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I secretly love Joffrey too! 0.17142857142857 17.1% [ 12 ]
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*Spins around pole in LittleFingers brothel 0.14285714285714 14.3% [ 10 ]
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I hope Daenerys dragons eat him
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I think some villains have redeeming qualities and cause you to have a love/hate relationship for them. Not in all cases though. At a certain level cruelty cannot be forgive.

Some people/characters you can grasp where they came from and why they ended up the way they did. Your example of Snape for instance. I thought he was so well written. I wish the movies gave him more time on screen. I honestly at first found myself hating Snape and then by the end of the 5th book I loved him. With Snape we see that he does know how to love. He does care for people. He's not perfect...he's human. We learn about his inner struggle with Harry. He has sworn his life to protect him out of his love for Lily but at the same time Harry is too much his father's son. Every time he looks at him he is reminded of all the horrible pranks that James did. Does he act coldly towards Harry, yes. But when it counted, when it was important, he did everything he could to save him.

You can love the fact that someone makes a good villain.

Voldermort, I have no love for. He was completely evil even as a child. I have a hard time identifying with people who have no redeeming qualities. He made a good villain. When something/someone is pure evil they always make for a good villain. Good vs Evil always appeals to people.

Joffery....I hate that blond little monster. He was wrote to be hated and the actor surely makes you hate him on screen. He has no sense of empathy, no love, no compassion. I place a lot of blame on Cersi for the way he grew up. When Stanis is talking to Davos about Jeoffry...telling the story about the cat. He killed a pregnant cat, then cut open her stomach and killed each and every one of the kittens. I was deeply sickened by it. Then all the hells that he puts Sansa through. First the emotional pains he put her through. Watching her father be killed, constantly reminding her of it. Telling her how he is going ot do the same to her brother. Then there is him having her beaten. He had her stripped in front of his guard. Then when she finally thinks that she will be free and safe from him because he is marrying someone else. He tells her of how he plans to rape her over and over again. He leaves a bad taste in my mouth. He like his mother wants complete power but he uses it to fuel the fires of his hatred. If he wasn't such a sissy I am sure it would be even worse. I could see him growing up to be a serial killer if he ever grew some balls.
Again, I sill blame Cersi for the way he is. I mean if you look at the other 2 children, they are normal. Tommen infact is a very sweet and loving child. But they were raised more by teachers and servants I feel.

As for Little Finger. I like his character. He is very intelligent. He would be an expert at chess. He is very good at making people into pawns and moving them where he wants them to go. Although, there are some things are are beyond his control for sure. i.e. Ned's death. He didn't want him dead, just out of the way.


Thank you so much for responding. I see where you're coming from, but honestly, even you can place most of the blame for his behavior on Cersei. So, how evil is Joffrey really? Looking at things from a medical/psychological perspective, Joffrey is a sociopath. He can be charming and smooth one moment and violently unstable the next. He takes perverse pleasure in watching others hurt others. He doesn't have the courage to do it himself. Also, he is a coward. However, with help, sociopaths can fight their urges and live nearly normal lives. Instead of being disciplined and being given boundaries, which all children need, he was giving a free pass to be as wicked as he desired without ever facing consequences for his actions. *spoilers*Except, of course, his father's reaction to the slaughter of the pregnant cat.*end spoilers*

It was this coddling from his mother that made him what he is. Why does she do that? what is that reason that Cersei is the way she is? Where, ultimately, does the blame lie? Where does the blame lie with Voldemort? Are people ever really born evil? What decisions do people make that effect others and make them act the way they do? That is what is interesting, that is where the drama lies.
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Hmph, why would my Uncle Jaime do such a thing?
Don't you mean your daddy Jaime? See, it's not your fault. You were just born that way, it's in your dna.
You are calling me que-eeerrr. ROBERT BARATHEON IS MY FATHER! classified_fu
Sorry but no.

Plus, props on the Avenue Q reference. However, I was referring to being inbred, not homosexual.
I refuse to listen to listen to this nonsense any further. I have arranged for an appointment with you and the hound.
What, you mean.. my bff the hound?
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Also this. Cause I heart you.
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And also this.
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Hmph, why would my Uncle Jaime do such a thing?
Don't you mean your daddy Jaime? See, it's not your fault. You were just born that way, it's in your dna.
You are calling me que-eeerrr. ROBERT BARATHEON IS MY FATHER! classified_fu
Sorry but no.

Plus, props on the Avenue Q reference. However, I was referring to being inbred, not homosexual.
I refuse to listen to listen to this nonsense any further. I have arranged for an appointment with you and the hound.
What, you mean.. my bff the hound?
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Also this. Cause I heart you.
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And also this.
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And this, because I heart you so huggy-muggy much Prince Jeffrey.

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I wonder, if I show you enough, will your head a-splode?
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I wonder, if I show you enough, will your head a-splode?
I will deny you the pleasure of that.
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I wonder, if I show you enough, will your head a-splode?
I will deny you the pleasure of that.
Aww come on. You aren't the only one who gets off on violence inflicted on others. crying
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I wonder, if I show you enough, will your head a-splode?
I will deny you the pleasure of that.
Aww come on. You aren't the only one who gets off on violence inflicted on others. crying
Oh? Does Sansa finally share my pleasure...our chamber experience will be most enjoyable when the time is right.
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I wonder, if I show you enough, will your head a-splode?
I will deny you the pleasure of that.
Aww come on. You aren't the only one who gets off on violence inflicted on others. crying
Oh? Does Sansa finally share my pleasure...our chamber experience will be most enjoyable when the time is right.
I doubt that, sweet prince, because, as Ros tried to explain, too much pain ruins the pleasure. Can you even get it up without the sight of blood?
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I wonder, if I show you enough, will your head a-splode?
I will deny you the pleasure of that.
Aww come on. You aren't the only one who gets off on violence inflicted on others. crying
Oh? Does Sansa finally share my pleasure...our chamber experience will be most enjoyable when the time is right.
I doubt that, sweet prince, because, as Ros tried to explain, too much pain ruins the pleasure. Can you even get it up without the sight of blood?
Blood is more arousing then any of those whores touch.
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I will deny you the pleasure of that.
Aww come on. You aren't the only one who gets off on violence inflicted on others. crying
Oh? Does Sansa finally share my pleasure...our chamber experience will be most enjoyable when the time is right.
I doubt that, sweet prince, because, as Ros tried to explain, too much pain ruins the pleasure. Can you even get it up without the sight of blood?
Blood is more arousing then any of those whores touch.
Blood is not to meant to be arousing, your grace. Touches, on the other hand are meant to be. You need some lessons.
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I will deny you the pleasure of that.
Aww come on. You aren't the only one who gets off on violence inflicted on others. crying
Oh? Does Sansa finally share my pleasure...our chamber experience will be most enjoyable when the time is right.
I doubt that, sweet prince, because, as Ros tried to explain, too much pain ruins the pleasure. Can you even get it up without the sight of blood?
Blood is more arousing then any of those whores touch.
Blood is not to meant to be arousing, your grace. Touches, on the other hand are meant to be. You need some lessons.
Foolish woman. If you are suggesting teaching some lessons, I am afraid you find yourself in those whore's position with a crossbow aimed at you as well.
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Foolish woman. If you are suggesting teaching some lessons, I am afraid you find yourself in those whore's position with a crossbow aimed at you as well.
As if it would be the first time you pointed that thing at me. We both know you don't have the balls to fire it.
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Foolish woman. If you are suggesting teaching some lessons, I am afraid you find yourself in those whore's position with a crossbow aimed at you as well.
As if it would be the first time you pointed that thing at me. We both know you don't have the balls to fire it.
*fires*

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