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LONG LIVE THE SHADOWY FUGITIVE!


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Evil is back in town, and this time he's sporting some awesome hoofwear and scales. Or is he?
Meet Nyx, the scapegoat deity, a god so feared that it is said that the goddess Gaia had cast him into the void.
ACTUALLY, IT'S CALLED DISPROPORTIONATE PUNISHMENT

He has a loose connection into Gaia, brought forth by Lucas as an aspiring vessel. It is currently unknown exactly
how the Don came into the possession of the summoning ritual,
nor is is known why he was locked up.
Of course, if you ask the dark elf midget, he might have his own theories.


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Agents from Gaians in Black (GIB) have their own suspicions and theories, but this thread is here to lavish praises and fears and speculations upon the dark god known as Nyx.

What are his plans? Will he rise from beyond, like Voldemort and Sauron,
striking the lands of the living with pestilence and despair for those who dare to oppose him?

Or is he simply misunderstood by all and this is merely a petty strife between the divine?
What do his cult followers look like?
Why was he locked away instead of being made mortal, like Overseer and Sentinel were?

Will this become a trope of "ugly" verses "beautiful"?



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These and many more theories will be explored, and amended as Gaia continues this saga.




























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THE DIVINE RELATIONS:

Nyx and Meili are bros, sons of the goddess Gaia.
Meili was the favorite & the oldest while Nyx was the youngest of the brothers (perhaps Cain & Able correlation?)
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HOW POWERFUL IS HE?
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Let's start off with people being worried about HIM, aka Nyx

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We begin way back when, before EB was made to be horribly
kawaii and Jack was more interested in causing chaos and Santa
was recovering from being a cow. Mrs. Claus was devastated when
her newly non-bovine husband completely ditched her, and with good
reason. For Mr. Claus wasn't having some sugary delight with a
saucy elf or tech, but left her to save his own skin.


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As you can see, even legendary Jack and Easter Bunny are totally
freaked out as well. Trickster chaos and science! aren't as powerful
as their knowledge of Nyx's potential. Mech suits have nothing on this guy.

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Luca believes he's strong enough to challenge Gaia, herself and quite
likely reverse the curse of the dark elves.

COMPARISONS


Brenni has potential enough to be a ridiculously strong magical
being. Even Edmund recognizes this fact, and Zhivago, who killed both
Johnny Gambino and the god Meili, is extremely wary of the old man.
Edmund's wisdom has got to count for something. Nyx battle potention, possibly?
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Overseer and Sen were creator gods that had gotten into a fight so
strong, they ended up locking themselves up based on their power
types. But Meili states that the pair had been exiled by his mom.
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Centuries passed before Jack came along to free Sentinel and
awesome cults sprouted as a result, one for her, and one for Overseer.
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Annnd Gaia went back to stripping them of their powers through Jack.
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT

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Would Sen and Overseer regaining their powers actually be able
to challenge Nyx? Or would they only be able to challenge him because
he's at low power? After all, they'd been exiled and stripped of their powers
easily, but Nyx's exile seems more personal and at no risk for power to
be taken away.


Overseer could only enter the world at first by possessing Gino.
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Sentinel had Jack to help her. Much like Overseer, Nyx requires a
temporary vessel. Could it be possible that Sen is the most likely to
take on Nyx?


Would Gino, being of the titan bloodline, be able to challenge Nyx at
low battery or at hellish high power?


And let's not forget Hephaes, the mech god of industry that
meets frequently with Gaia. If he's powerful enough to warrant regular
visits with the head lady herself, what about him challenging Nyx?
Or does he have too many screws loose?


Does Peath have potential? Or is he only good for exotic romps and
vampire destroying prowess.



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UPDATE EDITED

Considerations Regarding Gaia for Better Debates, by:`Hydro

SO I HEARD SOME PEOPLE SAYING GAIA ISN'T PERFECT.

So I will have you all know.

Goddess Gaia is neither perfect nor a perfect mom.

"WHAT DID YOU SAY HYDRO?!" You must be thinking. The same person who loves GCA and cosplays as this character, who spent the month of May agonizingly collecting 8 sets of 31 items, hoping against hope that her favorite Goddess would finally take item form?

Yes, Goddess Gaia is not a perfect mother. She does have her faults.

But so do her children. So ispo facto, she cannot be a perfect mother, even as an immortal with immortal and mortal children, there is no such thing as a perfect child nor perfect parent.

Okay so some of you are saying that is obvious. However, the stance that Gaia isn't a perfect mother isn't lost on us. We can take criticism, what we can't take is same pointless argument over and over again being a "and that's that" sort of response. "Gaia is not perfect." "Nyx is doing bad things."

Not really a lively discussion there, and we can do better.

But that aside, there is the whole Nyx and Sen situation. Both have gone darkside, so we look and say "well of course Gaia isn't a good mother, because of these failures."

So, why do you you think that Gaia should've given Nyx a different domain? Or that she should've given Sen back her powers. Because that would have resolved everything before it started right?

What does happen when you give a child who has misbehaved the EXACT thing they want?

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Sen and Nyx are both grown creatures with free will. Their choices did affect their destinies. Gaia may very well knew they both were walking into paths of darkness, but just because she did or did not know better, she is a actual parent who allows her children to fall, scrape their knees, to make their own choices. We may not be fans of the choices of Nyx and Sen as of late, we can understand their reasons. Unfortunately we've been cringing all along knowing Sen was likely to take the first deal offered to her, because she views her mortality as a length of rope as to which to hang herself from. She's angry, and though Gaia tried to listen to her, Sen was there for what she wanted and for a fight if she didn't get it. Sen's situation *now*, is her choice.

If Gaia just repeatedly given what Nyx (or Sen) what they wanted, Nyx (or Sen), it is not plausible that their actions would've turned out better. She in fact, was being a parent, no matter what gauge of goodness or perfection one's opinion might be of it, a parent.

And using the creator of an entire world of creatures against two examples is no more fair than us saying Meili was a failure with the Titans for Ambition's faults.

We welcome you to constructively criticize Gaia if that's what you want to do. We just ask that you bring a good argument to the table. wink Cause just calling her a bad parent just isn't one anymore.

There are just so many better, richer, funnier, and deeper topics we can have


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Nyx's Far Reaching Curse, by: The Iron Magus
I think that's a pretty legit theory. If you look at the Kuro's origin story, what do you see? Crescent moons. Crescent moons EVERYWHERE. And what is Nyx's symbol? A crescent moon.

Specifically, you see the moon in 3 places: The beginning of the story, and two places when the curse is mentioned. Now, the first panel where the curse is mentioned (in italics, no less), you can see the crescent moon shining its light down on them, as if it were Nyx's influence. Then when it mentioned the curse taking them completely, there's the crescent moon once again.

We know the Kuro's were cursed. But by who? Who has that kind of power? No names are given in the manga, but if you look at the symbolism, it would seem the answer is apparent.

Nyx cursed them. Nyx used his abilities to create a caste of elves that would be susceptible to his influence and sympathetic to his cause, because they were just like him: outcasts from the world of the light.


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Chaos rules all, by: Qyp and Sheshira
Wondering what caused Nyx to get his Nyxian eyes since he didn't actually have it in the beginning....


If all the brothers are using their powers their eyes glow so do their eyes only glow or is it in the same manner as Nyx? Basically using their powers as they should their eyes only glow, and as they should not their eyes become "Nyxian"?

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We see here that Nyx didn't start with the eyes we now know:

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So he goes to the moon and the Nyxian eyes come about:

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Gaia tells us the moon is lifeless. Whose to say it is? There's a "dark" side of the moon that for all intents and purposes we've never seen. So how does she know there's no other entity on the moon? Maybe an entity that is older than Gaia herself? Maybe one that can possess or corrupt others? Maybe it's not "Nyxian" but some other "entity"...

Or is the term "dark side of the moon" trying to invoke the fact that Nyx isn't villainous but rather not in balance? Or in the chaotic side of things rather than ordered? Like how water can be calm, or a tsunami, stormy etc; fire can be a candle, or a forest fire; earth can be fertile land or an earthquake etc... so what element is Nyx? Light and darkness?

Isolation and neglect can do a number on a growing and developing young person, so he's gone the dark side of the moon? What can help Nyx return to the light or at least balance himself out?


What if we go by Greek mythology. The primordial deity of beginning and end, Chaos itself. What if Nyx has been possessed by Chaos, not in the way that Nyx has possessed Kuro, I mean in a kind of brainwashing manner, but still has a part of Chaos within so to speak. The part that brings the end of all things, just happens to reside within. The ideal, the vision of the end, has possessed him. He believes now that he must bring the destruction of the world, and that is his only purpose.

He can't create, but he was able to manipulate others into doing... stuff they wouldn't normally do. What if all along he was not the god of direct creation, like his mother and siblings, but the god of evolution. The god that manipulates, and guides creatures in an indirect manner to become something greater, but even Gaia didn't see his true potential, which says a lot really and took the easy way out with his mischief. Nyx and Ambition were meant to be together for a reason. They both function together, Ambition is a means of evolving, growing your mind, it's how have greatly changed our technology in the last 500 years. Nyx is meant to be our actual guide, not Meili.

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Qilin are thought to be a symbol of luck, good omens, protection, prosperity, success, and longevity by the Chinese.

Qilin are also a symbol of fertility, and often depicted in decorations as bringing a baby to a family.


I will grab that word Prosperity. That to me, along with success, and then working side by side with Ambition. I think we know Nyx has been guided wrong by Gaia in what he meant to do. Who is the real villain really... Gaia, no, Nyx, no... but Chaos itself. Chaos may not even have intentionally done it. Maybe his influence is just greatest on the dark side of the Moon. The chaotic nature has overtaken Nyx, while being alone, he has become confused, and has lost who he truly is, what he real purpose is.


They are not Nyxian eyes, but the Eyes of Chaos itself.


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Labtech X, Nyx, and creation of the Animated: by Pie
Let's start with Ghi itself, which -- full disclosure -- has been one of my favorite things about the Gaian world since zOMG! was first released. For those who haven't really followed the zOMG! plot and don't really know much about it, Ghi is a very, very powerful energy with a lot of applications.

First and foremost, when applied to an inanimate object, it converts it into a monster derived from all properties of the original object. This includes some more abstract concepts, like intelligence -- the Wish Tree was able to speak due to the words written on the tanzaku papers hanging on it, and the Sealab X was completely loyal to LabTech X due to the controls programmed into it. These are exceptions, though. By default, the monsters created from the Ghi are like wild animals who attack humans (this is touched upon, but the reason why is never explained).

On top of that, it also powers the Rings, which can perform a command in a method similar to a spell. These, too, seem to be derived from the physical properties of the ring -- for example, Bandage will heal you, and Meat will give you a larger health bar. Most of them are attacks, though. These all respond to the Gaian wearing them, and the strength of the command is derived from something called "Rage". A theme of aggression, much like the Animated.

The third application is particularly interesting, I think. Prolonged exposure will cause the Gaian to become imbued with the Ghi, which creates stat bonuses. Stronger, faster, even luckier. It transforms them into better warriors.

Long story short? It is, as I described it somewhere else, magic that you can contain in a test tube.

But what is it, exactly? This isn't fully explained. The best information comes from LabTech 123... or as we now know him, Frank:

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You think all THIS is just about ruining G-Corp? Well...sure...we all have our grudges here, but the demise of that empire is a mere byproduct of our true purpose. This sealab is about much more than Gambino's paltry vision of financial domination! This is about POWER!

What sort of power?
Why here, so far under the water?


That fission event that attracted the Zurg detonated nearby...and when that occurred, it left a signature behind...a sort of *wound*...that's leaking energy into our world in way that has never before occurred.

You mean Ghi energy?
Is the world wounded?


The leak is massive, but even so, the world is gigantic in comparison. We didn't even know there was such a thing as a biosphere or Ghi energy before, but we know it's size now and this leak should bear no threat, even now at its increased dimensions.

What the heck's a biosphere?
Increased size? You mean the rip is getting bigger?!?


Apparently, we're *all* part of the biosphere. The world seems to contain the biosphere's energy somehow, like a charged battery, and as near as we can tell, we all pull a charge constantly. We usually call it 'life', but that's messy nomenclature, so we call it Ghi energy instead. Same thing.


And then he moves on into details more relevant to the zOMG! plot, that NeXuS began farming the rift to use the Ghi for their own devices, causing it to get bigger. We'll get back to that in juuuust a second.

So, based on what we know now about who Nyx is and how the gods create life, we can already draw one very big conclusion: There's more than one kind of life energy. The one fueling the Animated was noted as Nyxian, meaning there's probably one for each of the five gods. That would make the life energy of the average Gaian Meilian.

Which means we can make a second conclusion, which is that the gods are not the source of their respective energies, because we didn't all drop dead when Meili did. We can further speculate that the relationship actually goes the other way, since Nyx's plan wasn't set into motion until Ghi energy started flooding the world in quantities never seen before.

In light of that, here comes crackpot theory number one: The five gods exist independent of a physical form. Are they, perhaps, made of their respective energies?

This also raises a big question about who's running on what, since there's three gods we've only heard of, and they have their own creations as well. However, given the physical differences between Meili's creations (humans) and Nyx's creations (Animated), we'd need to assume that there's a similarly huge gulf for the remaining three gods.

Crackpot theory number two: Remember the stars, like Saiph and Hatsya, and their little star cats? I don't doubt you do, unless you've been ignoring your Announcements. These seem to fit the bill nicely, and we have a god(dess?) who looks sky themed... could they be the creations of another one of the Gods?

Crackpot theory number three: What about the Zurg? Honestly, I think they might be truly alien to Gaia -- not just the planet, but also its biosphere. They did say that they were 'incompatible' with Gaia, and aliens (not Zurg, but bugs and preda-pups) are among the few non-Animated things you can fight in zOMG. Perhaps other biospheres exist, created by other global deities on the same level as Gaia herself?

There's another important detail to consider, and that's that Nyxian energy doesn't just bring things to life, but also alters the physical form a bit. This might help explain a lot of the form changing around Gaia -- the flesh is the same, but there's a different flavor of Ghi running through it, and each has its own signature changes on the body itself.

Crackpot theory number four: That could be the rough science of how Gaia can take immortal beings -- like lesser gods and titans -- and turn them into ordinary mortals. Immortals are probably running on a unique brand of energy related to the goddess herself, and so all that needs to be done is for Gaia to swap that out for something more mortal, like Meilian, and let the body change accordingly.


All right. I could spin theories about this all day, but I have a bigger speculation train to catch. Let's ask ourselves: if Ghi is not generic, store-brand life energy but Nyx's own variety, what does that change about the story?

Well, Ghi was first made known to we Gaians in 2008, with the release of zOMG!. But based on what we learned from that, it's been running in the plot for longer. zOMG! pins its appearance with what the game the Gambino Event, but X informs us that Ghi was a thing before the rift was opened:

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Even so, I was loyal. It was I that saved my father *and* his birth son, Gino. It was I that released the pent up Ghi energy with a timely injection of a critical catalyst.


When we knew Ghi as just life energy, I don't think anyone thought twice about this statement. Two Gambinos in one Gino-sized package... that's a lot of compressed life. But knowing what we know now...

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It was I that released the pent up Ghi Nyxian energy with a timely injection of a critical catalyst.


... we have to ask ourselves: How did Nyx get into the equation before the rift did?!

Well, let's examine the actual fusion event. (Yes, this is already bridging Nyx to plots from 2005.) We can pretty much rule out Johnny and Gino from being the source of the Nyxian energy, because they were the ones endangered by it. But there's two other things in this equation that I think are worth considering.


First, we have Zhivago's bullet. Carrying a Nyxian-charged payload? Perhaps.

This is the less likely of the two, I think, but I'm not ready to rule it out yet. Vampires are completely laced through this plot on Nyx's side -- particularly if you count DMS, which we certainly can -- and if the Von Helsons were actually working for Nyx before the Kuro gang ever became involved, the rivalry between the two families would match the gods' war in a nice, symbolic parallel.

There's some holes that are easily patched: For example, why didn't Zhivago use Nyx's weapon from the start? Because there wasn't enough Nyxian energy in the world to fashion him one yet. Why only use Zhivago as an assassin, and Don Kuro for the actual summoning? Because Zhivago is not so easily manipulated as Don Kuro.

But there's not much I can think of in the ways of actual evidence that this is the case. More to the point, there's a big gaping hole in this theory, namely that the Vampires have been turning against Nyx and the Dark Elves. It's still viable, but it assumes we haven't gotten the whole story.


The second, and in my opinion more viable theory? The G-Virus.

This lovely little plot device is already pretty much married to the Ghi, conceptually, and I don't just mean the common letter. And color. In both cases, we have a general idea of how they work but not the details. Both have a history of turning non-living things into living things, and both have a common theme of aggressive results (which we know isn't caused by the reanimation itself). I've long theorized that the G-Virus was infusing high doses of Ghi into its subjects, though I never thought much of it before now. I mean, come on -- one of the first monsters you fight in zOMG! is a Gramster.

The implications are a little much to take in, though. It would mean that Nyx's entire gambit to come back has been going on since at least 2004 (and probably earlier than that). It also means that Gaia's speculation is wrong about what's engineered his return. It's not dark magic -- it's science, sponsored by the Gambino family.

Well, Nyx is a trickster. And as intelligent as he is, X has major blind spots in terms of his own actions. He's made a point, both in zOMG! and more recently on the forums, of spelling out that he's always been loyal to Gambino. But this hasn't fully reflected in his actions, and he's had his hands in a lot of the pieces of Nyx's larger gambit. His daddy issues make him almost as vulnerable a target as Don Kuro... perhaps he's been unknowingly deceived by Nyx for years.

But maybe not. For all we know, the G-Virus was just a convenient accident. I think it's something more deliberate, but this is an area ripe for theories.

Here's the last thing I have to point out about this particular theory. And when I first realized this, I repeated it back to myself, and after hearing the words aloud I knew this speculation had officially taken me on the express train to crazytown...

There is one incident in Gaia's history that must now be reexamined. An act that should have been caused by the G-Virus itself, but which no one can quite understand how it got there. "Maybe it was residual?" An act that had very curious results, much like how some Animated are vicious monsters but under certain circumstances can be much nicer, such as we see with the Buddies. An act that involved a very large amount of energy we know came from Nyx...




Diedrich was spawned because of the Nyxian energy in Zhivago's weapon.


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Just if you thought you know what our dark master looks like, we are surprised once again, on page 8, you can see that our god also takes the form of a majestic hairy unicornqilin. Highlighted image is under spoiler
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Death of an illustrious ruler (Johnny Gambino) would make more sense if Nyx was actually there in terms of mythology
What if Johnny's success was a result of "owning" Nyx, the qilin?

According to the tales, if someone become the owner of qilin, his/her wish of becoming a ruler will be fulfilled. but there's a twist there. It's actually the qilin who choose the owner. The owner must be strong enough to influence his/her people, but weak enough not to defy the qilin. And in few cases, it's actually the qilin that taking control as a ruler, and the owner's just a puppet.

In the case the qilin decide that it's time for the current ruler's reign to end, and if the owner displeased the qilin, the kingdom will fall tragically, like the ruler that suddenly get mad, invasion of other faction/countries/race, the castle/throne that suddenly collapsed, assassination of the ruler...

Special thanks to TofuBaconPizza for this theory


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The power to enslave someone as strong as Zhivago could have been a benefit
that Nyx bestowed upon Luca. Check out the symbol on his glove in the
manga. The key also holds part of Nyx's symbol, the crescent moon.
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Meili, when he changes into a giant tiger has a strange symbol appear
on his head. In some panels, it looks like a crescent moon. Whether that
is intentional or just how the artist drew him remains to be seen. Perhaps
they are related? Brotherly rivalry is a common staple of many myths
involving deities. THEORY ******** CONFIRMED IN MANGA BOOYA
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Prior to his death, Gambino became increasingly worried that someone
was watching him. Edmund blew it off, saying it was paranoia at best. Of
course, we all learned better when Zhivago killed him. Zhivago, enslaved
hand of Don Kuro, later on ends up killing Meili with the same weaponry
....a god slaying gun.
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Eventually we learned that other gods would be targets. Could Nyx be
reaching from beyond his exiled borders, eliminating competition prior to
his resurgence?

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In addition, when we first meet Sen and Overseer, there's a competition to
amass the most followers in order to either take over the world or defend it.
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Either way, the aggressive recruitment suggests that a god's power is
backed by the strength of their followers. Who among Gaia would support
Nyx (that isn't dying a slow death like Luca)? Or is he so powerful that
he transcends beyond the need of multiple followers?

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Possible Followers and Speculated Theories on Nyx's Banishment

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Ultra Satan-Hassli, especially with the comic revealing his dark nature.

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Nightmare Elk, Carl: This amoral creature has terrorized and intimidated
Gaians with his desire to increase his harem and fearfully buy junk from
him. His grant from the Hannibal forum seems to suggest he has no
issues with the eating and devouring of others (as well as his post history).
Cindy reported during the Hk13 event that mysterious energies were
about when a certain elk came to terrorize the populace.

'It is too early to speculate what the overall damage from this elk-ridden
rampage may be, but early reports indicate that the attacks have affected
peoples energy levels. We're not sure if the damage is reparable, but in the
meantime, we recommend that all combatants keep an eye out for
rampaging elk, if you do see one, run and hide behind the nearest large
rock or tree!'


special thanks to Tinidril for this theory, and Sweatpants Princess
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Perhaps Nyx was following along the gods of Grecian myth far too closely,
and Gaia, like Hera, punished Nyx for his indulgences among the mortals
by casting him into the void. After all, y'know those faun/satyr types. wink

special thanks to Steeple for this theory

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Before we get wild ideas of temptation and ridiculous shipping (myself
included, lol), fellow follower Qyp brings up a good point by comparing the
hand in the comic to the cover.
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Growing Up theory by Slick Southpaw
based on cover page and comic page comparison:
the goddess Gaia, herself has a literal and figurative hand in the
matter. Maybe she hopes to teach both Nyx and Gino a lesson in growing up?

After all, we see Gino go from an awkward ladyboy to a more confident
individual who wants to do what's right instead of being cast in his father's
shadow. Nyx has been tossed aside, into the void and a misfit among the
gods. If this is to be "becoming a man" sort of plot, Nyx would need to learn
that being cruel or bullying (after all Don Kuro isn't getting stronger at this
point) isn't part of what defines masculinity and true power. It's not about
being stronger than everyone else and demolishing those in the way who
oppose ideologies. Gino is learning that he needs to stand up for himself
and realize his inner power and potential, much like his father did before him.


EDIT IN REGARDS TO UPDATE: Still working on the current growing up theory, furthered by the new revelation that Nyx is the youngest out of all the brothers


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Gaia is a terrible mother: by icekoldozy
I Don't Think Nyx is evil. He was made with no creative ability and no one tried to help him. He was literally given a lifeless rock to be in charge of. Poor Nyx just wanted to be included.

Gaia on the other hand is at worst a manipulative all powerful force for evil, an idiot or at best a bad mother who neglected her youngest son.

How Gaia plays favourites
In her own words she describes Meili as "The apple of my eye" and gave him the sole job of guiding mankind. Her other less favoured sons were pretty much left to their own devices.
Nyx was the youngest of these less favoured sons so obviously would need more time/training but Gaia just wrote him of as "odd".

Why Gaia is a bad mother.
She decided her less developed son had no talent and considered him jealous just because he aspired to be as good as his older brothers. A good mother could have trained him, In Gaias case she could probably have simply made him better. She could have even asked his older brothers to do it if she didn't want to directly interfere.

Why Gaia might be an idiot
So if after she was out of options Nyx simply could not create, a smart person would have assigned him a race to guide like Meili or at least given him in a managerial role.
The moon is only beautiful when viewed from off it and although the stars including the sun are brighter the best view from up there is the nearest planet yet she describes it as such and is surprised when Nyx spends most of his time visiting. Gaia hands Nyx what she obviously thinks is a pretty bauble to play with but is in fact a weapon of mass destruction. If Nyx was as jealous of his brothers power and as dumb as Gaia thought he was he would have tried to hone his creating ability on the moon and affected its mass which would have effected the planet causing catastrophic damage. For the planet not to be destroyed Nyx would also have to be an idiot or just not that evil .
At the very least Nyx is more intelligent than gaia thinks he is because he is not satisfied with playing with a rock. Gaia says "he took it well"

Conclusion

If we believe Gaia's assessment that Nyx took his appointed post well there can only be 3 reasons for it.

Nyx isn't the master of evil some may consider him to be when he first got the moon he was a baby but as he grew up he wanted to play with his brothers toys.-Nyx isn't evil just young and not raised right. crying

Gaia lied and this is all part of her plan to sow discord in her creation for her own entertainment. This point becomes even more salient if Gaia is actually Omnipotent. twisted


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Guiding Ambition Subtly: by Fukii

So discussions are that Nyx is a kind of Loki, god of mischief and fire (coincidentally, qilins are also known to erupt in fire -- Loki is also compared to the Devil and Nyx is a hoofed figure, so...)?

You don't have to be the god of anything to have mastery of manipulation. Anyone can do it well with enough strategic skill. Gaia herself seems to be masterminding quite a bit of manipulation to suit her own ends (although benevolent in intent).

I just don't think that the act of manipulation necessarily indicates any special proclivity for it. The way Gaia words it, Nyx was acting out, not acting upon.

In this regard, it was easy to get Ambition to go along with the prank because all Nyx did was appeal to Ambition's nature. I don't believe Nyx exerted any particular force on Ambition to get this done, nothing is said to imply this. Ambition agreed of his own free will, no jedi mind tricks needed. And as far as the influence he had on Sen and Marius? He didn't do that alone. He had help from Ambition, which implies that Nyx wasn't exerting any innate abilities in this endeavor.

And then you would have to consider why he would even want Ambition in Sen and Marius' place to begin with. You could say that all he wanted to do was mess with his brothers, but Ambition was also his friend, and someone he could relate to. Why wait for Ambition to do all of this? He could have done it without him. Furthermore, there is implication that Sen and Marius have a direct connection or correlation with Nyx. They may act as an antithesis to him, or maybe something complementary -- either he needed to get them out of his way, or he would rather work with someone he considered a friend. Since they are the protectors of life, what would that make Nyx given either possibility?

Gods of subtlety and manipulation don't normally want to destroy things and rebuild them in their own image; also, this doesn't appear to fit in with the theme of the rest of his brothers. They all serve as baselines for existence, major themes of life.

But then again, maybe that's where Nyx went wrong. He's trying to do something that's not really in his nature, and maybe by switching things around on his brothers he feels he is creating something of his own. This would follow more with the theory of chaos and order, though.

Following up on the theme of subtlety, though, the moon is seen as a passive force reliant upon the source of others. While his brothers all act as active forces, Nyx is the passive force that reflects off of them. The moon is also a symbol of self-reflection and deduction; however, this is only the full moon. If we're going to play on the theme of the moon entirely and go off of the belief that Nyx is pure embodiment of it, we would also have to consider that the crescent moon specifically symbolizes new beginnings, and that the cyclic nature of the moon represents rebirth.


Personally, I think this is just reading too much into it. But then so is my whole "justice" reasoning. Nyx could also be the god of something more categorical and has become the god of subtlety and manipulation sub-categorically.




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OFF-GAIA RESEARCH THEORIES

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Greek is overrated. Chinese Constellations are rad
Symbols regarding dragon, tortoise, tiger, bird, based off the organizations of constellations pointing in the four cardinal directions

Special thanks to Pengaana for this theory

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It's all about the elements, babe
According to the Wu Xing Theory, aka the 5 elements, there are different classifications of each element assigned to each fantastic being
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A male interpretation of the goddess Nyx
It could simply be a genderbend intepretation of the goddess of night, Nyx.
Nyx came from Chaos and is considered a primordial goddess, aka one of
the super earliest deities to enter the mythological spectrum according to
the Greeks and even Zeus wouldn't cross her. Even more so she is" the
subduer of gods and men, and relates that Zeus himself stood in awe of her.
In the ancient cosmogonies Night is one of the very first created beings,
for she is described as the daughter of Chaos, and the sister of Erebus,
by whom she became the mother of Aether and Hemera"

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Nyx and Nox, an exploration in language interpretation
GIB had already pointed out that Nyx ( Νύξ) or Nox as it is in Latin, is a
female primal goddess of night.

However, Nyx isn't just a first name/title/whathaveyou. It also functions as
a title for other gods. One of the more popular terms is Dionysus Nyktelios,
also known as nocturnal/of the night and hey that god that's known to have
satyr and nymph consorts. Here are some other of his cult titles. This could
also explain his hooved feet (a mixup of Pan and Bacchus/Dionysus could
easily be the result of improper research).

By the way, one of Dionysus's sacred associates was a serpent, which
could explain why Gaia's interpretation of Nyx possesses scales.

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Erebos concept, but Nyx sounded better as a name
Since diddling your sister was fair game in the mythologies, Erebus was
both the brother and husband of Nyx.

Erebus, also called Erebos, and in ancient Greek, Ἔρεβος," which is known
as deep, darkness, and shadow
would also be a name fitting Gaia's character creation, Nyx. After all, the
god is not exactly presented as a charming beam of light.

Since he's depicted as being beyond the normal realm, this interpretation
is also acceptable, as the term Erebus was a title for "a region of the Greek
underworld where the dead pass immediately after dying, and is sometimes
used interchangeably with Tartarus".

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What's a terrifying dark god without some bros n' servants?
Here are some suggestions regarding plausible alliances between Nyx
and other outcasts:

Darkness

Caves/Underground

Underworld/Hell

Moon

Night/nocturnal

Undead

special thanks to Qyp for these suggestions



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What is up with the crescent moon symbols?
This is Nyx's sacred symbol, and it appears in both his summoning ritual
and on his head.

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So...what do we call your members? Cultists? Crazies? Traitors?
You may refer to us as Nyxians.

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Is this a cult thread?
We're supporters of the outcast god, Nyx.
You do not have to be a cultist to bask in his glory or get on the fanlist.

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Are the spoons that you gave us the only thing we can talk about?
Heck no! This is a cult thread dedicated towards sharing knowledge and
speculation about our dark outcast god. Discussing on whether or not the
manga will continue if people pay for it, is limited strictly to the polls.
Those verging off topic to complain about Flynn, inflation, rising prices, or
bitching about other unrelated topics will be forcibly sacrificed and/or
redirected elsewhere.

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Why do you even care?
I thoroughly enjoyed the airship saga and still remain steadfast in my belief
that Nyx will rise again to spread terror, chaos, and perhaps some more
interesting routes of destruction. Much like how CoP (Case of Pietro) snafu
took place, and surprised everyone when it finally finished, I feel the same
route will happen with Nyx. Plus, he's a badass hoofed deity that scares
gods I don't really care for cool

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Will you be accepting other theories aside your own regarding Nyx?
Of course! Both with concepts regarding to Gaia or how Nyx could have
possibly come to light regarding ancient mythologies or pop culture references.

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What is the point of this thread omg can't you see Gaia doesn't care
about community anymore scream

For funsies. I missed speculating about EIs and what mythological/pop
culture influences could present for future poses, and because Nyx is
awesome and did I mention his fabulous legs?

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Who is this Nyx person posting in the thread all of a sudden? Is he official
NPC? Did Gaia revive the plot?

Consider the guy as our thread mascot, made by one of our devoted cultists.
He posts in character as his interpretation of Nyx, aka, he is roleplaying.
If anyone has any issues regarding this character, please PM me your
concerns. I want this to remain a fun and silly optimistic conspiracy cult thread.



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SDPlus #431 Exiled Nyx
'I will not live in the dark forever...'



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Wrath of the Gods has created our very own Nyxel!

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Beautiful art encapsulating the true nature of our god, as a qirin when times were simple
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There are many ways we can dress to show our loyalty and devotion to HIM.
For in darkness, we are all the same, and our Master, Nyx, does not judge.
All he asks is our loyalty in return.

To help with your worshipping attire here is a comprehensive list of items
that contain Nyx' symbol, the moon, in some way:

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However, if you are in need of inspiration, here are some ideas designed
by users:

For a relatively low budget, we have our common robes, designed by
Hillbilly Hikari in the Heart Break Cafe Tektek Contest:

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And for those who envision themselves as high priests and priestesses
alike will adorn more expensive wear by Kitty Amazing in the Heart Break
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XiaDoh-Ichii brings you a low-budget worship version that will be easily
affordable for anyone.

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Sheshira has offered designs fitting followers no matter what the gold
budget is for adorning garments in service of Nyx:

Head Priestess/Priest/Priestess
Outfits are more restricted to certain themes (basically item names), and
color schemes (blue, white, gray/black)
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Alternative to the wedding dress is the Egyptian dress
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Upper Echelon of Devotees
They are supporters of Nyx either through old family ties (either family
members are in the -secret- cult, or they're patrons), old wealth (capitalized
on Nyx's deeds), support his mission, etc. They're more free to wear what
they want when in honor of Nyx though the colors need to be limited to
blues, whites, grays, blacks, golds (only softer golds), and themes (so
stars, crescent, lunar, night, sex, demonic).

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the forces of darkness welcome you into the cult :3

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