort to calling names?
And I'm not exactly bitching rather than just telling the truth.
I said I'm happy for those that are gonna get their health care. Not denying people based on pre existing conditions is the only part I actually like. And I never said I didn't care about others. I donate to charities all the time. It's money that I can afford to offer up. I'm not for a huge government. Remember Jefferson's quote? "A government large enough to give you everything you want is a government large enough to take everything you have away."
Sooo... am I not entitled to an opinion over here or is Obama gonna take that away from me as well? Or maybe instead of seeing things from my end you'll just throw cuss words and names around and wonder why I don't see things from your point of view??


I'm sorry, accusations of calling names coming from someone who likes to be condescending to others by telling them they don't know "the real world" is just hilarious, i'm surprised you're even a forum assistant.

If you can't differentiate something that helps the progress of the entire nation (such as schools, highways, roads, policemen, everything else funded by OMG TAXES) then you have no grasp of big or little government and despite having a job are poorly educated in the workings of that government. I am truly sorry our poorly funded education system failed you because your parents or who the ******** ever decided it was "big goverment".

I'm also sorry i ever looked in this forum.


And I like how you think this has anything to do with my Gaia status... rolleyes
Because it's a rule that I have to be a democrat and support everything Obama does to be a forum assistant..
Maybe you should pay more taxes so I could go back to school and learn something??
Regardless we have different views and neither of us is going to see things the way the other does so continuing the discussion is pretty useless.


I like how you take one little insult to you as my entire point. And for the record, i would LOVE to pay more taxes if it meant EVERYONE got a good education. Especially if they just stopped funding the war machine so much and simply diverted some funds. So there you go.
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Like I said, you'll understand once you grow up and get out into the real world. =3


You know not everyone is a selfish jerk, right? Plenty of people who are "into the real world" are supportive of this ( You know demonstrated by the fact that not 100% of americans hate this?), just because you have a few years working under your belt doesn't mean you're the end all of omg REAL WORLD SRS BSNS, grow up.

I was raised to care for others and i was raised knowing that no matter how much money i make i care for others. Likewise, you have no retort to paying for things people don't necessarily use already, unless you think believe the country should be a complete free for all.

Edit: Also? I don't care for the war, why the ******** am i funding that with my taxes? The US spends far more money on that then this health care or education s**t, b***h about that before you b***h about something that saves lives instead of taking it.


Wow! Someone got ugly!!
So you resort to calling names?
And I'm not exactly bitching rather than just telling the truth.
I said I'm happy for those that are gonna get their health care. Not denying people based on pre existing conditions is the only part I actually like. And I never said I didn't care about others. I donate to charities all the time. It's money that I can afford to offer up. I'm not for a huge government. Remember Jefferson's quote? "A government large enough to give you everything you want is a government large enough to take everything you have away."
Sooo... am I not entitled to an opinion over here or is Obama gonna take that away from me as well? Or maybe instead of seeing things from my end you'll just throw cuss words and names around and wonder why I don't see things from your point of view??


I'm sorry, accusations of calling names coming from someone who likes to be condescending to others by telling them they don't know "the real world" is just hilarious, i'm surprised you're even a forum assistant.

If you can't differentiate something that helps the progress of the entire nation (such as schools, highways, roads, policemen, everything else funded by OMG TAXES) then you have no grasp of big or little government and despite having a job are poorly educated in the workings of that government. I am truly sorry our poorly funded education system failed you because your parents or who the ******** ever decided it was "big goverment".

I'm also sorry i ever looked in this forum.


And I like how you think this has anything to do with my Gaia status... rolleyes
Because it's a rule that I have to be a democrat and support everything Obama does to be a forum assistant..
Maybe you should pay more taxes so I could go back to school and learn something??
Regardless we have different views and neither of us is going to see things the way the other does so continuing the discussion is pretty useless.


I like how you take one little insult to you as my entire point. And for the record, i would LOVE to pay more taxes if it meant EVERYONE got a good education. Especially if they just stopped funding the war machine so much and simply diverted some funds. So there you go.

i get paid minimum wage and i cant afford my own roof to live under so i must live with other people as it is. to me higher taxes means i will be getting even less out of all that hard work i do as a house keeper.

Ruthless Consumer

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i get paid minimum wage and i cant afford my own roof to live under so i must live with other people as it is. to me higher taxes means i will be getting even less out of all that hard work i do as a house keeper.


If you get paid minimum wage (i'm assuming federal) you probably don't have insurance either and now you'll get it subsidized from the government, a small sum of money to pay for your well being.

I also thing federal minimum wage needs to be raised, good lord.
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i get paid minimum wage and i cant afford my own roof to live under so i must live with other people as it is. to me higher taxes means i will be getting even less out of all that hard work i do as a house keeper.


If you get paid minimum wage (i'm assuming federal) you probably don't have insurance either and now you'll get it subsidized from the government, a small sum of money to pay for your well being.

no, you're right, i dont get health insurance, but this bill makes me feel more threatened than happy.

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i get paid minimum wage and i cant afford my own roof to live under so i must live with other people as it is. to me higher taxes means i will be getting even less out of all that hard work i do as a house keeper.


If you get paid minimum wage (i'm assuming federal) you probably don't have insurance either and now you'll get it subsidized from the government, a small sum of money to pay for your well being.


You can also apply for housing, and even get an education if you budget right. :
Why are you only a house keeper to begin with? If you failed out of school, nearly every state has a way to get your GED. Most unemployment programs now offer basic computer classes and even certifications for little to no money to help people get back into the work field.

You're settling.

Ruthless Consumer

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i get paid minimum wage and i cant afford my own roof to live under so i must live with other people as it is. to me higher taxes means i will be getting even less out of all that hard work i do as a house keeper.


If you get paid minimum wage (i'm assuming federal) you probably don't have insurance either and now you'll get it subsidized from the government, a small sum of money to pay for your well being.

no, you're right, i dont get health insurance, but this bill makes me feel more threatened than happy.


The bill was for people like you, in the future those who suffer such low pay, and a boss or company that won't give insurance you can know you won't die if you suddenly get ill or bankrupt if you need an ambulance. Don't let the fear tactics get to you! Not to mention low wage earners are going to be taxed the least if at all.

Ruthless Consumer

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i get paid minimum wage and i cant afford my own roof to live under so i must live with other people as it is. to me higher taxes means i will be getting even less out of all that hard work i do as a house keeper.


If you get paid minimum wage (i'm assuming federal) you probably don't have insurance either and now you'll get it subsidized from the government, a small sum of money to pay for your well being.


You can also apply for housing, and even get an education if you budget right. :
Why are you only a house keeper to begin with? If you failed out of school, nearly every state has a way to get your GED. Most unemployment programs now offer basic computer classes and even certifications for little to no money to help people get back into the work field.

You're settling.


Could be situational, like the job prospects in her town are so s**t even for someone with an education, or her she was never informed that she could get help (god thats too common)

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I would go with the second option. But if she's able to figure out how to get on gaia and read things here -- I'd assume that someone would tell her she can get help or she'd try to Google about it.

When I was looking for supplemental to my Financial Aid I dug deep into the tubes of the internets to find what I needed. All it took was a little common sense. There are too many self-help sites and wiki-hows to not figure out things like that.

Just too many.

Ruthless Consumer

Dunno, you'd be surprised what people use the internet for depending on how they were raised or who their friends were.

It was crazy when i remember that although teens know how to use facebook and twitter, many still have no idea how to use google efficiently or just.. do much on the internet other than their comfort zone. Never over estimate how many people know how to use google to find things, or that people even think of looking for things on google other than school reports.

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