Sakurai comments on the Old 3DS limitations for Smash Bros.

[Essential Essence]

Forcing character parity for different games with no cross-compatibility? Why?

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First, regarding the roster, Sakurai mentioned that even though many characters are included, there are some who worry about those who didn’t make the cut. He specifically addresses the absence of the Ice Climbers as well. It seems they were running in the Wii U version, but due to the required hardware power, the team couldn’t make them work in the 3DS game. There wasn’t as high a priority given to series that are unlikely to have another installment at this time.

Way to sell that new hardware!

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(What is the reason that the game supports the New 3DS' C-Stick, but not the Circle Pad Pro?)

"Supporting the CCP requires the use of some of the CPU's processing load. From the information received during the development of Kid Icarus: Uprising, this is a quite large load at around 5%. Kid Icarus: Uprising and Smash both use the maximum capability of the device, so we had to abandon the idea of CCP support.

With the New 3DS, we were able to support the C-Stick as the processing power is increased and it is not a peripheral device

A change for the better, IMO.

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Unlike the past installments of the series in Melee and Brawl, Zelda and Sheik are their own characters in Super Smash Bros. for 3DS, rather than players being able to transform between the two. In this week’s issue of Famitsu magazine, director Masahiro Sakurai explained why this is the case.

“It’s basically due to the 3DS’ limitations,” said Sakurai, when asked why Zelda and Sheik, and Samus and Zerosuit Samus, are different characters. “It was impossible to have both characters exist together [as one] on 3DS.”

He continued, “However, reaching that limit can sometimes lead in good directions. Transforming characters had the drawback of ambiguous tactics and such, and I believe that they have become more fresh now."

[The 1995 Undertaker]

Ice Climbers. Rest...In...Peace. Unngh.

[Fated raison detre]

Who cares. It's not like there is a shortage of characters.

[Essential Essence]

Fated raison detre

Who cares. It's not like there is a shortage of characters.

I'd take the unique play style of the Ice Climbers over the plethora of redundant clones introduced in Smash 4, personally.

If they were already running in the Wii U game, is there any real reason to not include them in that version?

[Liightning]

Unique playstyle. You mean 0-death chaingrabs?

[Fated raison detre]

Essential Essence

Fated raison detre

Who cares. It's not like there is a shortage of characters.

I'd take the unique play style of the Ice Climbers over the plethora of redundant clones introduced in Smash 4, personally.

If they were already running in the Wii U game, is there any real reason to not include them in that version?

There is. Their entire market campaign for both versions was that The same roster is on both games. Putting ice climbers in one version but not the other would be false advertising and open Nintendo to a plethora of lawsuits.

[mon-tann]

NOOOOOOOOOOO--

[dumb lucario]

Fated raison detre

Who cares. It's not like there is a shortage of characters.

As someone who enjoyed playing as Ice Climbers, I have to agree with this post, because there is forty-eight friggin' characters to choose from, along with the ability to make Mii fighters. Then again, people are still whining over the fact that Mewtwo and Ridley still aren't in the game. Some are even going as far as cancelling their pre-orders for that reason alone, along with the fact that they brought back Dr. Mario and Sakurai being biased about Kid Icarus.

[The_Dude]

Hopefully they make a return in the Wii U in DLC or something

[smashbrolink]

Essential Essence

Fated raison detre

Who cares. It's not like there is a shortage of characters.

I'd take the unique play style of the Ice Climbers over the plethora of redundant clones introduced in Smash 4, personally.

If they were already running in the Wii U game, is there any real reason to not include them in that version?

Yes, there is; Sakurai promised roster parity, so that players who own one version or the other don't feel like they don't have the full game.

Also, Rosalina&Luma are like Ice Climbers Deluxe.
Luma:
- Can be resummoned if it dies.
- Does not affect Rosalina's recovery ability if it's not present.
- Can be far more accurately controlled, and its spacing can also be manually selected for even better zoning/spacing.

The only thing that Luma can't do that Nana and Popo could, is use chain grabs, but since Smash 4 is designed so that you can't perform another grab for at least a full second after performing one successfully, that's basically a non-factor now anyways.

Anything that Ice Climbers veterans ever wanted out of a two-person team character, can be had from R&L, only better.

[smashbrolink]

Lan Sukasa

Fated raison detre

Who cares. It's not like there is a shortage of characters.

As someone who enjoyed playing as Ice Climbers, I have to agree with this post, because there is forty-eight friggin' characters to choose from, along with the ability to make Mii fighters. Then again, people are still whining over the fact that Mewtwo and Ridley still aren't in the game. Some are even going as far as cancelling their pre-orders for that reason alone, along with the fact that they brought back Dr. Mario and Sakurai being biased about Kid Icarus.

Rosalina&Luma will still scratch that itch, if you're looking for a character with similar gameplay to IC's.

[Enthusiastic Arsonist]

THEY DIDN DO NUFFIN!

[ventti 60 original papers]

Eh, I never really liked playing as them anyways.

[YunaSama]

Fated raison detre

Who cares. It's not like there is a shortage of characters.

Agreed... Even if some characters didn't make it in, there are plenty of new ones that make up for it pretty well... I don't understand why ppl are so edgy about wanting to play the same damn character with every new game? It's not like you can't play the old games anymore if you want to play a character that badly anyway... cat_neutral

[qface64x]

neveer cared about them but i find this annoying because it raises the question what else did they cut because the 3DS couldn't handle it?
makes no sense for the 3DS version to hold back the wii u version since they can't even interact with one another

heck it also raises the question why couldn't the 3DS handle it? the gamecube and wii could but not the 3DS? huh