Harry Potter Vs. Percy Jackson And The Olympians

Which series do you prefer?

Harry Potter	79.0%	[ 241 ]
Percy Jackson and the Olympians	21.0%	[ 64 ]
Total Votes:			[ 305 ]

[Javier Cross]

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

My opinion on the two books? Masterpieces, both. I love the little plots that pop up everywhere in both series that in the end all support the main plot - defeating Voldemort and defeating Kronos. I do love how J.K. Rowling created a universe all of her own; Hogwarts, Hogsmeade, Diagon Alley and such, whereas Rick Riordan (in my opinion) creatively used our own familiar world and old Greek myths to spin a tale unique to Percy Jackson and Camp Half-Blood. I think the inner strugles of both of our heroes is truly inspiring as they take the position of leaders of a new world they have just been submersed in. Harry must defeat the greatest Dark wizard of all time, the same one who killed his parents and was responsible for the deaths of many of his friends while still trying to handle all the little twists and turns Rowling throws at him. Percy must send Kronos back to Tartarus and deal with the betrayal of friends and try to keep his head level in the games the gods play with him. The sheer responsibility of being an unwanted demigod who knew that he could be the one save everyone and the responsibility of caring for his friends is also very inspiring.

Now Javier Cross, you mentioned a battle, did you not? xd

What parameters do you suggest? Harry v.s. Percy soley upon their own persons and each their greatest weapon (Harry - wand; Percy - Riptide/some other sword that would actually affect Harry)? That would be hard to discern who would come out victorious. Percy obviously has the hand-to-hand combat down pat, even if Riptide is only made of Celestial Bronze and would have no effect on Harry whatsoever. Harry would probably get pummeled to death, especially if Percy decided to whip out a hidden pocket knife or something. The favor of this particular battle would also be changed based upon where they are fighting. Near water of any kind, Percy is obviously going to have the upper hand, 2 to 1. He could probably just drown him if he wished.

Long range, Harry may have a fighting chance. Harry would also have a slim chance in the close range battle, but Percy has the fighting reflexes and would probably slash Harry before he could utter a spell. Here, Harry has more time to compose a spell, which go long distances. A sword will only reach so far, but yet again, if water is present, Percy could always try and drown him.

I also suggested to saving this sort of fight scenario for Another time, actually, so we can focus on the societies in both sides to see how far they each have evolved.

Although that said, i expect the fighting to take place at least 2-4 years after the war against Voldemort(Cross-over universe reference i have in mind, trust me, it'll make sense, later on!) so Harry has access to training from Tartarus(a variant of training from hell, i'd like to think!) in the form of Auror training.

Frankly, if i have to be honest, i find that the gods of Olympus during the events of the first story-arc of Camp Half-Blood have matured, at least somewhat, from the incidents that stared the Trojan War, but to my dismay, its as if at least half the gods are less reasonable than they were during the time of the events of the 10 years that followed the Trojan War(And Zeus' aunt Aphrodite has too little to do in the first 5 novels, for that matter, compared to what happened in The Aeneid!)

At least they have chances to focus everything right about them into a situation, while focusing all their negatives to constructive uses, do they not?

The Potter-World's societies in general, however, are another ball of wax to deal with, altogether(at least for the most part!) as not only are they in-fighting in greater extents than either the gods of Olympus or their Scandinavian rivals would have done(which is saying a lot!) but they are so un-united that they are at a major disadvantage, right there, in terms of surviving in this age.

Where else to elaborate in those regards?

Percy Jackson - I do agree about the gods. I have not actually read The Aeneid or The Iliad or The Odyssey which I am ashamed to say because I own the latter two, but I have not yet read them. My extent of knowledge of the Trojan war comes from another novel I have read...curses for me forgetting the title. It was fictional, but was during the time period about a fictional girl who befriended Cassandra, the prophet.

And yes, I must agree about the rights and wrongs of them being divided into proper entities. How...oh I forgot which book, it's been so long...that Ares's arrogantness put Percy to a battle and which helped him in his journey.

Harry Potter - Yes, there is in-fighting (purebloods vs. half and muggle borns) and good and the evil from within the Ministry, but also a lot of internal conflict just within a single character. Yes, they are un-united, but that is mostly due to prejudice and fear. I don't know about you, but I found it moving when all of Hogwarts (with the exception of Filch) banded together to rebel against Umbridge, and during the Battle of Hogwarts when everyone came together to fight the ultimate evil.

Elaboration? Um...the societal look upon our heroes?

Now if only we got to see more of the gods in terms of how they might have planned to deal with the fact that most of them have been blue-screened, apparently, but somehow that's alright, because their half-mortal children are of intrigue and need some development, as well.
Virgil wrote The Aeneid, actually.

At least(whether or not he realized it at the time!) the god of courage managed to help keep Percy alive, somehow, right?
That said, i find it awesome that he breeds out Type-A Tsundere, really. razz
Plus there's also Blackbeard.


Don't forget about some sort of social derailment that managed to occur, because aside from Salazar Slytherin's paranoia, there should be no way in any particular hell whatsoever that the Potter-World's people should go against Merlin's wishes and have some sort of social derailment in place.

At least with the gods of Olympus, most of them have been nuked with blue-screening.

Let's go with the elaborations on the societal look upon both sides, shall we?

Really? Blackbeard? And to a point, yes when he wasn't trying to beat him to a pulp if I'm understanding correctly that we're talking about Ares here.

And why not? They going against Merlin's wishes is like (to me personally) being a Christian and not going to church every single Sunday. If you ask me (and no offense if you are Christian) being Christian seems really demanding. Like, you must obey and worship God, and if you don't and if you sin, you're going to hell. Just like with Merlin. Just because he may wish it, doesn't mean that they have to. Maybe they just need an excuse every once and a while. And is social derailment all that bad? I mean, with Voldy running around and such, it may be just what they need.

Really in Percy Jackson, are we talking about the gods, or Camp Half-Blood (which the movie did serious injustice to in my opinion)?

In Harry Potter, are we looking at our foundation of Hogwarts, or the corrupt Ministry which I actually think was planned out quite well. Crumble the government from the inside whilst instilling fear of the unknown into the wizard population. Kudos to you, Voldemort.

Blackbeard is quite a formidable leader to face off or learn about, at least that much is agreed on.
Yes, we are talking about Ares, and true enough on the bloody pulp matter, as well.

Merlin is actually somewhat less strict than some Christian sects are(i am looking at you, Catholic Church!) and considering that he was the counterpart to Chiron for the Round Table, you'd think that by now, most of the Potter-World's general population would have taken constructive notes on Merlin's deeds rather than stand around and wait to die off.

Camp Half-Blood should come first, we can save the gods for later on in the thread.

The foundations of Hogwarts may come first as well, while we can also add tidbits on the Ministry until we get to the bulk of it(Besides, i am sure the U.S Ministry consists of bigger badasses in numbers, anyhow!)
Voldemort is essentially a god of terrorism, if anything, right there(if not a partial reincarnation of Satan or something like that, but i digress, again!)

[Squire sunny]

I don't know...I LOVE both!

[MeriKanne]

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

My opinion on the two books? Masterpieces, both. I love the little plots that pop up everywhere in both series that in the end all support the main plot - defeating Voldemort and defeating Kronos. I do love how J.K. Rowling created a universe all of her own; Hogwarts, Hogsmeade, Diagon Alley and such, whereas Rick Riordan (in my opinion) creatively used our own familiar world and old Greek myths to spin a tale unique to Percy Jackson and Camp Half-Blood. I think the inner strugles of both of our heroes is truly inspiring as they take the position of leaders of a new world they have just been submersed in. Harry must defeat the greatest Dark wizard of all time, the same one who killed his parents and was responsible for the deaths of many of his friends while still trying to handle all the little twists and turns Rowling throws at him. Percy must send Kronos back to Tartarus and deal with the betrayal of friends and try to keep his head level in the games the gods play with him. The sheer responsibility of being an unwanted demigod who knew that he could be the one save everyone and the responsibility of caring for his friends is also very inspiring.

Now Javier Cross, you mentioned a battle, did you not? xd

What parameters do you suggest? Harry v.s. Percy soley upon their own persons and each their greatest weapon (Harry - wand; Percy - Riptide/some other sword that would actually affect Harry)? That would be hard to discern who would come out victorious. Percy obviously has the hand-to-hand combat down pat, even if Riptide is only made of Celestial Bronze and would have no effect on Harry whatsoever. Harry would probably get pummeled to death, especially if Percy decided to whip out a hidden pocket knife or something. The favor of this particular battle would also be changed based upon where they are fighting. Near water of any kind, Percy is obviously going to have the upper hand, 2 to 1. He could probably just drown him if he wished.

Long range, Harry may have a fighting chance. Harry would also have a slim chance in the close range battle, but Percy has the fighting reflexes and would probably slash Harry before he could utter a spell. Here, Harry has more time to compose a spell, which go long distances. A sword will only reach so far, but yet again, if water is present, Percy could always try and drown him.

I also suggested to saving this sort of fight scenario for Another time, actually, so we can focus on the societies in both sides to see how far they each have evolved.

Although that said, i expect the fighting to take place at least 2-4 years after the war against Voldemort(Cross-over universe reference i have in mind, trust me, it'll make sense, later on!) so Harry has access to training from Tartarus(a variant of training from hell, i'd like to think!) in the form of Auror training.

Frankly, if i have to be honest, i find that the gods of Olympus during the events of the first story-arc of Camp Half-Blood have matured, at least somewhat, from the incidents that stared the Trojan War, but to my dismay, its as if at least half the gods are less reasonable than they were during the time of the events of the 10 years that followed the Trojan War(And Zeus' aunt Aphrodite has too little to do in the first 5 novels, for that matter, compared to what happened in The Aeneid!)

At least they have chances to focus everything right about them into a situation, while focusing all their negatives to constructive uses, do they not?

The Potter-World's societies in general, however, are another ball of wax to deal with, altogether(at least for the most part!) as not only are they in-fighting in greater extents than either the gods of Olympus or their Scandinavian rivals would have done(which is saying a lot!) but they are so un-united that they are at a major disadvantage, right there, in terms of surviving in this age.

Where else to elaborate in those regards?

Percy Jackson - I do agree about the gods. I have not actually read The Aeneid or The Iliad or The Odyssey which I am ashamed to say because I own the latter two, but I have not yet read them. My extent of knowledge of the Trojan war comes from another novel I have read...curses for me forgetting the title. It was fictional, but was during the time period about a fictional girl who befriended Cassandra, the prophet.

And yes, I must agree about the rights and wrongs of them being divided into proper entities. How...oh I forgot which book, it's been so long...that Ares's arrogantness put Percy to a battle and which helped him in his journey.

Harry Potter - Yes, there is in-fighting (purebloods vs. half and muggle borns) and good and the evil from within the Ministry, but also a lot of internal conflict just within a single character. Yes, they are un-united, but that is mostly due to prejudice and fear. I don't know about you, but I found it moving when all of Hogwarts (with the exception of Filch) banded together to rebel against Umbridge, and during the Battle of Hogwarts when everyone came together to fight the ultimate evil.

Elaboration? Um...the societal look upon our heroes?

Now if only we got to see more of the gods in terms of how they might have planned to deal with the fact that most of them have been blue-screened, apparently, but somehow that's alright, because their half-mortal children are of intrigue and need some development, as well.
Virgil wrote The Aeneid, actually.

At least(whether or not he realized it at the time!) the god of courage managed to help keep Percy alive, somehow, right?
That said, i find it awesome that he breeds out Type-A Tsundere, really. razz
Plus there's also Blackbeard.


Don't forget about some sort of social derailment that managed to occur, because aside from Salazar Slytherin's paranoia, there should be no way in any particular hell whatsoever that the Potter-World's people should go against Merlin's wishes and have some sort of social derailment in place.

At least with the gods of Olympus, most of them have been nuked with blue-screening.

Let's go with the elaborations on the societal look upon both sides, shall we?

Really? Blackbeard? And to a point, yes when he wasn't trying to beat him to a pulp if I'm understanding correctly that we're talking about Ares here.

And why not? They going against Merlin's wishes is like (to me personally) being a Christian and not going to church every single Sunday. If you ask me (and no offense if you are Christian) being Christian seems really demanding. Like, you must obey and worship God, and if you don't and if you sin, you're going to hell. Just like with Merlin. Just because he may wish it, doesn't mean that they have to. Maybe they just need an excuse every once and a while. And is social derailment all that bad? I mean, with Voldy running around and such, it may be just what they need.

Really in Percy Jackson, are we talking about the gods, or Camp Half-Blood (which the movie did serious injustice to in my opinion)?

In Harry Potter, are we looking at our foundation of Hogwarts, or the corrupt Ministry which I actually think was planned out quite well. Crumble the government from the inside whilst instilling fear of the unknown into the wizard population. Kudos to you, Voldemort.

Blackbeard is quite a formidable leader to face off or learn about, at least that much is agreed on.
Yes, we are talking about Ares, and true enough on the bloody pulp matter, as well.

Merlin is actually somewhat less strict than some Christian sects are(i am looking at you, Catholic Church!) and considering that he was the counterpart to Chiron for the Round Table, you'd think that by now, most of the Potter-World's general population would have taken constructive notes on Merlin's deeds rather than stand around and wait to die off.

Camp Half-Blood should come first, we can save the gods for later on in the thread.

The foundations of Hogwarts may come first as well, while we can also add tidbits on the Ministry until we get to the bulk of it(Besides, i am sure the U.S Ministry consists of bigger badasses in numbers, anyhow!)
Voldemort is essentially a god of terrorism, if anything, right there(if not a partial reincarnation of Satan or something like that, but i digress, again!)

Besides actually liking the character Percy as a whole person, I entertain the idea of seeing him beaten to a bloody pulp.

As for the Catholic Church, are we talking about oh, the Middle Ages here? Excommunicating people and the burnings at stake? Or perhaps the witch hunts?
And true, they could actually try and do something productive, perhaps help Potter against Voldemort and not just sit around and let their children die (those who stayed and fought at the Battle of Hogwarts).
And I must agree on the god of terrorism thing, but good thing he isn't around, otherwise he'd make everyone call him the Dark Lord Voldemort, Almighty God of Terrorism. And perhaps if not a reincarnation, a descendant if that is possible?

I think we might also want to construct the outline of the Hogwarts and Camp Half-Blood societalities (if that is even a word xp ) just so we know what we're working with here.

[Javier Cross]

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

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MeriKanne

Percy Jackson - I do agree about the gods. I have not actually read The Aeneid or The Iliad or The Odyssey which I am ashamed to say because I own the latter two, but I have not yet read them. My extent of knowledge of the Trojan war comes from another novel I have read...curses for me forgetting the title. It was fictional, but was during the time period about a fictional girl who befriended Cassandra, the prophet.

And yes, I must agree about the rights and wrongs of them being divided into proper entities. How...oh I forgot which book, it's been so long...that Ares's arrogantness put Percy to a battle and which helped him in his journey.

Harry Potter - Yes, there is in-fighting (purebloods vs. half and muggle borns) and good and the evil from within the Ministry, but also a lot of internal conflict just within a single character. Yes, they are un-united, but that is mostly due to prejudice and fear. I don't know about you, but I found it moving when all of Hogwarts (with the exception of Filch) banded together to rebel against Umbridge, and during the Battle of Hogwarts when everyone came together to fight the ultimate evil.

Elaboration? Um...the societal look upon our heroes?

Now if only we got to see more of the gods in terms of how they might have planned to deal with the fact that most of them have been blue-screened, apparently, but somehow that's alright, because their half-mortal children are of intrigue and need some development, as well.
Virgil wrote The Aeneid, actually.

At least(whether or not he realized it at the time!) the god of courage managed to help keep Percy alive, somehow, right?
That said, i find it awesome that he breeds out Type-A Tsundere, really. razz
Plus there's also Blackbeard.


Don't forget about some sort of social derailment that managed to occur, because aside from Salazar Slytherin's paranoia, there should be no way in any particular hell whatsoever that the Potter-World's people should go against Merlin's wishes and have some sort of social derailment in place.

At least with the gods of Olympus, most of them have been nuked with blue-screening.

Let's go with the elaborations on the societal look upon both sides, shall we?

Really? Blackbeard? And to a point, yes when he wasn't trying to beat him to a pulp if I'm understanding correctly that we're talking about Ares here.

And why not? They going against Merlin's wishes is like (to me personally) being a Christian and not going to church every single Sunday. If you ask me (and no offense if you are Christian) being Christian seems really demanding. Like, you must obey and worship God, and if you don't and if you sin, you're going to hell. Just like with Merlin. Just because he may wish it, doesn't mean that they have to. Maybe they just need an excuse every once and a while. And is social derailment all that bad? I mean, with Voldy running around and such, it may be just what they need.

Really in Percy Jackson, are we talking about the gods, or Camp Half-Blood (which the movie did serious injustice to in my opinion)?

In Harry Potter, are we looking at our foundation of Hogwarts, or the corrupt Ministry which I actually think was planned out quite well. Crumble the government from the inside whilst instilling fear of the unknown into the wizard population. Kudos to you, Voldemort.

Blackbeard is quite a formidable leader to face off or learn about, at least that much is agreed on.
Yes, we are talking about Ares, and true enough on the bloody pulp matter, as well.

Merlin is actually somewhat less strict than some Christian sects are(i am looking at you, Catholic Church!) and considering that he was the counterpart to Chiron for the Round Table, you'd think that by now, most of the Potter-World's general population would have taken constructive notes on Merlin's deeds rather than stand around and wait to die off.

Camp Half-Blood should come first, we can save the gods for later on in the thread.

The foundations of Hogwarts may come first as well, while we can also add tidbits on the Ministry until we get to the bulk of it(Besides, i am sure the U.S Ministry consists of bigger badasses in numbers, anyhow!)
Voldemort is essentially a god of terrorism, if anything, right there(if not a partial reincarnation of Satan or something like that, but i digress, again!)

Besides actually liking the character Percy as a whole person, I entertain the idea of seeing him beaten to a bloody pulp.

As for the Catholic Church, are we talking about oh, the Middle Ages here? Excommunicating people and the burnings at stake? Or perhaps the witch hunts?
And true, they could actually try and do something productive, perhaps help Potter against Voldemort and not just sit around and let their children die (those who stayed and fought at the Battle of Hogwarts).
And I must agree on the god of terrorism thing, but good thing he isn't around, otherwise he'd make everyone call him the Dark Lord Voldemort, Almighty God of Terrorism. And perhaps if not a reincarnation, a descendant if that is possible?

I think we might also want to construct the outline of the Hogwarts and Camp Half-Blood societalities (if that is even a word xp ) just so we know what we're working with here.

Don't worry, i hear of people who may like Sir Galahad, but would like to imagine him getting beaten to a bloody pulp, at least once in my life(i lost count on how many, but they were very rare, let's settle for that!)

I meant to speak of the skeletons in the Catholic Church's closet, in particular, which helped to get us to the mess we are at, now(Not to mention a lot of the corrupt ones among its members are far worse than any of the gods at their worse moments combined, but i digress, again!)

That said, a better comparison with Merlin's policies would be with trying to be religiously or racially tolerant, in which the Potter-World is generally failing miserably on such grounds, really.

Let's be glad that The God-King(300 Reference!) was slain by his relative, Mr. Potter(and the Furies apparently permitted that one!) or else we'd be in a very bloody war that's even worse than the one we are in.

Do you want to start off with Hogwarts and its apparent lack of unity while i try to cover the levels of unity in Camp Half-Blood(for the most part, and in better containment with distrust, too?)

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[MeriKanne]

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MeriKanne

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MeriKanne

Percy Jackson - I do agree about the gods. I have not actually read The Aeneid or The Iliad or The Odyssey which I am ashamed to say because I own the latter two, but I have not yet read them. My extent of knowledge of the Trojan war comes from another novel I have read...curses for me forgetting the title. It was fictional, but was during the time period about a fictional girl who befriended Cassandra, the prophet.

And yes, I must agree about the rights and wrongs of them being divided into proper entities. How...oh I forgot which book, it's been so long...that Ares's arrogantness put Percy to a battle and which helped him in his journey.

Harry Potter - Yes, there is in-fighting (purebloods vs. half and muggle borns) and good and the evil from within the Ministry, but also a lot of internal conflict just within a single character. Yes, they are un-united, but that is mostly due to prejudice and fear. I don't know about you, but I found it moving when all of Hogwarts (with the exception of Filch) banded together to rebel against Umbridge, and during the Battle of Hogwarts when everyone came together to fight the ultimate evil.

Elaboration? Um...the societal look upon our heroes?

Now if only we got to see more of the gods in terms of how they might have planned to deal with the fact that most of them have been blue-screened, apparently, but somehow that's alright, because their half-mortal children are of intrigue and need some development, as well.
Virgil wrote The Aeneid, actually.

At least(whether or not he realized it at the time!) the god of courage managed to help keep Percy alive, somehow, right?
That said, i find it awesome that he breeds out Type-A Tsundere, really. razz
Plus there's also Blackbeard.


Don't forget about some sort of social derailment that managed to occur, because aside from Salazar Slytherin's paranoia, there should be no way in any particular hell whatsoever that the Potter-World's people should go against Merlin's wishes and have some sort of social derailment in place.

At least with the gods of Olympus, most of them have been nuked with blue-screening.

Let's go with the elaborations on the societal look upon both sides, shall we?

Really? Blackbeard? And to a point, yes when he wasn't trying to beat him to a pulp if I'm understanding correctly that we're talking about Ares here.

And why not? They going against Merlin's wishes is like (to me personally) being a Christian and not going to church every single Sunday. If you ask me (and no offense if you are Christian) being Christian seems really demanding. Like, you must obey and worship God, and if you don't and if you sin, you're going to hell. Just like with Merlin. Just because he may wish it, doesn't mean that they have to. Maybe they just need an excuse every once and a while. And is social derailment all that bad? I mean, with Voldy running around and such, it may be just what they need.

Really in Percy Jackson, are we talking about the gods, or Camp Half-Blood (which the movie did serious injustice to in my opinion)?

In Harry Potter, are we looking at our foundation of Hogwarts, or the corrupt Ministry which I actually think was planned out quite well. Crumble the government from the inside whilst instilling fear of the unknown into the wizard population. Kudos to you, Voldemort.

Blackbeard is quite a formidable leader to face off or learn about, at least that much is agreed on.
Yes, we are talking about Ares, and true enough on the bloody pulp matter, as well.

Merlin is actually somewhat less strict than some Christian sects are(i am looking at you, Catholic Church!) and considering that he was the counterpart to Chiron for the Round Table, you'd think that by now, most of the Potter-World's general population would have taken constructive notes on Merlin's deeds rather than stand around and wait to die off.

Camp Half-Blood should come first, we can save the gods for later on in the thread.

The foundations of Hogwarts may come first as well, while we can also add tidbits on the Ministry until we get to the bulk of it(Besides, i am sure the U.S Ministry consists of bigger badasses in numbers, anyhow!)
Voldemort is essentially a god of terrorism, if anything, right there(if not a partial reincarnation of Satan or something like that, but i digress, again!)

Besides actually liking the character Percy as a whole person, I entertain the idea of seeing him beaten to a bloody pulp.

As for the Catholic Church, are we talking about oh, the Middle Ages here? Excommunicating people and the burnings at stake? Or perhaps the witch hunts?
And true, they could actually try and do something productive, perhaps help Potter against Voldemort and not just sit around and let their children die (those who stayed and fought at the Battle of Hogwarts).
And I must agree on the god of terrorism thing, but good thing he isn't around, otherwise he'd make everyone call him the Dark Lord Voldemort, Almighty God of Terrorism. And perhaps if not a reincarnation, a descendant if that is possible?

I think we might also want to construct the outline of the Hogwarts and Camp Half-Blood societalities (if that is even a word xp ) just so we know what we're working with here.

Don't worry, i hear of people who may like Sir Galahad, but would like to imagine him getting beaten to a bloody pulp, at least once in my life(i lost count on how many, but they were very rare, let's settle for that!)

I meant to speak of the skeletons in the Catholic Church's closet, in particular, which helped to get us to the mess we are at, now(Not to mention a lot of the corrupt ones among its members are far worse than any of the gods at their worse moments combined, but i digress, again!)

That said, a better comparison with Merlin's policies would be with trying to be religiously or racially tolerant, in which the Potter-World is generally failing miserably on such grounds, really.

Let's be glad that The God-King(300 Reference!) was slain by his relative, Mr. Potter(and the Furies apparently permitted that one!) or else we'd be in a very bloody war that's even worse than the one we are in.

Do you want to start off with Hogwarts and its apparent lack of unity while i try to cover the levels of unity in Camp Half-Blood(for the most part, and in better containment with distrust, too?)

Well, the religious and racially tolerant lack of people in the HP universe is sorta what makes it work. I mean, not so much perhaps racial and religious, but pure-blodd supremecy and what not. I mean, stuff like that is everywhere in everyday life and if J.K. Rowling failed to awknowledge this in the HP universe, it wouldn't be the same. Plus, there would be hardly any support for the motives behind Salazar Slytherin, the Malfoys, Death Eaters, and Voldemort. I mean, it would've been the perfect wizarding universe if everyone had treated everyone else like equals, but the fact that they fail at this and keep their prejudices is what makes it more real (despite the fact that it's about wizards with lighting bolt shaped scars running around England).

And I shall try, although I must say that in certain instances the Hogwarts population (with the exception of those lovely Slytherins) did band together to fight a greater, common enemy (Umbridge and Voldemort).
I think the fact that they separate the students into the Houses (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Slytherin) is just a set up for....well, definately not inter-House Unity. Because the Sorting Hat is so adept at sorting out kids by their personalities into the different Houses, they are instantly introduced into a segregated community. I guess it is just so they can fit in with others sharing traits, but by putting these First Years with the older students who have grown with idealistic views of the other Houses, the First Years are just going to carry this on, and not even try to prove different because they are young and will follow the older students.

Like, the Gryffindors will put in their heads that Slytherins are the making of evil wizards, or Death Eaters, and they are not to be trusted, just because of what House they are in. Not all Slytherins turned out bad (Snape, Regulus) and most of them did get that way because the students from the other Houses labeled them so, so they figured they would have to live up to it. So by Sorting these children, you're just setting them up for stereotypes and labels, which is not good, especially if those labels cross with other Houses, separating them.

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Really? Blackbeard? And to a point, yes when he wasn't trying to beat him to a pulp if I'm understanding correctly that we're talking about Ares here.

And why not? They going against Merlin's wishes is like (to me personally) being a Christian and not going to church every single Sunday. If you ask me (and no offense if you are Christian) being Christian seems really demanding. Like, you must obey and worship God, and if you don't and if you sin, you're going to hell. Just like with Merlin. Just because he may wish it, doesn't mean that they have to. Maybe they just need an excuse every once and a while. And is social derailment all that bad? I mean, with Voldy running around and such, it may be just what they need.

Really in Percy Jackson, are we talking about the gods, or Camp Half-Blood (which the movie did serious injustice to in my opinion)?

In Harry Potter, are we looking at our foundation of Hogwarts, or the corrupt Ministry which I actually think was planned out quite well. Crumble the government from the inside whilst instilling fear of the unknown into the wizard population. Kudos to you, Voldemort.

Blackbeard is quite a formidable leader to face off or learn about, at least that much is agreed on.
Yes, we are talking about Ares, and true enough on the bloody pulp matter, as well.

Merlin is actually somewhat less strict than some Christian sects are(i am looking at you, Catholic Church!) and considering that he was the counterpart to Chiron for the Round Table, you'd think that by now, most of the Potter-World's general population would have taken constructive notes on Merlin's deeds rather than stand around and wait to die off.

Camp Half-Blood should come first, we can save the gods for later on in the thread.

The foundations of Hogwarts may come first as well, while we can also add tidbits on the Ministry until we get to the bulk of it(Besides, i am sure the U.S Ministry consists of bigger badasses in numbers, anyhow!)
Voldemort is essentially a god of terrorism, if anything, right there(if not a partial reincarnation of Satan or something like that, but i digress, again!)

Besides actually liking the character Percy as a whole person, I entertain the idea of seeing him beaten to a bloody pulp.

As for the Catholic Church, are we talking about oh, the Middle Ages here? Excommunicating people and the burnings at stake? Or perhaps the witch hunts?
And true, they could actually try and do something productive, perhaps help Potter against Voldemort and not just sit around and let their children die (those who stayed and fought at the Battle of Hogwarts).
And I must agree on the god of terrorism thing, but good thing he isn't around, otherwise he'd make everyone call him the Dark Lord Voldemort, Almighty God of Terrorism. And perhaps if not a reincarnation, a descendant if that is possible?

I think we might also want to construct the outline of the Hogwarts and Camp Half-Blood societalities (if that is even a word xp ) just so we know what we're working with here.

Don't worry, i hear of people who may like Sir Galahad, but would like to imagine him getting beaten to a bloody pulp, at least once in my life(i lost count on how many, but they were very rare, let's settle for that!)

I meant to speak of the skeletons in the Catholic Church's closet, in particular, which helped to get us to the mess we are at, now(Not to mention a lot of the corrupt ones among its members are far worse than any of the gods at their worse moments combined, but i digress, again!)

That said, a better comparison with Merlin's policies would be with trying to be religiously or racially tolerant, in which the Potter-World is generally failing miserably on such grounds, really.

Let's be glad that The God-King(300 Reference!) was slain by his relative, Mr. Potter(and the Furies apparently permitted that one!) or else we'd be in a very bloody war that's even worse than the one we are in.

Do you want to start off with Hogwarts and its apparent lack of unity while i try to cover the levels of unity in Camp Half-Blood(for the most part, and in better containment with distrust, too?)

Well, the religious and racially tolerant lack of people in the HP universe is sorta what makes it work. I mean, not so much perhaps racial and religious, but pure-blodd supremecy and what not. I mean, stuff like that is everywhere in everyday life and if J.K. Rowling failed to awknowledge this in the HP universe, it wouldn't be the same. Plus, there would be hardly any support for the motives behind Salazar Slytherin, the Malfoys, Death Eaters, and Voldemort. I mean, it would've been the perfect wizarding universe if everyone had treated everyone else like equals, but the fact that they fail at this and keep their prejudices is what makes it more real (despite the fact that it's about wizards with lighting bolt shaped scars running around England).

And I shall try, although I must say that in certain instances the Hogwarts population (with the exception of those lovely Slytherins) did band together to fight a greater, common enemy (Umbridge and Voldemort).
I think the fact that they separate the students into the Houses (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Slytherin) is just a set up for....well, definately not inter-House Unity. Because the Sorting Hat is so adept at sorting out kids by their personalities into the different Houses, they are instantly introduced into a segregated community. I guess it is just so they can fit in with others sharing traits, but by putting these First Years with the older students who have grown with idealistic views of the other Houses, the First Years are just going to carry this on, and not even try to prove different because they are young and will follow the older students.

Like, the Gryffindors will put in their heads that Slytherins are the making of evil wizards, or Death Eaters, and they are not to be trusted, just because of what House they are in. Not all Slytherins turned out bad (Snape, Regulus) and most of them did get that way because the students from the other Houses labeled them so, so they figured they would have to live up to it. So by Sorting these children, you're just setting them up for stereotypes and labels, which is not good, especially if those labels cross with other Houses, separating them.

Its not like that matter is ignored altogether with Camp Half-Blood or the rest of the forces of Olympus, either(its just less discussed and divided into loyalist creatures and creatures sworn to Tartarus and the like!) if anything its been restrained until the bursts of unleashing is fired upon.
At least Slytherin had a point when it came to his paranoia, too bad his descendants missed out on said justifications behind the point. >_>
I am not asking for a perfect universe, i am asking for a universe that is prepared to fight for its life and will not die lightly, is that wrong?

That said, if anything i can stand the cabin systems in Camp Half-Blood and its allies from the same segmented sub-factions in the forces of Olympus, because no matter what other cabins may feel about each other, all of them would deal with it by taking it to Capture the Flag or unite in a life-or-death battle against a common foe(granted, there are exceptions to the rules, but frankly they are too few and far between!)

The Gryffindors were actually trying to stay loyal to their founder's ideals(which are justified if Merlin's deeds before the founders proved anything!) and yes, Regulus and Snape deserve more kudos in that regard, for that matter(although Regulus reminds me of the two sub-zero brothers from Mortal Kombat, funny enough!)

What about the regards to the Veelas?
Frankly i'd like to see some of Aphrodite's daughters and granddaughters allow the bi-girls among them to make-out with Veelas that are also bi, but i digress and i am not even sure if that's allowed. razz

[MeriKanne]

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MeriKanne

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MeriKanne

Really? Blackbeard? And to a point, yes when he wasn't trying to beat him to a pulp if I'm understanding correctly that we're talking about Ares here.

And why not? They going against Merlin's wishes is like (to me personally) being a Christian and not going to church every single Sunday. If you ask me (and no offense if you are Christian) being Christian seems really demanding. Like, you must obey and worship God, and if you don't and if you sin, you're going to hell. Just like with Merlin. Just because he may wish it, doesn't mean that they have to. Maybe they just need an excuse every once and a while. And is social derailment all that bad? I mean, with Voldy running around and such, it may be just what they need.

Really in Percy Jackson, are we talking about the gods, or Camp Half-Blood (which the movie did serious injustice to in my opinion)?

In Harry Potter, are we looking at our foundation of Hogwarts, or the corrupt Ministry which I actually think was planned out quite well. Crumble the government from the inside whilst instilling fear of the unknown into the wizard population. Kudos to you, Voldemort.

Blackbeard is quite a formidable leader to face off or learn about, at least that much is agreed on.
Yes, we are talking about Ares, and true enough on the bloody pulp matter, as well.

Merlin is actually somewhat less strict than some Christian sects are(i am looking at you, Catholic Church!) and considering that he was the counterpart to Chiron for the Round Table, you'd think that by now, most of the Potter-World's general population would have taken constructive notes on Merlin's deeds rather than stand around and wait to die off.

Camp Half-Blood should come first, we can save the gods for later on in the thread.

The foundations of Hogwarts may come first as well, while we can also add tidbits on the Ministry until we get to the bulk of it(Besides, i am sure the U.S Ministry consists of bigger badasses in numbers, anyhow!)
Voldemort is essentially a god of terrorism, if anything, right there(if not a partial reincarnation of Satan or something like that, but i digress, again!)

Besides actually liking the character Percy as a whole person, I entertain the idea of seeing him beaten to a bloody pulp.

As for the Catholic Church, are we talking about oh, the Middle Ages here? Excommunicating people and the burnings at stake? Or perhaps the witch hunts?
And true, they could actually try and do something productive, perhaps help Potter against Voldemort and not just sit around and let their children die (those who stayed and fought at the Battle of Hogwarts).
And I must agree on the god of terrorism thing, but good thing he isn't around, otherwise he'd make everyone call him the Dark Lord Voldemort, Almighty God of Terrorism. And perhaps if not a reincarnation, a descendant if that is possible?

I think we might also want to construct the outline of the Hogwarts and Camp Half-Blood societalities (if that is even a word xp ) just so we know what we're working with here.

Don't worry, i hear of people who may like Sir Galahad, but would like to imagine him getting beaten to a bloody pulp, at least once in my life(i lost count on how many, but they were very rare, let's settle for that!)

I meant to speak of the skeletons in the Catholic Church's closet, in particular, which helped to get us to the mess we are at, now(Not to mention a lot of the corrupt ones among its members are far worse than any of the gods at their worse moments combined, but i digress, again!)

That said, a better comparison with Merlin's policies would be with trying to be religiously or racially tolerant, in which the Potter-World is generally failing miserably on such grounds, really.

Let's be glad that The God-King(300 Reference!) was slain by his relative, Mr. Potter(and the Furies apparently permitted that one!) or else we'd be in a very bloody war that's even worse than the one we are in.

Do you want to start off with Hogwarts and its apparent lack of unity while i try to cover the levels of unity in Camp Half-Blood(for the most part, and in better containment with distrust, too?)

Well, the religious and racially tolerant lack of people in the HP universe is sorta what makes it work. I mean, not so much perhaps racial and religious, but pure-blodd supremecy and what not. I mean, stuff like that is everywhere in everyday life and if J.K. Rowling failed to awknowledge this in the HP universe, it wouldn't be the same. Plus, there would be hardly any support for the motives behind Salazar Slytherin, the Malfoys, Death Eaters, and Voldemort. I mean, it would've been the perfect wizarding universe if everyone had treated everyone else like equals, but the fact that they fail at this and keep their prejudices is what makes it more real (despite the fact that it's about wizards with lighting bolt shaped scars running around England).

And I shall try, although I must say that in certain instances the Hogwarts population (with the exception of those lovely Slytherins) did band together to fight a greater, common enemy (Umbridge and Voldemort).
I think the fact that they separate the students into the Houses (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Slytherin) is just a set up for....well, definately not inter-House Unity. Because the Sorting Hat is so adept at sorting out kids by their personalities into the different Houses, they are instantly introduced into a segregated community. I guess it is just so they can fit in with others sharing traits, but by putting these First Years with the older students who have grown with idealistic views of the other Houses, the First Years are just going to carry this on, and not even try to prove different because they are young and will follow the older students.

Like, the Gryffindors will put in their heads that Slytherins are the making of evil wizards, or Death Eaters, and they are not to be trusted, just because of what House they are in. Not all Slytherins turned out bad (Snape, Regulus) and most of them did get that way because the students from the other Houses labeled them so, so they figured they would have to live up to it. So by Sorting these children, you're just setting them up for stereotypes and labels, which is not good, especially if those labels cross with other Houses, separating them.

Its not like that matter is ignored altogether with Camp Half-Blood or the rest of the forces of Olympus, either(its just less discussed and divided into loyalist creatures and creatures sworn to Tartarus and the like!) if anything its been restrained until the bursts of unleashing is fired upon.
At least Slytherin had a point when it came to his paranoia, too bad his descendants missed out on said justifications behind the point. >_>
I am not asking for a perfect universe, i am asking for a universe that is prepared to fight for its life and will not die lightly, is that wrong?

That said, if anything i can stand the cabin systems in Camp Half-Blood and its allies from the same segmented sub-factions in the forces of Olympus, because no matter what other cabins may feel about each other, all of them would deal with it by taking it to Capture the Flag or unite in a life-or-death battle against a common foe(granted, there are exceptions to the rules, but frankly they are too few and far between!)

The Gryffindors were actually trying to stay loyal to their founder's ideals(which are justified if Merlin's deeds before the founders proved anything!) and yes, Regulus and Snape deserve more kudos in that regard, for that matter(although Regulus reminds me of the two sub-zero brothers from Mortal Kombat, funny enough!)

What about the regards to the Veelas?
Frankly i'd like to see some of Aphrodite's daughters and granddaughters allow the bi-girls among them to make-out with Veelas that are also bi, but i digress and i am not even sure if that's allowed. razz

Veelas? I don't know much about veela's except that Fleur is 1/4 of one. stare
And hey, who say's it's not allowed? But who would make the first move? Now that's debatable.

[Javier Cross]

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Besides actually liking the character Percy as a whole person, I entertain the idea of seeing him beaten to a bloody pulp.

As for the Catholic Church, are we talking about oh, the Middle Ages here? Excommunicating people and the burnings at stake? Or perhaps the witch hunts?
And true, they could actually try and do something productive, perhaps help Potter against Voldemort and not just sit around and let their children die (those who stayed and fought at the Battle of Hogwarts).
And I must agree on the god of terrorism thing, but good thing he isn't around, otherwise he'd make everyone call him the Dark Lord Voldemort, Almighty God of Terrorism. And perhaps if not a reincarnation, a descendant if that is possible?

I think we might also want to construct the outline of the Hogwarts and Camp Half-Blood societalities (if that is even a word xp ) just so we know what we're working with here.

Don't worry, i hear of people who may like Sir Galahad, but would like to imagine him getting beaten to a bloody pulp, at least once in my life(i lost count on how many, but they were very rare, let's settle for that!)

I meant to speak of the skeletons in the Catholic Church's closet, in particular, which helped to get us to the mess we are at, now(Not to mention a lot of the corrupt ones among its members are far worse than any of the gods at their worse moments combined, but i digress, again!)

That said, a better comparison with Merlin's policies would be with trying to be religiously or racially tolerant, in which the Potter-World is generally failing miserably on such grounds, really.

Let's be glad that The God-King(300 Reference!) was slain by his relative, Mr. Potter(and the Furies apparently permitted that one!) or else we'd be in a very bloody war that's even worse than the one we are in.

Do you want to start off with Hogwarts and its apparent lack of unity while i try to cover the levels of unity in Camp Half-Blood(for the most part, and in better containment with distrust, too?)

Well, the religious and racially tolerant lack of people in the HP universe is sorta what makes it work. I mean, not so much perhaps racial and religious, but pure-blodd supremecy and what not. I mean, stuff like that is everywhere in everyday life and if J.K. Rowling failed to awknowledge this in the HP universe, it wouldn't be the same. Plus, there would be hardly any support for the motives behind Salazar Slytherin, the Malfoys, Death Eaters, and Voldemort. I mean, it would've been the perfect wizarding universe if everyone had treated everyone else like equals, but the fact that they fail at this and keep their prejudices is what makes it more real (despite the fact that it's about wizards with lighting bolt shaped scars running around England).

And I shall try, although I must say that in certain instances the Hogwarts population (with the exception of those lovely Slytherins) did band together to fight a greater, common enemy (Umbridge and Voldemort).
I think the fact that they separate the students into the Houses (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Slytherin) is just a set up for....well, definately not inter-House Unity. Because the Sorting Hat is so adept at sorting out kids by their personalities into the different Houses, they are instantly introduced into a segregated community. I guess it is just so they can fit in with others sharing traits, but by putting these First Years with the older students who have grown with idealistic views of the other Houses, the First Years are just going to carry this on, and not even try to prove different because they are young and will follow the older students.

Like, the Gryffindors will put in their heads that Slytherins are the making of evil wizards, or Death Eaters, and they are not to be trusted, just because of what House they are in. Not all Slytherins turned out bad (Snape, Regulus) and most of them did get that way because the students from the other Houses labeled them so, so they figured they would have to live up to it. So by Sorting these children, you're just setting them up for stereotypes and labels, which is not good, especially if those labels cross with other Houses, separating them.

Its not like that matter is ignored altogether with Camp Half-Blood or the rest of the forces of Olympus, either(its just less discussed and divided into loyalist creatures and creatures sworn to Tartarus and the like!) if anything its been restrained until the bursts of unleashing is fired upon.
At least Slytherin had a point when it came to his paranoia, too bad his descendants missed out on said justifications behind the point. >_>
I am not asking for a perfect universe, i am asking for a universe that is prepared to fight for its life and will not die lightly, is that wrong?

That said, if anything i can stand the cabin systems in Camp Half-Blood and its allies from the same segmented sub-factions in the forces of Olympus, because no matter what other cabins may feel about each other, all of them would deal with it by taking it to Capture the Flag or unite in a life-or-death battle against a common foe(granted, there are exceptions to the rules, but frankly they are too few and far between!)

The Gryffindors were actually trying to stay loyal to their founder's ideals(which are justified if Merlin's deeds before the founders proved anything!) and yes, Regulus and Snape deserve more kudos in that regard, for that matter(although Regulus reminds me of the two sub-zero brothers from Mortal Kombat, funny enough!)

What about the regards to the Veelas?
Frankly i'd like to see some of Aphrodite's daughters and granddaughters allow the bi-girls among them to make-out with Veelas that are also bi, but i digress and i am not even sure if that's allowed. razz

Veelas? I don't know much about veela's except that Fleur is 1/4 of one. stare
And hey, who say's it's not allowed? But who would make the first move? Now that's debatable.

To watch whichever two groups would start the make-out sessions first, now that would be very much fun, right there.

Now back to the societies in both, shall we?

Exactly why are the Hufflepuffs being treated as the butt monkeys, despite having a lot of badasses whenever the light shines on them?

[michiganbeaches]

Harry Potter will always be my favorite even though I'm only on book three of the Percy Jackson series. While reading the Lightning Thief I couldn't help comparing it to the HP series. I love Greek mythology a lot, but the HP wizarding world just has so much more detail and fun.

[espeon101]

i love both books and i can't decide!

[MeriKanne]

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

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MeriKanne

Besides actually liking the character Percy as a whole person, I entertain the idea of seeing him beaten to a bloody pulp.

As for the Catholic Church, are we talking about oh, the Middle Ages here? Excommunicating people and the burnings at stake? Or perhaps the witch hunts?
And true, they could actually try and do something productive, perhaps help Potter against Voldemort and not just sit around and let their children die (those who stayed and fought at the Battle of Hogwarts).
And I must agree on the god of terrorism thing, but good thing he isn't around, otherwise he'd make everyone call him the Dark Lord Voldemort, Almighty God of Terrorism. And perhaps if not a reincarnation, a descendant if that is possible?

I think we might also want to construct the outline of the Hogwarts and Camp Half-Blood societalities (if that is even a word xp ) just so we know what we're working with here.

Don't worry, i hear of people who may like Sir Galahad, but would like to imagine him getting beaten to a bloody pulp, at least once in my life(i lost count on how many, but they were very rare, let's settle for that!)

I meant to speak of the skeletons in the Catholic Church's closet, in particular, which helped to get us to the mess we are at, now(Not to mention a lot of the corrupt ones among its members are far worse than any of the gods at their worse moments combined, but i digress, again!)

That said, a better comparison with Merlin's policies would be with trying to be religiously or racially tolerant, in which the Potter-World is generally failing miserably on such grounds, really.

Let's be glad that The God-King(300 Reference!) was slain by his relative, Mr. Potter(and the Furies apparently permitted that one!) or else we'd be in a very bloody war that's even worse than the one we are in.

Do you want to start off with Hogwarts and its apparent lack of unity while i try to cover the levels of unity in Camp Half-Blood(for the most part, and in better containment with distrust, too?)

Well, the religious and racially tolerant lack of people in the HP universe is sorta what makes it work. I mean, not so much perhaps racial and religious, but pure-blodd supremecy and what not. I mean, stuff like that is everywhere in everyday life and if J.K. Rowling failed to awknowledge this in the HP universe, it wouldn't be the same. Plus, there would be hardly any support for the motives behind Salazar Slytherin, the Malfoys, Death Eaters, and Voldemort. I mean, it would've been the perfect wizarding universe if everyone had treated everyone else like equals, but the fact that they fail at this and keep their prejudices is what makes it more real (despite the fact that it's about wizards with lighting bolt shaped scars running around England).

And I shall try, although I must say that in certain instances the Hogwarts population (with the exception of those lovely Slytherins) did band together to fight a greater, common enemy (Umbridge and Voldemort).
I think the fact that they separate the students into the Houses (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Slytherin) is just a set up for....well, definately not inter-House Unity. Because the Sorting Hat is so adept at sorting out kids by their personalities into the different Houses, they are instantly introduced into a segregated community. I guess it is just so they can fit in with others sharing traits, but by putting these First Years with the older students who have grown with idealistic views of the other Houses, the First Years are just going to carry this on, and not even try to prove different because they are young and will follow the older students.

Like, the Gryffindors will put in their heads that Slytherins are the making of evil wizards, or Death Eaters, and they are not to be trusted, just because of what House they are in. Not all Slytherins turned out bad (Snape, Regulus) and most of them did get that way because the students from the other Houses labeled them so, so they figured they would have to live up to it. So by Sorting these children, you're just setting them up for stereotypes and labels, which is not good, especially if those labels cross with other Houses, separating them.

Its not like that matter is ignored altogether with Camp Half-Blood or the rest of the forces of Olympus, either(its just less discussed and divided into loyalist creatures and creatures sworn to Tartarus and the like!) if anything its been restrained until the bursts of unleashing is fired upon.
At least Slytherin had a point when it came to his paranoia, too bad his descendants missed out on said justifications behind the point. >_>
I am not asking for a perfect universe, i am asking for a universe that is prepared to fight for its life and will not die lightly, is that wrong?

That said, if anything i can stand the cabin systems in Camp Half-Blood and its allies from the same segmented sub-factions in the forces of Olympus, because no matter what other cabins may feel about each other, all of them would deal with it by taking it to Capture the Flag or unite in a life-or-death battle against a common foe(granted, there are exceptions to the rules, but frankly they are too few and far between!)

The Gryffindors were actually trying to stay loyal to their founder's ideals(which are justified if Merlin's deeds before the founders proved anything!) and yes, Regulus and Snape deserve more kudos in that regard, for that matter(although Regulus reminds me of the two sub-zero brothers from Mortal Kombat, funny enough!)

What about the regards to the Veelas?
Frankly i'd like to see some of Aphrodite's daughters and granddaughters allow the bi-girls among them to make-out with Veelas that are also bi, but i digress and i am not even sure if that's allowed. razz

Veelas? I don't know much about veela's except that Fleur is 1/4 of one. stare
And hey, who say's it's not allowed? But who would make the first move? Now that's debatable.

To watch whichever two groups would start the make-out sessions first, now that would be very much fun, right there.

Now back to the societies in both, shall we?

Exactly why are the Hufflepuffs being treated as the butt monkeys, despite having a lot of badasses whenever the light shines on them?

Well....I'd have to say 1) Just the name Hufflepuff. It's so cute and cuddly like (to me anyway...I don't really know how else to describe it), 2) They really don't have any noteworthy traits. I mean loyalty....well all Houses pretty much have loyalty to themselves, Gryffindors will help out Gryffindors, Slytherins will help Slytherins (if it's to their advantage), so no big thing there. And 3) Besides Cedric and Tonks, they haven't produced very important characters...
That's my opinion anyway.

[ImJustHere Hurts]

i loooooooove greek mythology but i do like harry potter more

[Javier Cross]

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Javier Cross

MeriKanne

Well, the religious and racially tolerant lack of people in the HP universe is sorta what makes it work. I mean, not so much perhaps racial and religious, but pure-blodd supremecy and what not. I mean, stuff like that is everywhere in everyday life and if J.K. Rowling failed to awknowledge this in the HP universe, it wouldn't be the same. Plus, there would be hardly any support for the motives behind Salazar Slytherin, the Malfoys, Death Eaters, and Voldemort. I mean, it would've been the perfect wizarding universe if everyone had treated everyone else like equals, but the fact that they fail at this and keep their prejudices is what makes it more real (despite the fact that it's about wizards with lighting bolt shaped scars running around England).

And I shall try, although I must say that in certain instances the Hogwarts population (with the exception of those lovely Slytherins) did band together to fight a greater, common enemy (Umbridge and Voldemort).
I think the fact that they separate the students into the Houses (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Slytherin) is just a set up for....well, definately not inter-House Unity. Because the Sorting Hat is so adept at sorting out kids by their personalities into the different Houses, they are instantly introduced into a segregated community. I guess it is just so they can fit in with others sharing traits, but by putting these First Years with the older students who have grown with idealistic views of the other Houses, the First Years are just going to carry this on, and not even try to prove different because they are young and will follow the older students.

Like, the Gryffindors will put in their heads that Slytherins are the making of evil wizards, or Death Eaters, and they are not to be trusted, just because of what House they are in. Not all Slytherins turned out bad (Snape, Regulus) and most of them did get that way because the students from the other Houses labeled them so, so they figured they would have to live up to it. So by Sorting these children, you're just setting them up for stereotypes and labels, which is not good, especially if those labels cross with other Houses, separating them.

Its not like that matter is ignored altogether with Camp Half-Blood or the rest of the forces of Olympus, either(its just less discussed and divided into loyalist creatures and creatures sworn to Tartarus and the like!) if anything its been restrained until the bursts of unleashing is fired upon.
At least Slytherin had a point when it came to his paranoia, too bad his descendants missed out on said justifications behind the point. >_>
I am not asking for a perfect universe, i am asking for a universe that is prepared to fight for its life and will not die lightly, is that wrong?

That said, if anything i can stand the cabin systems in Camp Half-Blood and its allies from the same segmented sub-factions in the forces of Olympus, because no matter what other cabins may feel about each other, all of them would deal with it by taking it to Capture the Flag or unite in a life-or-death battle against a common foe(granted, there are exceptions to the rules, but frankly they are too few and far between!)

The Gryffindors were actually trying to stay loyal to their founder's ideals(which are justified if Merlin's deeds before the founders proved anything!) and yes, Regulus and Snape deserve more kudos in that regard, for that matter(although Regulus reminds me of the two sub-zero brothers from Mortal Kombat, funny enough!)

What about the regards to the Veelas?
Frankly i'd like to see some of Aphrodite's daughters and granddaughters allow the bi-girls among them to make-out with Veelas that are also bi, but i digress and i am not even sure if that's allowed. razz

Veelas? I don't know much about veela's except that Fleur is 1/4 of one. stare
And hey, who say's it's not allowed? But who would make the first move? Now that's debatable.

To watch whichever two groups would start the make-out sessions first, now that would be very much fun, right there.

Now back to the societies in both, shall we?

Exactly why are the Hufflepuffs being treated as the butt monkeys, despite having a lot of badasses whenever the light shines on them?

Well....I'd have to say 1) Just the name Hufflepuff. It's so cute and cuddly like (to me anyway...I don't really know how else to describe it), 2) They really don't have any noteworthy traits. I mean loyalty....well all Houses pretty much have loyalty to themselves, Gryffindors will help out Gryffindors, Slytherins will help Slytherins (if it's to their advantage), so no big thing there. And 3) Besides Cedric and Tonks, they haven't produced very important characters...
That's my opinion anyway.

That's the kind of thing they said about Wales(Lord Arthur's birthplace, might i add) to the rest of Britain. stare

Nevertheless, i am pretty sure that they meant loyalty to the entire school itself, not just to any particular house.
That, and can you go much wrong with trying to imagine some of them becoming out for someone's blood if one of their own ever died at the hands of terrorists(or magi-terrorists, for that matter?)

At least with the Aphrodite cabin in general, there's actually personal reasons why they didn't get much emphasis on the front-lines, and that's mainly because in the ancient times, Aphrodite herself would be reluctant to send her children to directly fight in war-times unless she was convinced that they were to be held as 'reserves', so to speak(or at least as a counterpart to the Coast Guard or National Guard to the rest of the children of the other gods!)
An awful lot would have to be done to particularly convince her to send some of her half-mortal children to lead the charge in the fighting, such as the enemy gets stat bonuses from emotions, and seeing as how her children can control emotional magic, they have to be there to twist some amounts of the currents of the threat's free will, if they must do so.

May i add more, aside from the fact that Aphrodite is no longer allowed to directly interfere with whether or not her children could live another day?

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Well, the religious and racially tolerant lack of people in the HP universe is sorta what makes it work. I mean, not so much perhaps racial and religious, but pure-blodd supremecy and what not. I mean, stuff like that is everywhere in everyday life and if J.K. Rowling failed to awknowledge this in the HP universe, it wouldn't be the same. Plus, there would be hardly any support for the motives behind Salazar Slytherin, the Malfoys, Death Eaters, and Voldemort. I mean, it would've been the perfect wizarding universe if everyone had treated everyone else like equals, but the fact that they fail at this and keep their prejudices is what makes it more real (despite the fact that it's about wizards with lighting bolt shaped scars running around England).

And I shall try, although I must say that in certain instances the Hogwarts population (with the exception of those lovely Slytherins) did band together to fight a greater, common enemy (Umbridge and Voldemort).
I think the fact that they separate the students into the Houses (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Slytherin) is just a set up for....well, definately not inter-House Unity. Because the Sorting Hat is so adept at sorting out kids by their personalities into the different Houses, they are instantly introduced into a segregated community. I guess it is just so they can fit in with others sharing traits, but by putting these First Years with the older students who have grown with idealistic views of the other Houses, the First Years are just going to carry this on, and not even try to prove different because they are young and will follow the older students.

Like, the Gryffindors will put in their heads that Slytherins are the making of evil wizards, or Death Eaters, and they are not to be trusted, just because of what House they are in. Not all Slytherins turned out bad (Snape, Regulus) and most of them did get that way because the students from the other Houses labeled them so, so they figured they would have to live up to it. So by Sorting these children, you're just setting them up for stereotypes and labels, which is not good, especially if those labels cross with other Houses, separating them.

Its not like that matter is ignored altogether with Camp Half-Blood or the rest of the forces of Olympus, either(its just less discussed and divided into loyalist creatures and creatures sworn to Tartarus and the like!) if anything its been restrained until the bursts of unleashing is fired upon.
At least Slytherin had a point when it came to his paranoia, too bad his descendants missed out on said justifications behind the point. >_>
I am not asking for a perfect universe, i am asking for a universe that is prepared to fight for its life and will not die lightly, is that wrong?

That said, if anything i can stand the cabin systems in Camp Half-Blood and its allies from the same segmented sub-factions in the forces of Olympus, because no matter what other cabins may feel about each other, all of them would deal with it by taking it to Capture the Flag or unite in a life-or-death battle against a common foe(granted, there are exceptions to the rules, but frankly they are too few and far between!)

The Gryffindors were actually trying to stay loyal to their founder's ideals(which are justified if Merlin's deeds before the founders proved anything!) and yes, Regulus and Snape deserve more kudos in that regard, for that matter(although Regulus reminds me of the two sub-zero brothers from Mortal Kombat, funny enough!)

What about the regards to the Veelas?
Frankly i'd like to see some of Aphrodite's daughters and granddaughters allow the bi-girls among them to make-out with Veelas that are also bi, but i digress and i am not even sure if that's allowed. razz

Veelas? I don't know much about veela's except that Fleur is 1/4 of one. stare
And hey, who say's it's not allowed? But who would make the first move? Now that's debatable.

To watch whichever two groups would start the make-out sessions first, now that would be very much fun, right there.

Now back to the societies in both, shall we?

Exactly why are the Hufflepuffs being treated as the butt monkeys, despite having a lot of badasses whenever the light shines on them?

Well....I'd have to say 1) Just the name Hufflepuff. It's so cute and cuddly like (to me anyway...I don't really know how else to describe it), 2) They really don't have any noteworthy traits. I mean loyalty....well all Houses pretty much have loyalty to themselves, Gryffindors will help out Gryffindors, Slytherins will help Slytherins (if it's to their advantage), so no big thing there. And 3) Besides Cedric and Tonks, they haven't produced very important characters...
That's my opinion anyway.

That's the kind of thing they said about Wales(Lord Arthur's birthplace, might i add) to the rest of Britain. stare

Nevertheless, i am pretty sure that they meant loyalty to the entire school itself, not just to any particular house.
That, and can you go much wrong with trying to imagine some of them becoming out for someone's blood if one of their own ever died at the hands of terrorists(or magi-terrorists, for that matter?)

At least with the Aphrodite cabin in general, there's actually personal reasons why they didn't get much emphasis on the front-lines, and that's mainly because in the ancient times, Aphrodite herself would be reluctant to send her children to directly fight in war-times unless she was convinced that they were to be held as 'reserves', so to speak(or at least as a counterpart to the Coast Guard or National Guard to the rest of the children of the other gods!)
An awful lot would have to be done to particularly convince her to send some of her half-mortal children to lead the charge in the fighting, such as the enemy gets stat bonuses from emotions, and seeing as how her children can control emotional magic, they have to be there to twist some amounts of the currents of the threat's free will, if they must do so.

May i add more, aside from the fact that Aphrodite is no longer allowed to directly interfere with whether or not her children could live another day?

Well either way, loyalty isn't that good a trait if you ask me. I mean, almost any child going to school (and I say almost because there is always going to be those odd few who absolutely hate school with a burning passion) will at some point have a loyalty for it, such as a sports event against another school, or in Hogwart's case, a battle against Death Eaters and Voldemort and Umbridge. Then, practically everyone banded together as a whole school, not just the Hufflepuffs.

And true, her children aren't really cut out to be on the front lines. Except maybe Piper. They'd probably be in the background cheering on their team and dressing the wounded....with make-up (in Percy's world). And I thought none of the gods were allowed to directly interfere with the gods.