[ Poll ] The World of Warcraft Discussion Thread

What old world instance do you want to see in Heroic?

Just give me my gold!		21.9%	[ 413 ]
The Deadmines		14.5%	[ 273 ]
Gnomeregan		5.0%	[ 95 ]
Scarlet Monastery		20.4%	[ 384 ]
Blackrock Depths		7.0%	[ 131 ]
Maraudon		3.1%	[ 59 ]
Uldaman		2.5%	[ 47 ]
Zul'Farrak		5.6%	[ 105 ]
Shadowfang Keep		12.7%	[ 240 ]
Other (please specify)		7.3%	[ 137 ]

Total Votes: 1884

[Pouncey]

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

derelict waifer

I understand.

It seems even if DPS requirements are absent, some players may spend too much time looking at keyboards or action bars to notice what's happening to their characters.

True enough. : 3

On another note, I was healing Brewfest earlier today on my shammy. The first couple of times, the DPS kept pulling aggro. So before the third pull, I said, "Know what? If you pull aggro, I'ma let you die. There's no reason to take much damage on this fight, not with THIS group."

And after that, they had no problems keeping their threat down. : D

I had the same issue on a healer priest of mine a long while back. I was healing for Blood Furnace and the Rogue kept pulling and I told him "If you do that again, I'm not saving your a**", and I even went so far as to tell the tank that, if he did, to not grab aggro for a bit. Sure enough, Rogue pulled and, with me and the tank staying out of it, he died. Of course, the tank then pulled before our other dps got spanked. When I finally got around to ressing him... (Taking my time to drink, rebuff people, and chat with the mage), I asked him if he needed a repeat to stop from pulling.

He never pulled again. XD

Heh.

My dad plays a tank, and he doesn't save anyone except the healer. He's well-geared enough that if people pull off of him, odds are very good that they're not attacking his target.

He says that if he tries to pull a mob other than his target off a DPS, then the DPS who are doing their jobs and attacking the tank's target start to pull, because he's no longer attacking them. This often results in a wipe as he keeps having to pull mob after mob off the DPS, and can't save them all.

Also, nice avatar. : D

On my 28 Belf Rogue, our tank was having the same issue. My damage was so much higher than his that I pulled off him CONSTANTLY. The diff was that I was a MUCH higher level than the mobs, so I was dodging more than 75% of the time. I was helping some guildies there, thus why I was so much higher. Tank didn't have to worry about me.

But I HATE raiding with DK tanks. I have yet to meet one who my healer Pally does not pull off in raids. Worst I had was the DK held for about twenty seconds before I started healing him. After three heals, aggro dropped off him and his entire mob went for me. And this was with threat-reducing stuff on me. Regardless, a group of 10 went gunning straight for the healer, and I died.

And the group then had the gall to be like 'WTF, healer, help out!!'

Well, I would if the tank didn't get me killed! Dumbass dps people... I don't get how people can acknowledge that it's a wipe if the MT dies, but NEVER consider how bad it is if the HEALER dies.

After playing as a healer so often, you begin to see why all raids usually have that little warning; "Do NOT piss off the healer. Just don't."

Had one raid that pissed me off SOOOOOOO much. Raid leader was acting like tough s**t, blaming pulls on others, etc. At one point, he got on my case saying I ripped aggro too fast, my heals suck, etc and I got pissed enough I simply dropped group. Over Vent, I heard one guy, our mage, go "Oh, ********, LOOK WHAT YOU DID, YOU DUMBASS". As the wipe began. After, he was ike 'WTF, healer, why you do that?!' while the rest of the group was begging me come back.

I said 'fine, but we get a new tank', and the entire raid agreed.

Main Healer > Main Tank. MT might think what he says goes, but that's only because the MH isn't saying anything. You can get a new MT. Good luck on a new MH.

EDIT: Glad you like my avi. =D

:: I nod :: There was this one EoE my dad was healing in. He could keep the MT up, but only by spamming Holy Light. Doing this, he goes oom in about a minute. So the MT kept blaming him for the wipes. I forget what happened with that, but the next EoE my dad did, he healed and had NO problem keeping the tank up using FoL only. The tank from the first one had lots of health, but very little avoidance.

[Milady Chris Lightfellow]

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

derelict waifer

I understand.

It seems even if DPS requirements are absent, some players may spend too much time looking at keyboards or action bars to notice what's happening to their characters.

True enough. : 3

On another note, I was healing Brewfest earlier today on my shammy. The first couple of times, the DPS kept pulling aggro. So before the third pull, I said, "Know what? If you pull aggro, I'ma let you die. There's no reason to take much damage on this fight, not with THIS group."

And after that, they had no problems keeping their threat down. : D

I had the same issue on a healer priest of mine a long while back. I was healing for Blood Furnace and the Rogue kept pulling and I told him "If you do that again, I'm not saving your a**", and I even went so far as to tell the tank that, if he did, to not grab aggro for a bit. Sure enough, Rogue pulled and, with me and the tank staying out of it, he died. Of course, the tank then pulled before our other dps got spanked. When I finally got around to ressing him... (Taking my time to drink, rebuff people, and chat with the mage), I asked him if he needed a repeat to stop from pulling.

He never pulled again. XD

Heh.

My dad plays a tank, and he doesn't save anyone except the healer. He's well-geared enough that if people pull off of him, odds are very good that they're not attacking his target.

He says that if he tries to pull a mob other than his target off a DPS, then the DPS who are doing their jobs and attacking the tank's target start to pull, because he's no longer attacking them. This often results in a wipe as he keeps having to pull mob after mob off the DPS, and can't save them all.

Also, nice avatar. : D

On my 28 Belf Rogue, our tank was having the same issue. My damage was so much higher than his that I pulled off him CONSTANTLY. The diff was that I was a MUCH higher level than the mobs, so I was dodging more than 75% of the time. I was helping some guildies there, thus why I was so much higher. Tank didn't have to worry about me.

But I HATE raiding with DK tanks. I have yet to meet one who my healer Pally does not pull off in raids. Worst I had was the DK held for about twenty seconds before I started healing him. After three heals, aggro dropped off him and his entire mob went for me. And this was with threat-reducing stuff on me. Regardless, a group of 10 went gunning straight for the healer, and I died.

And the group then had the gall to be like 'WTF, healer, help out!!'

Well, I would if the tank didn't get me killed! Dumbass dps people... I don't get how people can acknowledge that it's a wipe if the MT dies, but NEVER consider how bad it is if the HEALER dies.

After playing as a healer so often, you begin to see why all raids usually have that little warning; "Do NOT piss off the healer. Just don't."

Had one raid that pissed me off SOOOOOOO much. Raid leader was acting like tough s**t, blaming pulls on others, etc. At one point, he got on my case saying I ripped aggro too fast, my heals suck, etc and I got pissed enough I simply dropped group. Over Vent, I heard one guy, our mage, go "Oh, ********, LOOK WHAT YOU DID, YOU DUMBASS". As the wipe began. After, he was ike 'WTF, healer, why you do that?!' while the rest of the group was begging me come back.

I said 'fine, but we get a new tank', and the entire raid agreed.

Main Healer > Main Tank. MT might think what he says goes, but that's only because the MH isn't saying anything. You can get a new MT. Good luck on a new MH.

EDIT: Glad you like my avi. =D

:: I nod :: There was this one EoE my dad was healing in. He could keep the MT up, but only by spamming Holy Light. Doing this, he goes oom in about a minute. So the MT kept blaming him for the wipes. I forget what happened with that, but the next EoE my dad did, he healed and had NO problem keeping the tank up using FoL only. The tank from the first one had lots of health, but very little avoidance.

Some tanks don't understand that avoidance, parry rating, and block rating are FAR more important than high stam to be a good tank. You don't have to TAKE lots of damage to be a tank... you have to be able to avoid it.

[Pouncey]

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

I had the same issue on a healer priest of mine a long while back. I was healing for Blood Furnace and the Rogue kept pulling and I told him "If you do that again, I'm not saving your a**", and I even went so far as to tell the tank that, if he did, to not grab aggro for a bit. Sure enough, Rogue pulled and, with me and the tank staying out of it, he died. Of course, the tank then pulled before our other dps got spanked. When I finally got around to ressing him... (Taking my time to drink, rebuff people, and chat with the mage), I asked him if he needed a repeat to stop from pulling.

He never pulled again. XD

Heh.

My dad plays a tank, and he doesn't save anyone except the healer. He's well-geared enough that if people pull off of him, odds are very good that they're not attacking his target.

He says that if he tries to pull a mob other than his target off a DPS, then the DPS who are doing their jobs and attacking the tank's target start to pull, because he's no longer attacking them. This often results in a wipe as he keeps having to pull mob after mob off the DPS, and can't save them all.

Also, nice avatar. : D

On my 28 Belf Rogue, our tank was having the same issue. My damage was so much higher than his that I pulled off him CONSTANTLY. The diff was that I was a MUCH higher level than the mobs, so I was dodging more than 75% of the time. I was helping some guildies there, thus why I was so much higher. Tank didn't have to worry about me.

But I HATE raiding with DK tanks. I have yet to meet one who my healer Pally does not pull off in raids. Worst I had was the DK held for about twenty seconds before I started healing him. After three heals, aggro dropped off him and his entire mob went for me. And this was with threat-reducing stuff on me. Regardless, a group of 10 went gunning straight for the healer, and I died.

And the group then had the gall to be like 'WTF, healer, help out!!'

Well, I would if the tank didn't get me killed! Dumbass dps people... I don't get how people can acknowledge that it's a wipe if the MT dies, but NEVER consider how bad it is if the HEALER dies.

After playing as a healer so often, you begin to see why all raids usually have that little warning; "Do NOT piss off the healer. Just don't."

Had one raid that pissed me off SOOOOOOO much. Raid leader was acting like tough s**t, blaming pulls on others, etc. At one point, he got on my case saying I ripped aggro too fast, my heals suck, etc and I got pissed enough I simply dropped group. Over Vent, I heard one guy, our mage, go "Oh, ********, LOOK WHAT YOU DID, YOU DUMBASS". As the wipe began. After, he was ike 'WTF, healer, why you do that?!' while the rest of the group was begging me come back.

I said 'fine, but we get a new tank', and the entire raid agreed.

Main Healer > Main Tank. MT might think what he says goes, but that's only because the MH isn't saying anything. You can get a new MT. Good luck on a new MH.

EDIT: Glad you like my avi. =D

:: I nod :: There was this one EoE my dad was healing in. He could keep the MT up, but only by spamming Holy Light. Doing this, he goes oom in about a minute. So the MT kept blaming him for the wipes. I forget what happened with that, but the next EoE my dad did, he healed and had NO problem keeping the tank up using FoL only. The tank from the first one had lots of health, but very little avoidance.

Some tanks don't understand that avoidance, parry rating, and block rating are FAR more important than high stam to be a good tank. You don't have to TAKE lots of damage to be a tank... you have to be able to avoid it.

:: I nod :: Additional health doesn't hurt, but avoidance is better.

[karasu_sysichi]

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

I had the same issue on a healer priest of mine a long while back. I was healing for Blood Furnace and the Rogue kept pulling and I told him "If you do that again, I'm not saving your a**", and I even went so far as to tell the tank that, if he did, to not grab aggro for a bit. Sure enough, Rogue pulled and, with me and the tank staying out of it, he died. Of course, the tank then pulled before our other dps got spanked. When I finally got around to ressing him... (Taking my time to drink, rebuff people, and chat with the mage), I asked him if he needed a repeat to stop from pulling.

He never pulled again. XD

Heh.

My dad plays a tank, and he doesn't save anyone except the healer. He's well-geared enough that if people pull off of him, odds are very good that they're not attacking his target.

He says that if he tries to pull a mob other than his target off a DPS, then the DPS who are doing their jobs and attacking the tank's target start to pull, because he's no longer attacking them. This often results in a wipe as he keeps having to pull mob after mob off the DPS, and can't save them all.

Also, nice avatar. : D

On my 28 Belf Rogue, our tank was having the same issue. My damage was so much higher than his that I pulled off him CONSTANTLY. The diff was that I was a MUCH higher level than the mobs, so I was dodging more than 75% of the time. I was helping some guildies there, thus why I was so much higher. Tank didn't have to worry about me.

But I HATE raiding with DK tanks. I have yet to meet one who my healer Pally does not pull off in raids. Worst I had was the DK held for about twenty seconds before I started healing him. After three heals, aggro dropped off him and his entire mob went for me. And this was with threat-reducing stuff on me. Regardless, a group of 10 went gunning straight for the healer, and I died.

And the group then had the gall to be like 'WTF, healer, help out!!'

Well, I would if the tank didn't get me killed! Dumbass dps people... I don't get how people can acknowledge that it's a wipe if the MT dies, but NEVER consider how bad it is if the HEALER dies.

After playing as a healer so often, you begin to see why all raids usually have that little warning; "Do NOT piss off the healer. Just don't."

Had one raid that pissed me off SOOOOOOO much. Raid leader was acting like tough s**t, blaming pulls on others, etc. At one point, he got on my case saying I ripped aggro too fast, my heals suck, etc and I got pissed enough I simply dropped group. Over Vent, I heard one guy, our mage, go "Oh, ********, LOOK WHAT YOU DID, YOU DUMBASS". As the wipe began. After, he was ike 'WTF, healer, why you do that?!' while the rest of the group was begging me come back.

I said 'fine, but we get a new tank', and the entire raid agreed.

Main Healer > Main Tank. MT might think what he says goes, but that's only because the MH isn't saying anything. You can get a new MT. Good luck on a new MH.

EDIT: Glad you like my avi. =D

:: I nod :: There was this one EoE my dad was healing in. He could keep the MT up, but only by spamming Holy Light. Doing this, he goes oom in about a minute. So the MT kept blaming him for the wipes. I forget what happened with that, but the next EoE my dad did, he healed and had NO problem keeping the tank up using FoL only. The tank from the first one had lots of health, but very little avoidance.

Some tanks don't understand that avoidance, parry rating, and block rating are FAR more important than high stam to be a good tank. You don't have to TAKE lots of damage to be a tank... you have to be able to avoid it.

:: I nod :: Additional health doesn't hurt, but avoidance is better.

Quoting the big long post of doom. As a Tank myself, I'm generally looked over for MT capabilities because of my comparatively low health to other in my identical gear. Because I don't just put a +30 stam gem in every gem slot. Which is alot of what I'm seeing for gemming anymore. But anyone in my old ten man group will tell you, I am better than someone with more health.

We had a general Vezak fight where, due to some mis-communication, we had an enrage with no cool down. We were like... 'hoshit, we dead.' But by some freak of luck, I actually managed to dodge/parry every attack. We still wiped, but by no fault of myself or the healers. So we counted it a great try.

[Phoenix_Omega]

i should try a good mix because on the stronger bosses, i would dodge like none other, but when i got hit i would lose like half my health ( but then again i had weaker gear at the time. i should see how much i can dodge and parry being fully stacked. just to see if i'm invicible biggrin

[Eyatare]

I joined a raid to get the TK achievement... Kael'thas glitched after we downed his advisers the second time.

[Pouncey]

karasu_sysichi

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Pouncey

Milady Chris Lightfellow

On my 28 Belf Rogue, our tank was having the same issue. My damage was so much higher than his that I pulled off him CONSTANTLY. The diff was that I was a MUCH higher level than the mobs, so I was dodging more than 75% of the time. I was helping some guildies there, thus why I was so much higher. Tank didn't have to worry about me.

But I HATE raiding with DK tanks. I have yet to meet one who my healer Pally does not pull off in raids. Worst I had was the DK held for about twenty seconds before I started healing him. After three heals, aggro dropped off him and his entire mob went for me. And this was with threat-reducing stuff on me. Regardless, a group of 10 went gunning straight for the healer, and I died.

And the group then had the gall to be like 'WTF, healer, help out!!'

Well, I would if the tank didn't get me killed! Dumbass dps people... I don't get how people can acknowledge that it's a wipe if the MT dies, but NEVER consider how bad it is if the HEALER dies.

After playing as a healer so often, you begin to see why all raids usually have that little warning; "Do NOT piss off the healer. Just don't."

Had one raid that pissed me off SOOOOOOO much. Raid leader was acting like tough s**t, blaming pulls on others, etc. At one point, he got on my case saying I ripped aggro too fast, my heals suck, etc and I got pissed enough I simply dropped group. Over Vent, I heard one guy, our mage, go "Oh, ********, LOOK WHAT YOU DID, YOU DUMBASS". As the wipe began. After, he was ike 'WTF, healer, why you do that?!' while the rest of the group was begging me come back.

I said 'fine, but we get a new tank', and the entire raid agreed.

Main Healer > Main Tank. MT might think what he says goes, but that's only because the MH isn't saying anything. You can get a new MT. Good luck on a new MH.

EDIT: Glad you like my avi. =D

:: I nod :: There was this one EoE my dad was healing in. He could keep the MT up, but only by spamming Holy Light. Doing this, he goes oom in about a minute. So the MT kept blaming him for the wipes. I forget what happened with that, but the next EoE my dad did, he healed and had NO problem keeping the tank up using FoL only. The tank from the first one had lots of health, but very little avoidance.

Some tanks don't understand that avoidance, parry rating, and block rating are FAR more important than high stam to be a good tank. You don't have to TAKE lots of damage to be a tank... you have to be able to avoid it.

:: I nod :: Additional health doesn't hurt, but avoidance is better.

Quoting the big long post of doom. As a Tank myself, I'm generally looked over for MT capabilities because of my comparatively low health to other in my identical gear. Because I don't just put a +30 stam gem in every gem slot. Which is alot of what I'm seeing for gemming anymore. But anyone in my old ten man group will tell you, I am better than someone with more health.

We had a general Vezak fight where, due to some mis-communication, we had an enrage with no cool down. We were like... 'hoshit, we dead.' But by some freak of luck, I actually managed to dodge/parry every attack. We still wiped, but by no fault of myself or the healers. So we counted it a great try.

:: dreamy sigh :: If only players could enrage... At least we get a frenzy, what with heroism.

[Natsa]

Milady Chris Lightfellow

Natsa

Omgawd I was sooo farming for my engineering epic flyer!

My dad nicely gave me the last of the gold I needed to get the epic mount training or whatever and I didn't have the engineering mats and there is NO way I'm buying them from the Auction House...

Unless I get desperate.

I mean I can do other stuff in the meantime but I was doing soo good! And when it gets up everyone would have started coming home from school and what not so there will be more people farming.

Ugh I sound like a complete dork/nerd. -.-;

Never buy anything off the AH. I'm guessing you're Alliance, but it's the same with Horde. Our AH prices SUCK. I mean, I'm looking at Level 10 green daggers going for 3g right now on Eredar (PVP).

Enchanters. I blame it on Enchanters. I've seen level 80 purples for less than that!!

... Oh, purple fist weapon for 2g! *buys*

It can't hurt to be prepared for when I hit 70! heart

Does anyone else play on Eredar? I'm so lonely... =(

Well I'm actually both. But I've been on my horde recently, which I am speaking about. The AH prices are horrible on my server too. They're wanting 1 Khorium bar for like 30g =/ ... It's ridiculous.

And on Alliance I've been trying to gain rep with the Thorium Brotherhood, and the Dark Iron was hecka expensive on Alliance, but seeing what the horde had priced it at I bought it all. Haha, but it's still WAY not enough for gaining reputation, seeing that it only gives you 75, but paying 30g for 500 rep, I mean if I bought that instead of the same amount of Dark Iron it might be a better price, but it just looks more pricey. I WANT THE INTELLECT ENCHANT! AHH!

I've been selling Mammoth Cutters on my troll, the engineer, I find Saronite farming easy, but Cobalt just drives me insane, but with the prices that are on the AH I haven't decided what to do haha.

But yea, Windrunner (PVE) ... The prices can get pretty bad! xD

[Luufie]

Introduction:

Hey there! My name is Luufie, I just recently started playing World of Warcraft, and recently got back on Gaia Online. I am 22 years and an obvious female, find out more on my profile <3

It will be awesome to meet you all. :3

Character name: Saldaea
Class: Priest
Usual spec: Holy
Race: Night Elf
Level: 20
Professions: Herbalism, Alchemist, Fishing
Realm: Korialstrasz

[Edward E!ric]

I never knew organizing a raid group could be so fun. I just helped organize/lead a raid against the Alliance leaders, and we managed to completely obliterate them. Didn't even take 30 min. pirate

[l p a n d a e y e s l]

OH MY GOD
My guild just did TOC 25 heroic and finally got icehowl down.
Pro mage took icehowl down!
ice enraged and went to the middle for the charge,
emetic ice blocked it and then went and took that b!tch out
Screen shot
yes I know shows my dps low,
but I realized like 30 minutes after the raid ended that i was using the orb of deception rofl
guild site
>.<

[Shoujo Kakumei J-chan]

I haven't actually logged into WoW (or updated my client, lol) since about May... I really need to download patches and play again. I hear there's new content.

I wonder if my old guild even still exists...

[Monster Parade]

Isn't Shadowfang Keep going to have heroic to it soon?

[Edward E!ric]

Monster Parade

Isn't Shadowfang Keep going to have heroic to it soon?

Next expansion. 3nodding

[Queen Sylvanas Windrunner]

3nodding