Harry Potter/Hermione Granger (Read first post please)

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[karyouonigami]

Sanguine Lupis

To be honest, I agree with Ron's actions. They weren't the right choices, but I wouldn't have made a much better choice in his place. I think it's understandable.

You wouldn't believe your friend when they tell you to your face that they didn't do something? as for leaveing in the forrest I'm not sure Id be able to hold a grudge since it wasn't all his fault but still, you don't leave your friends. Ever.

[Brilwen]

karyouonigami

Sanguine Lupis

To be honest, I agree with Ron's actions. They weren't the right choices, but I wouldn't have made a much better choice in his place. I think it's understandable.

You wouldn't believe your friend when they tell you to your face that they didn't do something? as for leaveing in the forrest I'm not sure Id be able to hold a grudge since it wasn't all his fault but still, you don't leave your friends. Ever.

Agreed, you stick by them Neville would have.

Especially in a dangerous situation you don't leave your friends because you yourself might get hurt as might have they.

I like Ron but I could have slapped him in that scene.

[Sanguine Lupis]

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

[bard-of-flesh]

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[Zenita Dee]

Sanguine Lupis

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

You're right no one's perfect, you're wrong about leaving your friends, and if you do it shouldn't be for jealousy otherwise you're not really their friend. You said you would do the same thing as him, and I'm not trying to be a b***h here, but that just makes you a selfish person, only caring about your feelings. Ron's actions show he doesn't deserve their friendship. When your really friends with someone, they come first. It's like the saying, you want to find out who your REAL friends are, see who's still by your side when things are bad.

I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up.


And to the point that Hermione couldn't love Harry because she pushes him to be his best, doesn't make for a bad partner. You always want what's best for the people you love be in from friend to friend or love to love.

[TheQuidditchQueen]

In the first few books, I thought Harry and Hermione would end up together. Then, Goblet of Fire came and I became a firm supporter of Hermione/Ron.

I always knew she would end up with one of the two... It would work both ways. Their both her best friends, but they share very different relationships. With Harry, it's an extremely strong friendship which lasts through thick and thin. With Ron, it's also a very strong friendship, but there's a lot more sexual tension there.

Overall, I like Ron and Hermione. I think they were meant for each other!

[ChiffaniChan]

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

You're right no one's perfect, you're wrong about leaving your friends, and if you do it shouldn't be for jealousy otherwise you're not really their friend. You said you would do the same thing as him, and I'm not trying to be a b***h here, but that just makes you a selfish person, only caring about your feelings. Ron's actions show he doesn't deserve their friendship. When your really friends with someone, they come first. It's like the saying, you want to find out who your REAL friends are, see who's still by your side when things are bad.

I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up.


And to the point that Hermione couldn't love Harry because she pushes him to be his best, doesn't make for a bad partner. You always want what's best for the people you love be in from friend to friend or love to love.

I'm not tying to defend what Ron did, but you said that "I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up." Guys don't mature like girls, so him still acting like he is 14 when he was 17 is like any other guy.
I don't think that make him selfish, a bad friend, or whatever, it makes him human, a guy, and it don't a great reaction but it is a reasonable one.

[Zenita Dee]

ChiffaniChan

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

You're right no one's perfect, you're wrong about leaving your friends, and if you do it shouldn't be for jealousy otherwise you're not really their friend. You said you would do the same thing as him, and I'm not trying to be a b***h here, but that just makes you a selfish person, only caring about your feelings. Ron's actions show he doesn't deserve their friendship. When your really friends with someone, they come first. It's like the saying, you want to find out who your REAL friends are, see who's still by your side when things are bad.

I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up.


And to the point that Hermione couldn't love Harry because she pushes him to be his best, doesn't make for a bad partner. You always want what's best for the people you love be in from friend to friend or love to love.

I'm not tying to defend what Ron did, but you said that "I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up." Guys don't mature like girls, so him still acting like he is 14 when he was 17 is like any other guy.
I don't think that make him selfish, a bad friend, or whatever, it makes him human, a guy, and it don't a great reaction but it is a reasonable one.

Point one, your arguments actually don't dispute the fact that Ron needs to be punched. Just because as humans we make mistakes doesn't mean he exempt from the consequences of his actions.

Saying "Oh it's because he's a guy" is not a valid arguement, being male isn't an excuse for being an a*****e.

When is it ever "reasonable" to react with jealously. It's also not like he was matter of some trival matter.

He abandoned his firends, friends he's been with for over 7yrs, who he's been up through so much with, on a life or death mission not some playground squable. On top of that he tried to take Hermione with him. To leave his best friend alone, to fend for himself, to literally try to survive on his own. That's the definition of selfish.

No, there's nothing "reasonable" about that.

[Sanguine Lupis]

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

You're right no one's perfect, you're wrong about leaving your friends, and if you do it shouldn't be for jealousy otherwise you're not really their friend. You said you would do the same thing as him, and I'm not trying to be a b***h here, but that just makes you a selfish person, only caring about your feelings. Ron's actions show he doesn't deserve their friendship. When your really friends with someone, they come first. It's like the saying, you want to find out who your REAL friends are, see who's still by your side when things are bad.

I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up.

But anyway. Yeah, being selfish is one of my bad qualities (obviously). And yes, sometimes you do have to leave your friends. For example, if they want some time alone, or if they stop being your friend all together. And you can't really say I'm wrong, It's my opinion. But I appreciate what you say, either way.

[Sanguine Lupis]

Zenita Dee

ChiffaniChan

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

You're right no one's perfect, you're wrong about leaving your friends, and if you do it shouldn't be for jealousy otherwise you're not really their friend. You said you would do the same thing as him, and I'm not trying to be a b***h here, but that just makes you a selfish person, only caring about your feelings. Ron's actions show he doesn't deserve their friendship. When your really friends with someone, they come first. It's like the saying, you want to find out who your REAL friends are, see who's still by your side when things are bad.

I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up.


And to the point that Hermione couldn't love Harry because she pushes him to be his best, doesn't make for a bad partner. You always want what's best for the people you love be in from friend to friend or love to love.

I'm not tying to defend what Ron did, but you said that "I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up." Guys don't mature like girls, so him still acting like he is 14 when he was 17 is like any other guy.
I don't think that make him selfish, a bad friend, or whatever, it makes him human, a guy, and it don't a great reaction but it is a reasonable one.

Point one, your arguments actually don't dispute the fact that Ron needs to be punched. Just because as humans we make mistakes doesn't mean he exempt from the consequences of his actions.

Saying "Oh it's because he's a guy" is not a valid arguement, being male isn't an excuse for being an a*****e.

When is it ever "reasonable" to react with jealously. It's also not like he was matter of some trival matter.

He abandoned his firends, friends he's been with for over 7yrs, who he's been up through so much with, on a life or death mission not some playground squable. On top of that he tried to take Hermione with him. To leave his best friend alone, to fend for himself, to literally try to survive on his own. That's the definition of selfish.

No, there's nothing "reasonable" about that.

Actually, being a guy is quite a good excuse for being an a*****e. And also, it was quite reasonable. Jealousy is a strong emotion, and it creates huge strain on the groups relationship, and then they split up in GOF and DH. And Ron was a true friend. Even though he left, he came back. He wasn't some fair-weather friend, like Malfoy. He was true to his friends in the end.

But you're right, he does need a punch in the face.

[Sanguine Lupis]

Zenita Dee

You're quite an opinionated person, aren't you. And also, you need to chill out a little. Just a bit.

[Zenita Dee]

Sanguine Lupis

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

You're right no one's perfect, you're wrong about leaving your friends, and if you do it shouldn't be for jealousy otherwise you're not really their friend. You said you would do the same thing as him, and I'm not trying to be a b***h here, but that just makes you a selfish person, only caring about your feelings. Ron's actions show he doesn't deserve their friendship. When your really friends with someone, they come first. It's like the saying, you want to find out who your REAL friends are, see who's still by your side when things are bad.

I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up.

But anyway. Yeah, being selfish is one of my bad qualities (obviously). And yes, sometimes you do have to leave your friends. For example, if they want some time alone, or if they stop being your friend all together. And you can't really say I'm wrong, It's my opinion. But I appreciate what you say, either way.

They don't have to, they want to. Eitehr way what the first person was saying is that, he deserves a consquence for that. He can't keep wanting things his way and expecting everyone to be okay with that. My two year newphew acts that way and if it wasn't for the fact he was two...and so cute when he cries...I'd hit him.

[Zenita Dee]

Sanguine Lupis

Zenita Dee

You're quite an opinionated person, aren't you. And also, you need to chill out a little. Just a bit.

Or you could not read my post in an amgry tone. I am very opinionated person.

Aand No, your sex is never a good excuse for anything. Saying that creates a steteotype. Just becuase he's a guy doesn't mean he has to act like an a**. I have plenty of guys friends who are all around decent when it comes to being friend.

[Sanguine Lupis]

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

I can understand your opinions, but I can also understand Ron's actions. My choices would not have been much better. Not everyone is perfect, remember that. I think Ron didn't actually think Harry did put his own name in, but he was still jealous. Harry always got attention, whether he wanted it or not.

And also, sometimes you have to leave your friends. That wasn't one of those times, but sometimes you do.

You're right no one's perfect, you're wrong about leaving your friends, and if you do it shouldn't be for jealousy otherwise you're not really their friend. You said you would do the same thing as him, and I'm not trying to be a b***h here, but that just makes you a selfish person, only caring about your feelings. Ron's actions show he doesn't deserve their friendship. When your really friends with someone, they come first. It's like the saying, you want to find out who your REAL friends are, see who's still by your side when things are bad.

I understand him doing it once, he was 14, but twice within three years, the boy just doesn't grow up.

But anyway. Yeah, being selfish is one of my bad qualities (obviously). And yes, sometimes you do have to leave your friends. For example, if they want some time alone, or if they stop being your friend all together. And you can't really say I'm wrong, It's my opinion. But I appreciate what you say, either way.

They don't have to, they want to. Eitehr way what the first person was saying is that, he deserves a consquence for that. He can't keep wanting things his way and expecting everyone to be okay with that. My two year newphew acts that way and if it wasn't for the fact he was two...and so cute when he cries...I'd hit him.

You don't have to do anything. But you know what I mean. And also, what do you mean, first person? If you mean the person at the top of the quotes in your post that I am quoting now, then that was me.

[Sanguine Lupis]

Zenita Dee

Sanguine Lupis

Zenita Dee

You're quite an opinionated person, aren't you. And also, you need to chill out a little. Just a bit.

Or you could not read my post in an amgry tone. I am very opinionated person.

Aand No, your sex is never a good excuse for anything. Saying that creates a steteotype. Just becuase he's a guy doesn't mean he has to act like an a**. I have plenty of guys friends who are all around decent when it comes to being friend.

I guess it might just be me. But I don't think it is.

And, in my opinion, it is. Most people might disagree with me, but that doesn't make me wrong. Although I might be.