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snogurl123
Just curious, but how does the population of the tank and the items in the tank effect the cuttlefish? My tank has a few items in it, 8 fish (4 goldfish, 2 arrow fish and 1 sharktooth), I've had my cuttlefish for 2 days now and its happieness is at 1002. My friend just got her cuttlefish yesterday, doesnt have any items in the tank and only 3 other fish (2 goldfish and 1 arrow fish) and her cuttlefish jumped up to 1008 over night. Our light/temp/music settings are identical though and we both feed them 5 times a day.


The items in the tank will effect the cuttlefish the same way as any other fish. Did your friend have seven other fish in her tank when she put in her cuttlefish or did she add other fish to the tank after adding it in? When adding fish to my tank, i've sometimes noticed jumps in their happiness level afterward because more happy fish will increase your aquariums overall health.

That could be the reason behind the difference in numbers. My cuttlefish has been in my tank for three days now and his happiness is at 1012. What are the settings in your aquarium?


No, she's only had the other three fish and they were in the tank before the cuttlefish. Her cuttlefish is up to 1012 now and mine is still at 1002. Our settings are Chilly, O'Lighthouse and Natural light. Maybe i'll play with the items in mine and see which one it doesn't like. Thank You.
 
     
 









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np i'll be doing some research on this as well lol so far they're really happy in the environment i have them in atm.....

todays the first day and here are the first day results i haven't changed the environment yet:
dark, kelp song, and moderate temp. also i feed almost every 2-3 hrs or whenever i have the time to log on, and its not cool to have all the stuff in this tank lol it bogs down everything 10 folds...... its gets super laggy

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I'm not trying to tell you "zomg, this thread says different!" or anything like that, but since you're going by a somewhat scientific approach, you might be interested in this Happiness Theory

Basically it's suggesting that your fish will not heart you for the exact item you just changed but will give a heart to indicate their overall status. Of the 3 settings - light/music/temp - they will give a heart if they like at least 2 of the 3.

I have tested this with my lone goldfish. For a while I just thought she was happy with absolutely any setting, but I decided to start with the idea that of all settings, boiling was likely to be one she wouldn't like. Then I went through the music track by track. On Reef Riff, I no longer got a heart. With more testing, I found that indeed, on any other song, she will always give me a heart, no matter what the temperature, because she still likes the light/music. However, on Reef Riff, she will no longer heart me on Freezing, Hot or Boiling water, which means she doesn't like those.

Under that theory, it would mean that if I had her on Reef Riff and moderate temp., she'd gain 2 happiness points, because she's mostly happy but not entirely. On any other song and a moderate or chilly temperature, she's likely to give me four points of happiness because she likes all three settings. It'd take some time to test this fully (to see if I can change how much I get a day) but it might be a way of explaining why some settings appear to be +2 and others to be +4 happiness. It also means that it would take much more effort to determine what the fish like and don't like. @_@

I'm also going to test a goldfish on a mule tonight to see if that one reacts the exact same way or if it's possible different fish of the same species have different preferences.

EDIT: My mule's goldfish appears to have the same settings. Doesn't like Reef Riff or Hot, Boiling or Freezing water. Anything else is good. I left him on Reef Riff and Boiling for tonight to see if it affects the point gain in the morning.
 
     
 
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I'm not trying to tell you "zomg, this thread says different!" or anything like that, but since you're going by a somewhat scientific approach, you might be interested in this Happiness Theory

Basically it's suggesting that your fish will not heart you for the exact item you just changed but will give a heart to indicate their overall status. Of the 3 settings - light/music/temp - they will give a heart if they like at least 2 of the 3.

I have tested this with my lone goldfish. For a while I just thought she was happy with absolutely any setting, but I decided to start with the idea that of all settings, boiling was likely to be one she wouldn't like. Then I went through the music track by track. On Reef Riff, I no longer got a heart. With more testing, I found that indeed, on any other song, she will always give me a heart, no matter what the temperature, because she still likes the light/music. However, on Reef Riff, she will no longer heart me on Freezing, Hot or Boiling water, which means she doesn't like those.

Under that theory, it would mean that if I had her on Reef Riff and moderate temp., she'd gain 2 happiness points, because she's mostly happy but not entirely. On any other song and a moderate or chilly temperature, she's likely to give me four points of happiness because she likes all three settings. It'd take some time to test this fully (to see if I can change how much I get a day) but it might be a way of explaining why some settings appear to be +2 and others to be +4 happiness. It also means that it would take much more effort to determine what the fish like and don't like. @_@

I'm also going to test a goldfish on a mule tonight to see if that one reacts the exact same way or if it's possible different fish of the same species have different preferences.

EDIT: My mule's goldfish appears to have the same settings. Doesn't like Reef Riff or Hot, Boiling or Freezing water. Anything else is good. I left him on Reef Riff and Boiling for tonight to see if it affects the point gain in the morning.


I had no idea what the hell you just said until i followed the link to the other explanation lol. So, the idea is that, fish start the day with a possible four points of happiness and every setting applied to the aquarium that they dislike will reduce their score by two. For fish that like all of the settings applied, they gain all four points. For fish that dislike one of the settings applied, they get two points. For fish that dislike two settings, they don't gain any points for the day. Then, for fish who prefer a certain lighting, if they dislike all three settings they will lose two points.

You're also saying that choosing settings that will result in a score of zero points for the day (or negative two points) is what results in a heart appearing next to your fish when you adjust your aquarium.

It does make a lot of sense and adds complexity to what fish like and dislike. With Natural light, in Moderate water, with Reef Riff, Goldflish and Arrowfish gain two points, but with the Conch Song they'll gain four points. Neither fish has a preference as to what kind of light they're in, so it means they definitely like Moderate water and the Conch Song. Also, it makes sense of all the problems with Cuttlefish. Since they like two songs and two temperatures and have a light preference, they're harder to please.

It doesn't require any more effort to understand their preferences than what i've alread done though... You just need to pick a light setting, pick a temperature setting, then cycle through each song with both of those on and watch your fish's response. Once you've tried every song, change your temperature, and start over. If a fish has a lighting preference, you'll see a combination of light and temperature where they aren't happy regardless of what music you play. That means you've immediately found what they don't like in terms of temperature and light. To find out what music they prefer, switch the lighting to their preferred setting, keep the temperature on the setting they dislike and cycle through the songs. The songs that cause the little heart to not appear are the ones they don't like.

If a fish doesn't have a preferred lighting, there won't be a temperature resulting in them disliking every kind of music. There will, however, be a temperature where they like every kind of music. A temperature causing this, is one they prefer. To find out what music they like, switch to a temperature they dislike. The songs that still cause a heart to appear are ones that they really like.

This also means that the information that guide you linked to is missing is that Starfish prefer Hot, Moderate, or Chilly water, prefer The Conch Song, Seashell Shock, Ballad of the Overseer, and Coral Love, but don't have a preference in terms of the light in your aquarium. It also means the short rant preceding her list is a little unwarranted. Having developed a theory on a point system, she should understand how it might seem confusing, especially when she (and other lists) say "this is what fish like". When you "like" something, it means you "dislike" something. If a fish dislikes something, it's not unreasonable to assume that it'll make them unhappy. She just established that fish happiness is not that simple. That being said, she should be a little understanding of people questioning her. If i'm reading a guide and my fish is happy with a setting it says they'll dislike, i'm more interested in seeing their proof than providing mine.

Instead of ranting, she could have just said: "these are the things that fish prefer. follow these settings and they'll gain four points a day. ignore one setting, and they'll gain two. ignoring two settings will keep them from gaining points. three settings that aren't in their preferred list will result in them losing two points."

ANYWAY, thank you for sharing this information! I'm going to use my research to change my aquarium settings. If all my fish go up by four tomorrow, then i'll have to adjust the way my guide is laid out.
 
     
 
I wasn't saying her guide was perfect. I just wanted to point out her newest theory on happiness because it's the first thing that made really good sense to me. People keep saying, "But my fish give me hearts, so they should be happy" when it turns out to be a bit more complicated than that. I think that's where a lot of confusion is coming from between guides. People haven't been understanding what the hearts mean so they've been getting confused as to how happy the fish actually are.

Anyway, I wish you luck with all your testing. If I ever save up enough gold to get a tank full of fancy fish, guides like this will be a big help to me. 3nodding
     
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I wasn't saying her guide was perfect. I just wanted to point out her newest theory on happiness because it's the first thing that made really good sense to me. People keep saying, "But my fish give me hearts, so they should be happy" when it turns out to be a bit more complicated than that. I think that's where a lot of confusion is coming from between guides. People haven't been understanding what the hearts mean so they've been getting confused as to how happy the fish actually are.

Anyway, I wish you luck with all your testing. If I ever save up enough gold to get a tank full of fancy fish, guides like this will be a big help to me. 3nodding


Oh i definitely agree!

Thanks again for pointing that guide out to me. I added you into my credits section, because once I get a chance to revise my information, i'll be trying to explain how the theory works as clearly as possible.
 
     
 
snogurl123
Novocain
snogurl123
Just curious, but how does the population of the tank and the items in the tank effect the cuttlefish? My tank has a few items in it, 8 fish (4 goldfish, 2 arrow fish and 1 sharktooth), I've had my cuttlefish for 2 days now and its happieness is at 1002. My friend just got her cuttlefish yesterday, doesnt have any items in the tank and only 3 other fish (2 goldfish and 1 arrow fish) and her cuttlefish jumped up to 1008 over night. Our light/temp/music settings are identical though and we both feed them 5 times a day.


The items in the tank will effect the cuttlefish the same way as any other fish. Did your friend have seven other fish in her tank when she put in her cuttlefish or did she add other fish to the tank after adding it in? When adding fish to my tank, i've sometimes noticed jumps in their happiness level afterward because more happy fish will increase your aquariums overall health.

That could be the reason behind the difference in numbers. My cuttlefish has been in my tank for three days now and his happiness is at 1012. What are the settings in your aquarium?


No, she's only had the other three fish and they were in the tank before the cuttlefish. Her cuttlefish is up to 1012 now and mine is still at 1002. Our settings are Chilly, O'Lighthouse and Natural light. Maybe i'll play with the items in mine and see which one it doesn't like. Thank You.


Well, looking at your tank now it appears as though you Cuttlefish's happiness went up to 1006. Congratulations! Did you add items to your tank in order to cause that boost? What was the health level in your tank before and after adding the items?

To try and answer your question, I added a Cuttlefish to one of my mule account's aquarium. There weren't any items in the tank (except for an Overseer) and the only other fish were two Goldfish and an Arrowfish. Initially after adding him, he was just floating in place with his eyes closed. I removed him from the tank and then readded him. I keep hearing that this is a bug though.
     
Thanks for the guide! It's very helpful for a lazy person like me sweatdrop
 
     
 
why is my tank health getting worse?
     
Pretty When I Cry
why is my tank health getting worse?


um... well, you've got to give some more information xd

what settings do you have in your aquarium? how many fish do you have? what types of fish are they? what are their happiness scores?
 
     
 
Novocain
snogurl123
Novocain
snogurl123
Just curious, but how does the population of the tank and the items in the tank effect the cuttlefish? My tank has a few items in it, 8 fish (4 goldfish, 2 arrow fish and 1 sharktooth), I've had my cuttlefish for 2 days now and its happieness is at 1002. My friend just got her cuttlefish yesterday, doesnt have any items in the tank and only 3 other fish (2 goldfish and 1 arrow fish) and her cuttlefish jumped up to 1008 over night. Our light/temp/music settings are identical though and we both feed them 5 times a day.


The items in the tank will effect the cuttlefish the same way as any other fish. Did your friend have seven other fish in her tank when she put in her cuttlefish or did she add other fish to the tank after adding it in? When adding fish to my tank, i've sometimes noticed jumps in their happiness level afterward because more happy fish will increase your aquariums overall health.

That could be the reason behind the difference in numbers. My cuttlefish has been in my tank for three days now and his happiness is at 1012. What are the settings in your aquarium?


No, she's only had the other three fish and they were in the tank before the cuttlefish. Her cuttlefish is up to 1012 now and mine is still at 1002. Our settings are Chilly, O'Lighthouse and Natural light. Maybe i'll play with the items in mine and see which one it doesn't like. Thank You.


Well, looking at your tank now it appears as though you Cuttlefish's happiness went up to 1006. Congratulations! Did you add items to your tank in order to cause that boost? What was the health level in your tank before and after adding the items?

To try and answer your question, I added a Cuttlefish to one of my mule account's aquarium. There weren't any items in the tank (except for an Overseer) and the only other fish were two Goldfish and an Arrowfish. Initially after adding him, he was just floating in place with his eyes closed. I removed him from the tank and then readded him. I keep hearing that this is a bug though.


I don't really know what it is then. Maybe its just her fish. She put in an aquarium jewel last night as the only decoration and her Cuttlefish jumped from 1012 to 1024. So I think its obvious that the fish likes the jewel. I'll just play around with my account and find out what it doesn't like in my tank. Thank you for your help.
     
4 goldfish-7026,7024,7032,&7020
2 arrowfish- 12020 and 12028
1 cuttlefish-1004

light: natural
music: reef riff
temp: hot
 
     
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4 goldfish-7026,7024,7032,&7020
2 arrowfish- 12020 and 12028
1 cuttlefish-1004

light: natural
music: reef riff
temp: hot


Goldfish don't prefer Hot water or Reef Riff, so none of them are happy right now. They're making up over half of the population of fish in your tank, which is probably why your aquarium's health level is going down.

Change your water to Moderate or Chilly, because your Arrowfish are the only ones that prefer Hot water. Then change your song to anything but Reef Riff, lol. That's the one song that Goldfish don't like. O' Lighthouse is a good pick for your Cuttlefish, while your Arrowfish will like The Conch Song, Ballad of the Overseer, and Kelp! the best. That should make all of your fish happier, and your aquarium's health will go back up.
     
snogurl123
Novocain
snogurl123
Novocain
snogurl123
Just curious, but how does the population of the tank and the items in the tank effect the cuttlefish? My tank has a few items in it, 8 fish (4 goldfish, 2 arrow fish and 1 sharktooth), I've had my cuttlefish for 2 days now and its happieness is at 1002. My friend just got her cuttlefish yesterday, doesnt have any items in the tank and only 3 other fish (2 goldfish and 1 arrow fish) and her cuttlefish jumped up to 1008 over night. Our light/temp/music settings are identical though and we both feed them 5 times a day.


The items in the tank will effect the cuttlefish the same way as any other fish. Did your friend have seven other fish in her tank when she put in her cuttlefish or did she add other fish to the tank after adding it in? When adding fish to my tank, i've sometimes noticed jumps in their happiness level afterward because more happy fish will increase your aquariums overall health.

That could be the reason behind the difference in numbers. My cuttlefish has been in my tank for three days now and his happiness is at 1012. What are the settings in your aquarium?


No, she's only had the other three fish and they were in the tank before the cuttlefish. Her cuttlefish is up to 1012 now and mine is still at 1002. Our settings are Chilly, O'Lighthouse and Natural light. Maybe i'll play with the items in mine and see which one it doesn't like. Thank You.


Well, looking at your tank now it appears as though you Cuttlefish's happiness went up to 1006. Congratulations! Did you add items to your tank in order to cause that boost? What was the health level in your tank before and after adding the items?

To try and answer your question, I added a Cuttlefish to one of my mule account's aquarium. There weren't any items in the tank (except for an Overseer) and the only other fish were two Goldfish and an Arrowfish. Initially after adding him, he was just floating in place with his eyes closed. I removed him from the tank and then readded him. I keep hearing that this is a bug though.


I don't really know what it is then. Maybe its just her fish. She put in an aquarium jewel last night as the only decoration and her Cuttlefish jumped from 1012 to 1024. So I think its obvious that the fish likes the jewel. I'll just play around with my account and find out what it doesn't like in my tank. Thank you for your help.


Wait a sec... what's your aquarium's health percentage and what's hers?

Was there a period of time when all of your fish were unhappy? Has it taken you longer to raise your aquariums health than it has for her?
 
     
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