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I wouldn't be to surprised if most if not all the events are based on how hard one team works o3o
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Math makes my head hurt. emo

*pats* It makes a lot of peoples heads hurt.
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It's not a rig. It's just that all the kids who think "evil is cool" and sign up then run away are going to lose it for SIN.

Good is unpopular. Sure there will be mules, but in general, people who choose good are gonna work at the event.

Once they all finish and get their mules on the SIN side working it'll probably be balanced.

That said, the event is of course rigged, good will win. But that'll just be because Gaia will boost some numbers later if they have to.
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Possibly an experiment: quality versus quantity?
Improving Lives Everywhere...


Better idea: Glitch versus Rigged?

... By Whatever Means Necessary.

Best Idea: Devs V. Caring



(I know that sounds mean, but think about it)
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Lord Roux
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Actually, when you think about it, the larger team still has an advantage when it comes to mules. Think about it this way:

say there are 100k SIN followers & 50k BOO followers (just making it up here o: ) then say, every single one of those 150k users uses a mule. Well, then SIN has 150k followers & BOO has 150k followers. BUT, 2/3 of the SIN followers then are actually working hard while only 1/3 of the BOO followers are actually working. The others are just dead-weight mules who are trying to keep the soul-bound skins. Obviously it doesn't work 100% that way, but just know that the bigger team will produce more mules on the other team.


That being said, the disadvantage comes when you get casual users just joining the "cool" team, but then not actually doing any work. So, there you go. There are advantages AND disadvantages to being on the smaller or larger team.


But wouldn't there be more mules on SIN? Mules that aren't doing any work? I know the items are going to be cheap after the event so I haven't used my mules, meaning that that I didn't bother putting a mule on BOO. I would imagine other casual users aren't going to create mules either just to put on BOO when they also know they can use the marketplace to obtain the items or don't care about the other teams items. However, BOO people have known from the beginning they would be out numbered and I'm sure many people just plopped all their mules on to sin. Thus SIN carrying more dead weight. They would have the mules and the casual players.

Plus, I think making decisions based on the size of a team shouldn't matter. Especially on a site like Gaia were mules can be abused. If the smaller teams constantly win, which they have often then the math should be looked at. It gets boring when things are predictable. That's part of the reason I am so casual with the plots.. they're so obvious.

Well, if you're accusing the smaller side of cheating more, I guess that could be true :/ but it's definitely false logic to assume that more hardcore Gaia users are going to be on the smaller team, because that's just not true. So I'd still guess that the team with MORE users is going to be using MORE mules. Sure that same team might get a higher percentage of the casual users, but it doesn't mean the userbase of that team is going to be mostly casual users. Plus, there are obviously going to be some casual users on the other side. I would say that casual users drag a team down more than mules do though, and I definitely do not think it likely that a weaker team is going to use a significantly larger amount of mules. I would venture to guess that *most* mules are used for extra items, and NOT to cheat. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm going to assume the best about Gaia users here.
Also, why the assumption that the people on SIN aren't working hard? I mean I'm sure each team has their chunk of casual players. I mean even casual players would have to do enough work to get their items.
It has nothing to do with rigging, cheating or member size. S.I.N isn't getting any points from weapon fires, that is why B.O.O has gone up, while S.I.N hasn't moved at all.

Stop bawwing, it should be fixed soon.

The whole site is glitchy, so why shouldn't the event.



Also reason for the glitchy site: Lanzer's loose in the server room again. Probably dressed as Batmund or Clam-head.
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Yano whats sad about the algorithms and math put to make the size of the teams mean nothing?

The fact people can make Mules and the people that just log in for the items and never log back in.

So, wohoo they made intense math magic so the teams were fair, but they eed to fix the fact not -all- of the players actually put towards the benifit of the section.
Sadly, to many people want all the items and just join to ge thte items then return to their team.

The simple fact that we cant switch sides, even forces that hand unfortunatly.

Isnt that why Durem only got 2nd place in this Olympics? :ninja
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Improving Lives Everywhere...

Note, in the first post, if the teams had the same amount of weapon firings, which they should, S.I.N. would still be leading. By only a small amount of points, but still leading.

Proof that we're being robbed of a rightful victory.

... By Whatever Means Necessary.
User ImageIsn't that the way it usually is with these things? I mean they try to level the playing field so that there is no advantage or disadvantage to having more or less members on your team.

That being said, the numbers probably are screwed up somehow.
This is how they've scored every event pretty much ever.

It's not rigged, it's based on how much of their own weight each player pulls.
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This event is ********, they should just let everyone keep their skins because of this s**t.
How can they expect us to fight a fair battle if the whole thing is glitchy as hell?

I've donated TONS of gold doing power missions to help
SIN but it does nothing.

I lost like 10k because of this the first day
when they reset the scores, how many do overs do they expect us to put up with?

Skins for all.
Lady Psycho Sexy
This is how they've scored every event pretty much ever.

It's not rigged, it's based on how much of their own weight each player pulls.
Improving Lives Everywhere...


I'm calling bullshit on this theory. The vast majority of points being sent to the overall scores are calculated by the amount of times each team's weapon has been fired. In this specific situation, a glitch occurred in which S.I.N.'s weapon is not firing, thus not allowing the majority of our rightful points to flow, while B.O.O.'s weapon is working perfectly.

No Weapon, No Points. The user interaction has barely any actual impact on our points, while our main point income, our weapon, is broken. The only fair way to settle this is to strip both teams of their weapon points.

... By Whatever Means Necessary.
xcrimsonlegendx
This event is ********, they should just let everyone keep their skins because of this s**t.
How can they expect us to fight a fair battle if the whole thing is glitchy as hell?

I've donated TONS of gold doing power missions to help
SIN but it does nothing.

I lost like 10k because of this the first day
when they reset the scores, how many do overs do they expect us to put up with?

Skins for all.
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I spent 90k on BOO's donations, my friend.
I can honestly say D:
i don´t really care <3
i did almost everything i could to help my team, and i´ll help more over the week, but i like my skin and i think the SIN one looks like a flashier version of the Infernal´s Spirit skin, sooo, can we get our scaly skin please?
after i saw Fleep´s post i just got so mad the pretty scaly skin was going to be lost uou
but there are chances! 8D!
please let it not be a glitch please let it not be a glitch please let it not be a glitch!


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