Everything You Didn't Know About Meat

[volley15]

I'm still going to eat meat. confused What was the point of your post? To tell us things we've all heard before but do not care about? Please tell me you are not part of PETA.

If people want to eat meat they will eat meat. Don't like it, too bad. you don't have to eat the meat. More for us.

[Mal Conejo]

-0Damarus0-

Simple solution to life's problems.

Thin out population numbers

Half of africa can just eat the other half. That way, the numbers decrease, and one half gets a decent meal.

China should just burn all they're newborn babies for a year as fuel.

And after parents have had as many children as they like, the rest they have can be used as food sources for poor families

Time for lolz: although I have no way of backing this up, I've heard it said that humans originally evolved the capacity to eat meat through eating miscarriages. A lot of energy goes into producing a baby, and if it gets screwed up last-minute that's a horrendous loss of resources. Soooo... omnomnom (wooo for offending a lot of people with this post). Although I doubt that it's true, it's relevant to your post. XP So, yeah.

[Akiromora]

While living in England, my landlady/housemate was vegetarian so I slid along with her for the ease of living. While the food was good and I never really missed meat (and yeah, I grabbed a burger once a week or so while out on the town), I did have some serious issues.

My stomach went haywire. I couldn't go to the bathroom one day, I couldn't get off the toilet the next. My stomach made horrible noises and usually after dinner I was still quite hungry despite having eaten a pretty hefty meal.

I decided that while one could actually live vegetarian, anything that makes my body go bonkers like that can't possibly be completely healthy. Besides, as many have already stated, our bodies were meant for meat AND vegetables. While protein itself can be got from vegetables, it's animal protein that helps to stimulate the growth of the brain and facilitates learning (I'd give you a souce for that info, but I'm lazy...I'm an archaeologist, I learned it in anthropology class).

Our bodies were meant for both. Try a balance, rather than leaping wholeheartedly one way or the other. ^-^ Balances are healthy.

[Mal Conejo]

SPAWNBOT X-13

xXCuddlie_Yet_ViciousXx

xmistxofxdeath

Okay, what the hell is being a vegitarian going to do? No matter how many people go vegitarian animals will STILL DIE. Animals were put on this planet to EAT. Do you know how many people DIE from not getting propper protien? My great aunt developed tremors from being a vegan. Not getting the propper food types is terrible for your body. I understand there are tofu but that's not enough. So stop pressuring people into something that isn't going to make a damn difference. Focus on something that's actually important, try animal abuse, and child abuse.

Just because you don't think that being vegetarian is important, doesn't mean it isn't.
LESS animals die as more people go vegetarian....and did you even bother to read any of the facts, or were you too lazy?

Actually no, the population and desire for meat is increasing enough where you really aren't saving animals. And say it did decrease the animals that were eaten, it'd decrease the number of animals being born as well, due to decreased demand.

And then let's go to the next point: Tell me why it's important. Tell me.

Read that whole environmental piece. Decreased overall number of animals = fewer overall resources being consumed. There's the methane piece, the pasturing piece, et cetera. I've mentioned this before, just putting it here for the sake of being concise in answering points.

Also, one thing I've gotta say, "LESS animals die..."... Here's my big grammar Nazi complaint of the day: it should be FEWER, because in this case "animals" is something that you could count. IE, one animal, two animals, three animals. Less would be used in the context of, say, something you didn't accumulate or count in number, like time, as in "I have less and less time to reply to all of these posts before they become completely irrelevant and their original posters never come to this thread again, and I look like a douche." On that note... /submit

[Akiromora]

Mal Conejo

Time for lolz: although I have no way of backing this up, I've heard it said that humans originally evolved the capacity to eat meat through eating miscarriages. A lot of energy goes into producing a baby, and if it gets screwed up last-minute that's a horrendous loss of resources. Soooo... omnomnom (wooo for offending a lot of people with this post). Although I doubt that it's true, it's relevant to your post. XP So, yeah.

There is no way to have evidence to support this in the anthropological or archaeological record. However, there is evidence to support that as scavengers humans worked to get all they could from whatever resouces were available. Splintered bones indicate the use of tools to break into longbones and suck out the marrow; this pure animal protein is like power fuel for the brain, and likely sent the human brain into growth spurts that eventually ended up with our impressive capacity for learning.

[-0Damarus0-]

See, I'm allways right. Even when it seems wrong.

Africa should just eat eachother. Poor families can raise a child to eat. And china can get the babies that they are churning out like rats fattened and burnt for fuel.

I'm now on a phone and not my pc, plus I'm in bed, so might be slower.

[arcky]

Akiromora

While living in England, my landlady/housemate was vegetarian so I slid along with her for the ease of living. While the food was good and I never really missed meat (and yeah, I grabbed a burger once a week or so while out on the town), I did have some serious issues.

My stomach went haywire. I couldn't go to the bathroom one day, I couldn't get off the toilet the next. My stomach made horrible noises and usually after dinner I was still quite hungry despite having eaten a pretty hefty meal.

I decided that while one could actually live vegetarian, anything that makes my body go bonkers like that can't possibly be completely healthy. Besides, as many have already stated, our bodies were meant for meat AND vegetables. While protein itself can be got from vegetables, it's animal protein that helps to stimulate the growth of the brain and facilitates learning (I'd give you a souce for that info, but I'm lazy...I'm an archaeologist, I learned it in anthropology class).

Our bodies were meant for both. Try a balance, rather than leaping wholeheartedly one way or the other. ^-^ Balances are healthy.

From the sounds of it you had a balanced diet.
Some people just have a hard time adjusting to eating vegetables. It goes away.

[Akiromora]

arcky

From the sounds of it you had a balanced diet.
Some people just have a hard time adjusting to eating vegetables. It goes away.

I would say that at first...but this went on pretty much every day for the entire four months that I had this diet, without any sign of getting better or going away. I even went to the doctor several times thinking I was sick. All of this food was organic, usually grown in our own garden. We figured it was likely all the soy I was eating, mixed in with the lack of animal proteins that my body was used to getting.

[-] Porcelina [-]

xmistxofxdeath

xXCuddlie_Yet_ViciousXx

xmistxofxdeath

Okay, what the hell is being a vegitarian going to do? No matter how many people go vegitarian animals will STILL DIE. Animals were put on this planet to EAT. Do you know how many people DIE from not getting propper protien? My great aunt developed tremors from being a vegan. Not getting the propper food types is terrible for your body. I understand there are tofu but that's not enough. So stop pressuring people into something that isn't going to make a damn difference. Focus on something that's actually important, try animal abuse, and child abuse.

Just because you don't think that being vegetarian is important, doesn't mean it isn't.
LESS animals die as more people go vegetarian....and did you even bother to read any of the facts, or were you too lazy?

Do you understand that animals die naturally too? The LESS they are eaten the more they overpopulate. Yes, lets be taken over by goddamn animals. Yes I read the whole thing. Thanks, you don't need to correct me.

Lol, are you retarded? It's not like factory farms go out into the wild and hunt for the meat. It's all bred specifically for our consumption. If the demand for meat decreases, then less animals will be bred for that purpose. In the US, 9 billion animals are killed a year for food. That means that 9 billion a year are bred for food. Take out the animals being food part, and the animals would stop being bred and die off or be killed or whatever, and voila, we're not overrun.

It's very possible to get all the required nutrients with a vegan diet; it just takes a little bit of planning. But eating healthy in general takes a little bit of planning. Either way, I'd take tremors over heart disease. And an excess of protein (common in America because of the amount of animals and animal products we consume) is linked with calcium loss and increased osteoporosis.

I think it's hilarious that you consider animal abuse to be something "actually important," yet you don't care about factory farming. Guess what: Animals that we kill for meat and abuse/neglect for dairy and eggs are animals too! I love it when people overlook blatantly obvious things and make themselves look like morons.

[Mal Conejo]

maxi-san

Your body has what it takes to process meat, animals are part of a food chain, go out and tell the foxes to stop eating the rabbits. You have no source, you phail.

FINALLY, something wickedly easy to reply to. http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html Read that, regarding the whole "your body has what it takes to process meat." The linked article (which is actually extremely interesting, if anybody else is interested) discusses and evaluates humans' evolutionary history, from our herbivorous ancestors to today. It also contains various counter-arguments to typical anti-vegetarian arguments (goddamn I wish I'd found this earlier, it's so convenient), like "lol caninez we win kthx."

Food chain =/= animal farming industry. Also, I have sources galooooore. Galore, I say!

[Eliora]

I've been vegetarian for so long I'm going to have to readjust to be able to eat meat when I go on a home stay in Nepal. Apparently I would otherwise have some animal based diarrhea, which seems like the grossest thing in the world to be. I haven't pooped out animals (to my knowledge) since third grade. I'll be scarfing down flesh pills so I can eat goat in case it's what's offered for dinner. Yipdeedoo.

[arcky]

Akiromora

arcky

From the sounds of it you had a balanced diet.
Some people just have a hard time adjusting to eating vegetables. It goes away.

I would say that at first...but this went on pretty much every day for the entire four months that I had this diet, without any sign of getting better or going away. I even went to the doctor several times thinking I was sick. All of this food was organic, usually grown in our own garden. We figured it was likely all the soy I was eating, mixed in with the lack of animal proteins that my body was used to getting.

Oh, soy. You might have been allergic maybe? A lot of people have soy allergies.

[Demon with WhiteWings]

I'm a vegetarian because I choose to be one, I don't want to be kiling meat-eating animals or pollute the world just because of my eating of meet products.

[Mal Conejo]

volley15

I'm still going to eat meat. confused What was the point of your post? To tell us things we've all heard before but do not care about? Please tell me you are not part of PETA.

If people want to eat meat they will eat meat. Don't like it, too bad. you don't have to eat the meat. More for us.

I thought the point of my post was fairly clear. D: Oh well, reiteration allows me to further clarify.

Ahem.

Cattle farming rapes the environment. Cut back!

There we go.

More generally, meat is a poor medium through which to transfer resources into energy.

No, I'm not a member of PETA. Some of those guys kind of scare me, sometimes. Even I'LL admit that.

[Akiromora]

Nah, probably not soy allergies, since I eat a fair amount of soy things. It was basically a mix of hardly any meat, and then an increase in soy intake. ie, eating tofu won't hurt me, but eating tofu every day for a week will make my tummy unhappy. I imagine the same could be said of many foods, including meats. ^^

Overall, I just didn't feel as healthy as a vegetarian as I did with my usual diet. And to be honest, it's not like I'm a meataholic - I usually have it like once a day. But upon eliminating that, I really didn't feel so good as I did before.