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So recently my friends and I found out that a game we play has a minimum age limit of 21. After talking about it, we realized that it did make sense considering the content found within the game.

On Gaia, there has been plenty of discussion on if certain items should be removed and there have been avatar resets and bans for how some items have been used. Its more than just items though.

In forums like Lifestyle Discussions, people have to toe around certain subjects because the more specific you get with your sex life, the more of a chance a warning is headed your way. To start with, should threads like that even be allowed if the site's youngest members are thirteen? My school started sex ed in the 5th grade. So I can see how some of that would fly.

Should we have guilds and threads dedicated to pregnancy support? I mean, most people would be in shock if they found out that a 13 year old was pregnant. Why would the site then allow threads that had discussions on this that talked about the positives and negatives? It might influence these kids into doing something.

Another example would be the fact that we have support groups for things like BDSM. Something that you have to be at least 18 to even participate in. That's five years over the age set by Gaia. And to go with that, there are plenty of threads in the CB that have control situations in the title. Not to mention role plays that involve this. The same goes for the pregnancy topic.

Added to all of this, is of course the items on this site. The favorite examples would be the alcohol, smoking, and the weapons. Of course, we also have items that show plenty of skin. For example, in Zodiacal we have an item that removes the bra and only the hair covers the boobs. Because that's totally appropriate for someone that's 13 years old.

But instead of warnings, bans, and removing these items, why not just change the age limit? That way, everyone keeps their items and those users that no longer meet the limit will only have to wait a few years before they can get them again. It would allow the artists more freedom in what they can design and give users more freedom in how their avatars look and what content they post in the threads. I seriously doubt we have a large population of the younger teens anyways. Most of the users I meet are either in their late teen or early twenties.

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21's a stupid number.
If you want to do 18+
-legal age of consent in the US - It goes even lower in other countries
-age you can be drafted (to kill!) in other countries Around 150 countries follow this age as well
-Legal driving age in other countries - About 130 different countries follow this.
-age youre an adult in the following places:

Albania[11]
Afghanistan
American Samoa, United States[12]
Andorra[13]
Austria [14]
Argentina[15]
Angola
Australia[16]
Bahamas[17]
Bangladesh
Barbados[18]
Belarus[19]
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina[20] (16 if minor gets married or has a child)[21]
British Crown dependencies
Isle of Man[22]
Jersey[23]
Guernsey[24]
Brazil (those aged 16 or older can be emancipated upon marriage, by being approved for civil service, by graduating in college or for being economically independent)
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Canada (provinces of Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Prince Edward Island, Quebec and Saskatchewan)[25]
Chile
China [26]
Colombia
Costa Rica
Côte d'Ivoire
Croatia (16 if minor becomes a parent or marries – a judicial act is passed with prior hearing of minors parents and getting an opinion of the Social Care centre)
Cyprus
Czech Republic (16 if minor marries)
Denmark (incl. Faroe Islands and Greenland)[27]
Djibouti[28]
Dominican Republic
Dominica
Ecuador
El Salvador[29]
Fiji
Finland [30]
France
Gabon
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Guatemala
Guinea
Guyana
Haiti
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India[31]
Indonesia [4]
Iran[32][33]
Ireland (or upon marriage)[34]
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Kenya
Laos
Lebanon
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Macau
Macedonia
Malawi[35]
Malaysia
Malta
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mexico
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
Montenegro
Nepal
Netherlands
Norway
Oman [36]
Pakistan
Palestine
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines[37]
Poland [38]
Portugal (minors are emancipated upon marriage - art.º 132.º Portuguese Civil Code)
Qatar
Romania
Russia (minors are emancipated upon marriage or in case of working on a labour agreement or being engaged in business activities)[39]
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis [40]
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia
Seychelles
Slovakia (16 if minor marries – a judicial act is passed with prior agreement of minor's parents)
Slovenia
South Africa
Spain
Sri Lanka[41]
Sudan[42]
Sweden [43]
Switzerland[44]
Syria
Tanzania
Trinidad and Tobago
Turkey [45]
Ukraine [46]
United Kingdom
England
Scotland
Wales
Northern Ireland[47][48]
United States,[49] (except Alabama (19),[50] Mississippi (21),[51] Nebraska (19 or upon marriage),[52] Puerto Rico (21)[53])
Uruguay
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zimbabwe



If you want to do 23+
-Age where adolescence ends.



21's just the drinking age in USA.
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Lapine Lequesne
21's a stupid number.
If you want to do 18+
-legal age of consent
-age you can be drafted (to kill!) in other countries
-age youre an adult in USA.
-Legal driving age in other countries

If you want to do 16+
-legal driving age in USA
-can get a full time job (lol gotsa protect KIDS from child labor, i Guess "kid" ends at 16.

If you want to do 23+
-Age where adolescence ends.



21's just the drinking age in USA.

Yeah. I thought it was strange but eh. It had to be a number that would make sure parents wouldn't sue the website if their little kid was talking about how they passed an STD to another player in the game by giving them a free drink.

I feel like 21 would be too old of a limit for Gaia though. 17/18 would be the best way to go. Maybe even 16. I mean, we have shows called 16 and pregnant and that seems to be okay with everyone.
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21, though? 18-year-olds are adults, their parents can't really sue anyone at that point anyway. Confusing, but I don't know anything about this other hypothetical site, I guess.

As far as i know there are no laws against letting underage teens talk about the fact that pregnancy exists or see or interact with pregnant women so I have no idea what that has to do with anything.
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Lapine Lequesne
21's a stupid number.
If you want to do 18+
-legal age of consent
-age you can be drafted (to kill!) in other countries
-age youre an adult in USA.
-Legal driving age in other countries

If you want to do 16+
-legal driving age in USA
-can get a full time job (lol gotsa protect KIDS from child labor, i Guess "kid" ends at 16.

If you want to do 23+
-Age where adolescence ends.



21's just the drinking age in USA.


The site isn't American based so you can't use American standards for these things.
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Lapine Lequesne
21's a stupid number.
If you want to do 18+
-legal age of consent
-age you can be drafted (to kill!) in other countries
-age youre an adult in USA.
-Legal driving age in other countries

If you want to do 16+
-legal driving age in USA
-can get a full time job (lol gotsa protect KIDS from child labor, i Guess "kid" ends at 16.

If you want to do 23+
-Age where adolescence ends.



21's just the drinking age in USA.


The site isn't American based so you can't use American standards for these things.


...what? Yes it is.

Unless you're talking about the other unnamed site OP mentioned, I suppose that one might not be in the US, I have no idea.
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Lapine Lequesne
21's a stupid number.
If you want to do 18+
-legal age of consent
-age you can be drafted (to kill!) in other countries
-age youre an adult in USA.
-Legal driving age in other countries

If you want to do 16+
-legal driving age in USA
-can get a full time job (lol gotsa protect KIDS from child labor, i Guess "kid" ends at 16.

If you want to do 23+
-Age where adolescence ends.



21's just the drinking age in USA.


The site isn't American based so you can't use American standards for these things.


...what? Yes it is.

Unless you're talking about the other unnamed site OP mentioned, I suppose that one might not be in the US, I have no idea.

The site OP mentioned. That was the only reason she mentioned the age of 21 after all. It's in some country located in GMT+1.

OP Is just asking to raise the cap to something like 16-18 since, come on, this site is borderline sexual.
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Gaian

...but borderline sexual is not overtly sexual. *shrug*
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Personally I've always been of the live and let live persuasion; meaning I simply stay away from stuff that doesn't interest me, or maybe even offends me.
And I believe users should practice that kind of discretion as well.

Of course that doesn't mean I think everything should be left completely unmoderated, but so long as it's not generally offensive, I don't see a problem with topics like bdsm or pregnancy; they will most likely only be frequented by people who are at an age to comprehend them anyways (and seriously, it's way easier to find offensive age-inappropriate stuff just by using google than as a regular gaia user (at least I'd like to think so)). This is the internet we're talking about, after all.

Age requirements are always subject to local laws and Gaia is an international community, which means it's hard to reach a general concensus anyways. Just by looking at US law (allowed to join the army and kill people several years before you are allowed to drink alcohol, really?), these things are simply hard to pinpoint.
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The 13+ age requirement on Gaia has exactly zero to do with "protecting innocent eyes from the horrors of the internet" or any such nonsense. It's there so that they don't have to put in the extra safety features and rules required by law for any site that allows children younger than 13 to join. They want to make sure as many people as possible can join the site while creating as little hassle as possible for themselves and their users. I'd elaborate more, but I have to go to work. sad
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Lapine Lequesne
21's a stupid number.
If you want to do 18+
-legal age of consent
-age you can be drafted (to kill!) in other countries - Isreal, Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Cambodia, China, Egypt, Dominican Republic, Estonia, Lebanon
-age youre an adult in USA.
Albania[11]
Afghanistan
American Samoa, United States[12]
Andorra[13]
Austria [14]
Argentina[15]
Angola
Australia[16]
Bahamas[17]
Bangladesh
Barbados[18]
Belarus[19]
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina[20] (16 if minor gets married or has a child)[21]
British Crown dependencies
Isle of Man[22]
Jersey[23]
Guernsey[24]
Brazil (those aged 16 or older can be emancipated upon marriage, by being approved for civil service, by graduating in college or for being economically independent)
Brunei
Bulgaria
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Canada (provinces of Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Prince Edward Island, Quebec and Saskatchewan)[25]
Chile
China [26]
Colombia
Costa Rica
Côte d'Ivoire
Croatia (16 if minor becomes a parent or marries – a judicial act is passed with prior hearing of minors parents and getting an opinion of the Social Care centre)
Cyprus
Czech Republic (16 if minor marries)
Denmark (incl. Faroe Islands and Greenland)[27]
Djibouti[28]
Dominican Republic
Dominica
Ecuador
El Salvador[29]
Fiji
Finland [30]
France
Gabon
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Greece
Guatemala
Guinea
Guyana
Haiti
Hong Kong
Hungary
Iceland
India[31]
Indonesia [4]
Iran[32][33]
Ireland (or upon marriage)[34]
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Kenya
Laos
Lebanon
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Macau
Macedonia
Malawi[35]
Malaysia
Malta
Mauritania
Mauritius
Mexico
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
Montenegro
Nepal
Netherlands
Norway
Oman [36]
Pakistan
Palestine
Panama
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines[37]
Poland [38]
Portugal (minors are emancipated upon marriage - art.º 132.º Portuguese Civil Code)
Qatar
Romania
Russia (minors are emancipated upon marriage or in case of working on a labour agreement or being engaged in business activities)[39]
Rwanda
Saint Kitts and Nevis [40]
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Serbia
Seychelles
Slovakia (16 if minor marries – a judicial act is passed with prior agreement of minor's parents)
Slovenia
South Africa
Spain
Sri Lanka[41]
Sudan[42]
Sweden [43]
Switzerland[44]
Syria
Tanzania
Trinidad and Tobago
Turkey [45]
Ukraine [46]
United Kingdom
England
Scotland
Wales
Northern Ireland[47][48]
United States,[49] (except Alabama (19),[50] Mississippi (21),[51] Nebraska (19 or upon marriage),[52] Puerto Rico (21)[53])
Uruguay
Venezuela
Vietnam
Yemen
Zimbabwe

-Legal driving age in other countries

If you want to do 16+
-legal driving age in USA
-can get a full time job (lol gotsa protect KIDS from child labor, i Guess "kid" ends at 16.

If you want to do 23+
-Age where adolescence ends.



21's just the drinking age in USA.


The site isn't American based so you can't use American standards for these things.


Give me a moment to ammend my post.
Sorry you or op didnt specify which site this is, or which country it's in.

Though, I did mention other places, not just america.
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Spirit

Also, @OP
I dont think you have to be 18 to participate in sexless, consensual BDSM.

BDSM is not all about the sex.
There's much, much, much more to it.
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I'm afraid Gaia would probably change a lot if they'd raise the age limit. A friend joined another avatar community a few days ago, where you have to verify your age if you're 18+ and want to use certain features. He told me about his experiences in this community and 90% of the things he told me were about sex, cybering, slaves, etc. Personally I like Gaia how it is with it's restrictions. If I'd want adult content I'd join another community.
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Meromictic
I mean, most people would be in shock if they found out that a 13 year old was pregnant.


o_O I wanna live where you live!
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Lapine Lequesne
Also, @OP
I dont think you have to be 18 to participate in sexless, consensual BDSM.

BDSM is not all about the sex.
There's much, much, much more to it.


As a matter of fact, yes, you do.
You must be of the age of majority per your state. Which actually varies from 18-21.
Yes, it's not all about sex, but there is still a lot encompassed within the community that requires you to be a fully understanding adult.

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