who hates the president?!!

who is/was better for our country?

oboma	75.0%	[ 36 ]
bush	25.0%	[ 12 ]
Total Votes:			[ 48 ]

[A Cats Curiosity]

James Valion

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

I Live In Australia, So Please Let's Not Turn This Into "Your A Silly Sausage" To And Fro Remarking Contest.
More Or Less, I Simply Didn't Know Any Good Could Come From War sweatdrop

Silly sausage x3
That's a funny word :3 gives me giggles in my tummeh :3
It's ok. You live in a different continent. And I haven't heard anything of Australia being in a war.
It might be different for you economy through. We both live on different continents.

By the way, I may act somewhat mature but "silly sausage" can make me act so immature xd

We WEre In The War, As Our Previous PM, Just As Our Current One Are Kiss Asses, They Pretty Much Follow The American President WIth A Toiletry Bag. It's Quite Pathetic That Our PM Won't Make A Change And Make Aus A Little More Independent As Opposed To Looking After THe Presidents Dog's So He Don't Get All Mad. Eh, Either Way Its Politics And It Bores Me.

For The Record. I Lied, You Are A Silly Sausage XD

Aw that sucks. And by the way it's not a PM its called a post.
PM = private message. And try not to capitalize the beginning of every word please D:
Well they shouldn't follow America's presidents. Ever Since we elected bush everything has been down hill (note that I've only lived for about 12 years and 10 months so I don't know what the past presidents were like)

P.S. Silly sausages <3 You know, my school came up with a tacopie for lunch : DD

PM = Prime Minister stare

Well now we both got something incorrect :3
Then please just say prime minister.
I don't really like abbreviations unless they're truly needed like the CFC's. I don't know anything that would want to say the unabbreviated CFC label everytime.

[WNxLuckyXIII]

fullmoonlightblood

WNxLuckyXIII

AndreJB_1992

WNxLuckyXIII

AndreJB_1992

WNxLuckyXIII

To whom it may concern,

Very well, you challenge is accepted. You can either provide evidence of these claims, or you can explain to me how you're a liar and/or idiot.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

"Read back to the original posts that I first put on here. This is also proof. He is pushing MARTIAL LAW if the FREE PEOPLE will not vote in his favor.
Yes, this video is a little shaky, I will admit, but you can research the fact behind all of it. But this video puts things into perspective.
He needs more protection than any other president. Because he will fall, due to his deceptions and lies.
How are the things he is pushing not destroying our free country?
We are merely his puppets, and he is the puppeteer.
But he needs to be wary of the puppets without strings."

To whom it may concern,

I asked one of two things of you. The first I asked was for you to provide evidence of your rash claims against the president. What you provided, instead, was a paranoid video which was edited to make Obama look bad (the secret meeting was from when he was running, all the bad bits are either from his opponents, most of whom can, will, and have lied to do harm to his political life, or small, unrelated bits which sound slightly relevant so they just stuck them in there) and then told me to "look it up myself." YouTube videos are not reliable sources, it is not my job to prove your point for you, and you're quickly looking more and more like either a liar or an idiot.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

"The thing, though, is that you are proving yourself to be uneducated and unwilling to be educated. I should not spoon feed you facts to persuade you.
You should make your own opinions, and not be herded like a sheep to pasture.
I should not have to prove anything. The videos I put out, yes are shaky, I've already said this, but facts can be proven by the right sources.
It is not my fault that you cannot surmise your own opinions.
It is not my fault that you do not come back with any contradictory remarks that prove that you have anything to make a debatable argument.
As for the other thing that his opponents made snide remarks, yes they did.
But these remarks were soon put to the test, and obama failed them.

You are proving yourself an unworthy debater, do to the fact that you I spoon feed you shaky videos, and then you can't even educate yourself enough to come back and make a valid argument.

Everything I have just said, is the basis that which the government plays a role in. They have control over the population, though many do not realize it.

If you cannot prove anything that is educated and not a question or contradiction on your own part, do not respond.

I have no time to waste on an uneducated person who is spoon fed shakiness, and gobbles it down, not willing to form an educated argument by researching the facts that have been shakily represented."

To whom it may concern,

Clearly, you don't know how a debate works. Allow me to educate you.

You claimed that Obama was destroying the country by taking jobs from qualified individuals and giving them to unqualified immigrants. These are bold claims, which any idiot can make, so I called BS on you. The ball is now in your court. It is your task to prove your claims true, by providing evidence. I then provide counter-evidence. You counter my counter-evidence. We continue this until one of us concedes. You failed to provide evidence. You, instead, provided opinions, and told me to do my own research, and then proceeded to attack me for not having opinions of my own.

Firstly, a YouTube video of mostly unrelated events which foresees the doom of America proves nothing. I can make videos saying the sky is green and all rabbits are made of chocolate, but it doesn't make it true. I would have excused the video if it had evidence of some kind, but there wasn't evidence of anything but a bunch of people are angry and convinced Obama's "sham" will be over by March 15th (which very well have been the March 15th which has already passed, I didn't check the date on the video).

Secondly, you are trying to make a point. You're the one who needs to provide the evidence, not me. It is not my claim, and I should not be expected to prove it. And, since you have evidently researched these "facts" so heavily, finding evidence of them should be absolutely no problem for you. Yet you insist I look them up myself. It is not my job to prove your point for you, it's my job to prove your point wrong.

Thirdly, you attack my own lack of research on the subject, and my own lack of opinions. This is odd to me, because I have yet to express any specific opinions on anything in this thread besides the food label for news thing and that Obama isn't destroying the country. How do you know how well researched my personal politics are when you don't know any of them?

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

Dude chill.
All he's doing is giving his opinions based on his facts,intelligence and resources. There's no need to force an opinion on him. I know this is a debate and it's rude for someone who's not even 13 to butt in(please excuse my behavior) but you really don't need to be such a Meany head about it.

To whom it may concern,

He hasn't provided a single fact or resource yet. All he's done is shown me a YouTube video, told me to do research of my own, and then attacked my assumed lack of research. I'd be happy as a clam if he actually gave me something to debate rather than this.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

[Zylum]

What is this com-mint you speak of neutral

[The ReFiller]

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

AndreJB_1992

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

I Live In Australia, So Please Let's Not Turn This Into "Your A Silly Sausage" To And Fro Remarking Contest.
More Or Less, I Simply Didn't Know Any Good Could Come From War sweatdrop

Silly sausage x3
That's a funny word :3 gives me giggles in my tummeh :3
It's ok. You live in a different continent. And I haven't heard anything of Australia being in a war.
It might be different for you economy through. We both live on different continents.

By the way, I may act somewhat mature but "silly sausage" can make me act so immature xd

We WEre In The War, As Our Previous PM, Just As Our Current One Are Kiss Asses, They Pretty Much Follow The American President WIth A Toiletry Bag. It's Quite Pathetic That Our PM Won't Make A Change And Make Aus A Little More Independent As Opposed To Looking After THe Presidents Dog's So He Don't Get All Mad. Eh, Either Way Its Politics And It Bores Me.

For The Record. I Lied, You Are A Silly Sausage XD

Aw that sucks. And by the way it's not a PM its called a post.
PM = private message. And try not to capitalize the beginning of every word please D:
Well they shouldn't follow America's presidents. Ever Since we elected bush everything has been down hill (note that I've only lived for about 12 years and 10 months so I don't know what the past presidents were like)

P.S. Silly sausages <3 You know, my school came up with a tacopie for lunch : DD

"I believe he meant Prime Minister.
Yes, you are young, but that does not stop you from educating yourself on the former pasted on presidents.
Pick up a book, or go online and research!
Become educated! It's the best gift you could give yourself."

I try but the teachers give me so much homework.
Some of my knowledge I got from the former adults on gaia.
But I'd say I'm smarter than the average 12/13 year old.
I debate with my social studies teachers often.
I would love to learn about alot of things but I don't have the time for too much.

[/quot

lol i do the same with my teacher
he tho just gets angry at me for telling the truth=/

Not my teacher. Ms brunnet gives us candy when we get out social studies reveiw answers correct. And she loves opinions. She'll just eat up your opinion <3
My teachers are so awsome :3

ya my teacher mr.keller asks us what we think about whats going on about politics and i tell him and than he keeps insisting that he is right and im wrong

but he is a very good teacher whan it comes to teaching hes fun and plays the piano and gutar alot for us and sings for us to=]

[SequoiaSeeds]

Zylum

What is this com-mint you speak of neutral

It's like spearmint but it tastes a little bit more like the Soviet Union.

[A Cats Curiosity]

WNxLuckyXIII

fullmoonlightblood

WNxLuckyXIII

Dude chill.
All he's doing is giving his opinions based on his facts,intelligence and resources. There's no need to force an opinion on him. I know this is a debate and it's rude for someone who's not even 13 to butt in(please excuse my behavior) but you really don't need to be such a Meany head about it.

To whom it may concern,

He hasn't provided a single fact or resource yet. All he's done is shown me a YouTube video, told me to do research of my own, and then attacked my assumed lack of research. I'd be happy as a clam if he actually gave me something to debate rather than this.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

So. Alot of opinions don't need research to be proven right or wrong. Opinions don't need research done. Opinions is one's voice. An example:
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in God, but I don't have any physical real proof God isn't real because I have yet to die and see if there really is a heaven or hell.
Just as though Christians don't have Any physical real proof God is real. So none of the sides win, because none of us experienced death to really see if there's a heaven and hell.

[A Cats Curiosity]

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

AndreJB_1992

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

I Live In Australia, So Please Let's Not Turn This Into "Your A Silly Sausage" To And Fro Remarking Contest.
More Or Less, I Simply Didn't Know Any Good Could Come From War sweatdrop

Silly sausage x3
That's a funny word :3 gives me giggles in my tummeh :3
It's ok. You live in a different continent. And I haven't heard anything of Australia being in a war.
It might be different for you economy through. We both live on different continents.

By the way, I may act somewhat mature but "silly sausage" can make me act so immature xd

We WEre In The War, As Our Previous PM, Just As Our Current One Are Kiss Asses, They Pretty Much Follow The American President WIth A Toiletry Bag. It's Quite Pathetic That Our PM Won't Make A Change And Make Aus A Little More Independent As Opposed To Looking After THe Presidents Dog's So He Don't Get All Mad. Eh, Either Way Its Politics And It Bores Me.

For The Record. I Lied, You Are A Silly Sausage XD

Aw that sucks. And by the way it's not a PM its called a post.
PM = private message. And try not to capitalize the beginning of every word please D:
Well they shouldn't follow America's presidents. Ever Since we elected bush everything has been down hill (note that I've only lived for about 12 years and 10 months so I don't know what the past presidents were like)

P.S. Silly sausages <3 You know, my school came up with a tacopie for lunch : DD

"I believe he meant Prime Minister.
Yes, you are young, but that does not stop you from educating yourself on the former pasted on presidents.
Pick up a book, or go online and research!
Become educated! It's the best gift you could give yourself."

I try but the teachers give me so much homework.
Some of my knowledge I got from the former adults on gaia.
But I'd say I'm smarter than the average 12/13 year old.
I debate with my social studies teachers often.
I would love to learn about alot of things but I don't have the time for too much.

[/quot

lol i do the same with my teacher
he tho just gets angry at me for telling the truth=/

Not my teacher. Ms brunnet gives us candy when we get out social studies reveiw answers correct. And she loves opinions. She'll just eat up your opinion <3
My teachers are so awsome :3

ya my teacher mr.keller asks us what we think about whats going on about politics and i tell him and than he keeps insisting that he is right and im wrong

but he is a very good teacher whan it comes to teaching hes fun and plays the piano and gutar alot for us and sings for us to=]

I don't have a music teacher anymore. I switched schools :3

[WNxLuckyXIII]

fullmoonlightblood

WNxLuckyXIII

fullmoonlightblood

WNxLuckyXIII

Dude chill.
All he's doing is giving his opinions based on his facts,intelligence and resources. There's no need to force an opinion on him. I know this is a debate and it's rude for someone who's not even 13 to butt in(please excuse my behavior) but you really don't need to be such a Meany head about it.

To whom it may concern,

He hasn't provided a single fact or resource yet. All he's done is shown me a YouTube video, told me to do research of my own, and then attacked my assumed lack of research. I'd be happy as a clam if he actually gave me something to debate rather than this.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

So. Alot of opinions don't need research to be proven right or wrong. Opinions don't need research done. Opinions is one's voice. An example:
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in God, but I don't have any physical real proof God isn't real because I have yet to die and see if there really is a heaven or hell.
Just as though Christians don't have Any physical real proof God is real. So none of the sides win, because none of us experienced death to really see if there's a heaven and hell.

To whom it may concern,

That's fair. But "Obama is taking jobs from able-body Americans and giving them to less-qualified immigrants" isn't really an opinion. It's the kind of thing one could and should be able to supply evidence for.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

[Super Best]

I trust FOX news about as much as I trust this van



granted there are liberally biased news stations
but FOX is no place to formulate an opinion at all

[The ReFiller]

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

AndreJB_1992

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

I Live In Australia, So Please Let's Not Turn This Into "Your A Silly Sausage" To And Fro Remarking Contest.
More Or Less, I Simply Didn't Know Any Good Could Come From War sweatdrop

Silly sausage x3
That's a funny word :3 gives me giggles in my tummeh :3
It's ok. You live in a different continent. And I haven't heard anything of Australia being in a war.
It might be different for you economy through. We both live on different continents.

By the way, I may act somewhat mature but "silly sausage" can make me act so immature xd

We WEre In The War, As Our Previous PM, Just As Our Current One Are Kiss Asses, They Pretty Much Follow The American President WIth A Toiletry Bag. It's Quite Pathetic That Our PM Won't Make A Change And Make Aus A Little More Independent As Opposed To Looking After THe Presidents Dog's So He Don't Get All Mad. Eh, Either Way Its Politics And It Bores Me.

For The Record. I Lied, You Are A Silly Sausage XD

Aw that sucks. And by the way it's not a PM its called a post.
PM = private message. And try not to capitalize the beginning of every word please D:
Well they shouldn't follow America's presidents. Ever Since we elected bush everything has been down hill (note that I've only lived for about 12 years and 10 months so I don't know what the past presidents were like)

P.S. Silly sausages <3 You know, my school came up with a tacopie for lunch : DD

"I believe he meant Prime Minister.
Yes, you are young, but that does not stop you from educating yourself on the former pasted on presidents.
Pick up a book, or go online and research!
Become educated! It's the best gift you could give yourself."

I try but the teachers give me so much homework.
Some of my knowledge I got from the former adults on gaia.
But I'd say I'm smarter than the average 12/13 year old.
I debate with my social studies teachers often.
I would love to learn about alot of things but I don't have the time for too much.

[/quot

lol i do the same with my teacher
he tho just gets angry at me for telling the truth=/

Not my teacher. Ms brunnet gives us candy when we get out social studies reveiw answers correct. And she loves opinions. She'll just eat up your opinion <3
My teachers are so awsome :3

ya my teacher mr.keller asks us what we think about whats going on about politics and i tell him and than he keeps insisting that he is right and im wrong

but he is a very good teacher whan it comes to teaching hes fun and plays the piano and gutar alot for us and sings for us to=]

I don't have a music teacher anymore. I switched schools :3

aww switching schools sucks=[
i have chours=]my chours teacher is like the best lolXD

[Desdamona_the_beautiful]

I don't like the direction Obama is leading the US

[A Cats Curiosity]

WNxLuckyXIII

fullmoonlightblood

WNxLuckyXIII

fullmoonlightblood

WNxLuckyXIII

Dude chill.
All he's doing is giving his opinions based on his facts,intelligence and resources. There's no need to force an opinion on him. I know this is a debate and it's rude for someone who's not even 13 to butt in(please excuse my behavior) but you really don't need to be such a Meany head about it.

To whom it may concern,

He hasn't provided a single fact or resource yet. All he's done is shown me a YouTube video, told me to do research of my own, and then attacked my assumed lack of research. I'd be happy as a clam if he actually gave me something to debate rather than this.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

So. Alot of opinions don't need research to be proven right or wrong. Opinions don't need research done. Opinions is one's voice. An example:
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in God, but I don't have any physical real proof God isn't real because I have yet to die and see if there really is a heaven or hell.
Just as though Christians don't have Any physical real proof God is real. So none of the sides win, because none of us experienced death to really see if there's a heaven and hell.

To whom it may concern,

That's fair. But "Obama is taking jobs from able-body Americans and giving them to less-qualified immigrants" isn't really an opinion. It's the kind of thing one could and should be able to supply evidence for.

Signed,
Grand Priest of Zeko

That is true. But if he thinks Obama is doing a shitty job that's an opinion. Those sentences are just explaining why he doesn't like Obama. Just face it, everyone has admirers and haters. Just as though you think Obama is doing a good job, but your also explaining why you thin Obama is doing a good job. And that part about the job thing I don't know whether to believe it or not. My mom words on base and if that was true (we live in a ghetto state. AKA: Illionas) then they would have taken my mom's job away by now and given it to someone less qualified. I think she's like a G 10 or 13. I don't know how to level them anymore. We haven't talked in months now :/

[Hot Shot 1472]

i is lion

i dislike the preident=/hes not good for our contry AT ALL!
go obama 08

vote and commint=]

[A Cats Curiosity]

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

AndreJB_1992

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

I Live In Australia, So Please Let's Not Turn This Into "Your A Silly Sausage" To And Fro Remarking Contest.
More Or Less, I Simply Didn't Know Any Good Could Come From War sweatdrop

Silly sausage x3
That's a funny word :3 gives me giggles in my tummeh :3
It's ok. You live in a different continent. And I haven't heard anything of Australia being in a war.
It might be different for you economy through. We both live on different continents.

By the way, I may act somewhat mature but "silly sausage" can make me act so immature xd

We WEre In The War, As Our Previous PM, Just As Our Current One Are Kiss Asses, They Pretty Much Follow The American President WIth A Toiletry Bag. It's Quite Pathetic That Our PM Won't Make A Change And Make Aus A Little More Independent As Opposed To Looking After THe Presidents Dog's So He Don't Get All Mad. Eh, Either Way Its Politics And It Bores Me.

For The Record. I Lied, You Are A Silly Sausage XD

Aw that sucks. And by the way it's not a PM its called a post.
PM = private message. And try not to capitalize the beginning of every word please D:
Well they shouldn't follow America's presidents. Ever Since we elected bush everything has been down hill (note that I've only lived for about 12 years and 10 months so I don't know what the past presidents were like)

P.S. Silly sausages <3 You know, my school came up with a tacopie for lunch : DD

"I believe he meant Prime Minister.
Yes, you are young, but that does not stop you from educating yourself on the former pasted on presidents.
Pick up a book, or go online and research!
Become educated! It's the best gift you could give yourself."

I try but the teachers give me so much homework.
Some of my knowledge I got from the former adults on gaia.
But I'd say I'm smarter than the average 12/13 year old.
I debate with my social studies teachers often.
I would love to learn about alot of things but I don't have the time for too much.

[/quot

lol i do the same with my teacher
he tho just gets angry at me for telling the truth=/

Not my teacher. Ms brunnet gives us candy when we get out social studies reveiw answers correct. And she loves opinions. She'll just eat up your opinion <3
My teachers are so awsome :3

ya my teacher mr.keller asks us what we think about whats going on about politics and i tell him and than he keeps insisting that he is right and im wrong

but he is a very good teacher whan it comes to teaching hes fun and plays the piano and gutar alot for us and sings for us to=]

I don't have a music teacher anymore. I switched schools :3

aww switching schools sucks=[
i have chours=]my chours teacher is like the best lolXD

I switch schools every 2 years becuase my mom is wishy washy.

[The ReFiller]

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

i is lion

fullmoonlightblood

AndreJB_1992

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

fullmoonlightblood

James Valion

I Live In Australia, So Please Let's Not Turn This Into "Your A Silly Sausage" To And Fro Remarking Contest.
More Or Less, I Simply Didn't Know Any Good Could Come From War sweatdrop

Silly sausage x3
That's a funny word :3 gives me giggles in my tummeh :3
It's ok. You live in a different continent. And I haven't heard anything of Australia being in a war.
It might be different for you economy through. We both live on different continents.

By the way, I may act somewhat mature but "silly sausage" can make me act so immature xd

We WEre In The War, As Our Previous PM, Just As Our Current One Are Kiss Asses, They Pretty Much Follow The American President WIth A Toiletry Bag. It's Quite Pathetic That Our PM Won't Make A Change And Make Aus A Little More Independent As Opposed To Looking After THe Presidents Dog's So He Don't Get All Mad. Eh, Either Way Its Politics And It Bores Me.

For The Record. I Lied, You Are A Silly Sausage XD

Aw that sucks. And by the way it's not a PM its called a post.
PM = private message. And try not to capitalize the beginning of every word please D:
Well they shouldn't follow America's presidents. Ever Since we elected bush everything has been down hill (note that I've only lived for about 12 years and 10 months so I don't know what the past presidents were like)

P.S. Silly sausages <3 You know, my school came up with a tacopie for lunch : DD

"I believe he meant Prime Minister.
Yes, you are young, but that does not stop you from educating yourself on the former pasted on presidents.
Pick up a book, or go online and research!
Become educated! It's the best gift you could give yourself."

I try but the teachers give me so much homework.
Some of my knowledge I got from the former adults on gaia.
But I'd say I'm smarter than the average 12/13 year old.
I debate with my social studies teachers often.
I would love to learn about alot of things but I don't have the time for too much.

[/quot

lol i do the same with my teacher
he tho just gets angry at me for telling the truth=/

Not my teacher. Ms brunnet gives us candy when we get out social studies reveiw answers correct. And she loves opinions. She'll just eat up your opinion <3
My teachers are so awsome :3

ya my teacher mr.keller asks us what we think about whats going on about politics and i tell him and than he keeps insisting that he is right and im wrong

but he is a very good teacher whan it comes to teaching hes fun and plays the piano and gutar alot for us and sings for us to=]

I don't have a music teacher anymore. I switched schools :3

aww switching schools sucks=[
i have chours=]my chours teacher is like the best lolXD

I switch schools every 2 years becuase my mom is wishy washy.

XD wishy washy thats a fun word to sayXD