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M. Angel
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I'm very pleased the bill went through.
This bill will help those less fortunate from getting unfairly treated by the insurance companies. This will also keep the insurance companies for, say, dropping a three year old with leukemia because of her 'pre-existing condition.' I've witnessed this with my own two eyes, as I work at a hospital with a large pediatric unit. The child was dropped and we had to stop providing vital care. She died three days later.
The taxes will be on the very rich, the people who make 250k or more a year, so I very much doubt all the people on here who are bitching and moaning over 'taxes' really have anything to b***h and moan about, unless of course, they're all closet millionaires, in which case, you need to start paying your fair share, dammit. Bush gave you tax cuts, now it's time to pay it forward, asshats.
As for the 'abortion thing,' there is no government anywhere that would ever pay for an abortion, and the Reps not only wanted the government plan to not give abortions, they wanted
no plan anywhere, under any insurance, anywhere to help pay for an abortion. This is a severe attempt to infringe upon woman's rights and force their own agendas, which, excuse me, wasn't that what they were bitching about the Dems doing? Hypocrites.
I get health care through my work, and I will continue to receive this health care. It wasn't for me that I wanted this bill passed, it was for the people in this country that have to choose between groceries and medical attention.
Compassion is what separates us from the animals, so many people forget this. As for the people who say "they should get a job, like everyone else," I remind you of the economy and that some places are just not hiring. What then? I find it shocking so many people are comfortable with letting their fellow American die, rather than show the tiniest bit of selflessness.
I could go through all of this, but I'm getting tired and hungry, so I'll just address the bolded:
Souls are what separate us from animals. My doggie shows me compassion every day.
If you join the military, then you get benefits. If you can't get a job, then there are always options, especially if the other choice is death from no insurance.
I could argue this in two ways, first from the hard a** line that we're already suffering from overpopulation that's driving down wages and so there's really not all that much of a problem, but that would be uncharacteristically cruel. Thus, I turn to ask how I, getting nothing out of this bill while insurance companies get rich from the Americans, both through private money AND taxpayer money, is showing the tiniest bit of selflessness. It seems like a gut punch.
1) A soul? Really now? And your
dog? You're trying to apply human emotional characteristics to a
dog. I understand happiness or sadness, even anger or fear, but
compassion? I'd call pure religious fanaticism on the soul bit and pure bullshit on the dog schtick, but this is a political discussion, not a religious one, so please try to stay on topic.
2) So, you want to force the poor to join the military? Sounds rather fascist to me. It's not fair to try and force a person to be involved with an organization they abhor just to get taken care of when they are sick. A baby should have the right to health care, not denied because either his parents can't pay, or because he was born premature, and therefore have a pre-existing condition. It shouldn't be a privilege anymore, and now it won't.
3) What options? Please, provide some examples that could save a 3 year old from death? I am enthralled~
4) Proof of overpopulation driving wages down?
5) You show selflessness by not being overly cruel or judgmental to someone who only wants to fulfill his Constitutional right to a life of happiness, even if the only happiness he has is decent health.
Or, not, it doesn't really matter now.
1) Well if you're going to dispute the soul bit as "religious fanaticism" then I'll assume that you are not religious or do not hold the same religious belief as I, your choice to make I suppose. As to calling "bullshit on the dog schtick"... Yeah, pretty much, but to assume that compassion makes us different from animals and that is a viable reason to help our fellow man is really what I speak against. A call to emotional appeal or guilt-ing someone into acting shouldn't be a reason to do anything.
2)I don't want to force anyone to do anything. You merely presented a question of what an option would be if one can't get a job. I provided an answer. I very much doubt that every person without health insurance abhors to the military. They may abhor to combat, or war, or they may just not know the fact that the military can't end you to war unless it's specifically in the contract you sign, no matter which it is, it's still an option. If the choice is really do nothing and watch my baby die, or join the military, I'd make the choice in a heartbeat. The world isn't perfect, we work within the options we are given, and there are always options.
3)Well I already mentioned the one above, but you'd have to elaborate how a three year old would be on the verge of death, the parents can't pay, all non-profits dedicated to assisting children have refused them and social services hasn't already been called in.
4) Um, basic economics? A larger work force means that companies can charge cheaper for the labor that they want, because there's always someone else who wants the job that they can turn to. Why would a company accept a person at $10 an hour when there are 15 who could do the same at $8?
Another example, the US went into WWII and a huge portion of men were removed from the workplace. The women who filled the position got much higher wages because the companies didn't have enough people to do all the work. Population density directly effects wages.
5)I've got nothing against those who need medical treatment, just the assumption that it's the government that should fix said problem.
And we'll have to see. There's still another vote and there's always a chance for another Scott Brown type of upset by some unforeseen event.
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