Agape Scissors without the price tag.

Make the scissors effect readily available?

Yes	47.5%	[ 318 ]
No	46.7%	[ 313 ]
Other (Post in thread)	5.8%	[ 39 ]
Total Votes:			[ 670 ]

[Slider546]

The word "Entitlement" has been used (40) times in this thread.

Many users think that Gaia should create a pose that has the same effect as Sainte Ciel: Agape's scissors.

I, personally, don't think that Gaia's less wealthy users should have to pay 2 Million or more for an item just for the single pose, which has a function that is so widely utilized.

For those of you who don't know, Sainte Ciel: Agape's scissors pose manipulates that furthest back layer of wigs and other hair items, creating the illusion that the hair was "cut".

This is the method that many people use to get rid of long ponytails from hairstyles, or other features of wigs that would mask another item that is equipped.

Thoughts?

Edit:

NOTE

This thread was NOT created so that Agape owners could wage a flame war against the users who are unwilling, unable, or otherwise cannot justify the purchase of Sainte Ciel: Agape.

This thread is for the discussion of the re-release of this pose, and others that are similar to it, in a form that is affordable to many Gaians.

[Blaze the Fire Dragon]

As mush as I'd love that, Gaia's never going to do it.

[Slider546]

*reserved*

[Blaze the Fire Dragon]

Slider546

Blaze the Fire Dragon

As mush as I'd love that, Gaia's never going to do it.

What reason do they have NOT to do it?
It would take fifteen minutes of coding, since the code for the item already exists, they would just have to incorporate it into Salon Durem.

Greed.

Why release it in the gold shop, when you can put it out in the cash shop and get a bunch of users to buy it with real money? There's also the fact that anyone who actually did buy Agape for the outrageous price it is would get mad at Gaia, and more rage would happen.

[koolknight]

im sure something will come out eventually... there is always an alternative

[Amy Storm]

They don't even have it on the recolor of the item, I doubt they'll put it in gold shops.

Probably they'll have a similar effect on something else eventually, but I think it'd be a cash shop item.

[IDS Wheatley]

I'd love if it wold happen, but perhaps it should trim a little less of the hair so Agape buyers and owners don't get so upset?

[Milk Kittea]

Blaze the Fire Dragon

As mush as I'd love that, Gaia's never going to do it.

I don't feel like we'll get a cheaper version either.
Gaia creepishly loves its rare and super wanted items. rolleyes For no rational reason really.

[Asashikka]

I feel doubtful that would ever happen.. at least in the gold shop stance. If Gaia were to reproduce a item similar to the agape scissors.. it would likely be another cash shop based item.

[Elen_Gilthoniel]

I don't think that just because a pose is popular or an item is expensive, this means Gaia is obligated to make the popular pose readily available for everyone. I don't really see why people feel so entitled to this. That isn't to say I'm against Gaia releasing a similar pose in another item down the line. But I don't think they need to pull this pose out of its item and shove it into the gold shops just to placate people unwilling to pay the MP price for Agape.

It's not a rare item and it's not really even ultra expensive, comparatively speaking; it's just really, really desired.

I wouldn't mind if another pair of scissors appeared in another item--or if there was any pose with a similar function that appeared in another item. But I honestly don't feel that this pose should become a commodity just because it's highly desired. That seems like a really odd precedent to set...

[Shiori-senpai]

I'd like a goldshop version of the SD Plus Lady Alzbeta hair, the SD Plus Renard hair, that Unicorn hair or whatever it's called. While we're at it, I'd like alternate colors of the Chyaku Norisu scarf put in gold shops as well so I can have as many dramatic scarfs as I need.

The Naruto forum would also like gold shop ninja headbands with different insignias on the front. And there are a lot of people in AT that would like items like the Sandman items and Ringmaster items with gold shop options.

They're all very popular items and Gaia should do this because it's just not fair that the items not be available to everyone who doesn't want to pay 2M+ for them.


DO YOU SEE WHY THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA?

[Lulu the Mainspring Lady]

Two million gold, really, is nothing. I WOULD suggest that it is going to climb, so if you want one, I'd consider it a 'priority' quest.

I don't know why people think they can demand items be given to them for free just because they don't want to work for them. They'd shoot their own real-world profits in the foot if they did that with every item, and for what? So entitled people on the Internet can have a pretty collaboration of pixels to play with, that they'll probably tire of in a week because let's face it, that's what we do with items.

I sometimes wonder if people feel insulted at the idea of working toward a goal. Does this work for them in other areas of life? Simply demand something they want, and they get it? Do they think that because it is a digital item that somehow that doesn't apply, and there's no 'value' attached to their demand?

'Benign', by the by, means favorable (or non-metastatic/cancerous, when referencing tumours). A better word would be 'malignant', however, I disagree wholeheartedly with the idea of inflation being a negative thing, and this coming from someone who just lost something in the region of eight million in item deflation in the last month alone. If there's no flux and wane of item prices, the entire economy stagnates, and I could go into greater depth on that but I'd be going spectacularly off-topic.

So, yes, tl:dr; terrible idea, won't happen.

holy s**t the tips I'm rollin' in it
I should buy a boat

[bizu]

Luboticus

Two million gold, really, is nothing. I WOULD suggest that it is going to climb, so if you want one, I'd consider it a 'priority' quest.

I don't know why people think they can demand items be given to them for free just because they don't want to work for them. They'd shoot their own real-world profits in the foot if they did that with every item, and for what? So entitled people on the Internet can have a pretty collaboration of pixels to play with, that they'll probably tire of in a week because let's face it, that's what we do with items.

I sometimes wonder if people feel insulted at the idea of working toward a goal. Does this work for them in other areas of life? Simply demand something they want, and they get it? Do they think that because it is a digital item that somehow that doesn't apply, and there's no 'value' attached to their demand?

'Benign', by the by, means favorable (or non-metastatic/cancerous, when referencing tumours). A better word would be 'malignant', however, I disagree wholeheartedly with the idea of inflation being a negative thing, and this coming from someone who just lost something in the region of eight million in item deflation in the last month alone. If there's no flux and wane of item prices, the entire economy stagnates, and I could go into greater depth on that but I'd be going spectacularly off-topic.

So, yes, tl:dr; terrible idea, won't happen.

I just about love every single one of your posts. for ******** sake. Why do you do this to me!? gonk

Seriously, if you do the math its easy to buy an agape.
1. CS -> Gold. Its 20 bucks when a new rig comes out for 2mil.
2. Booty Slappan. What's the cap? 150k or something. I can make 50k in an hour (or lol, get a minimum wage job, get 700k in an hour's worth of money) get an alt and thats 300k a day?
Thats less than 10 days of solid "work" (sliding your mouse left and right.)
3 Merchanting. Buy a bunch of items now while theyre deflating ( see: rosamunds revenge, masquerade) and sell them when theyre out of the cash shop.


Its
not
hard.

Play gaia, get "paid" for playing, then PLAY WITH THE ITEMS YOU JUST PLAYED FOR.

^@Thread, not you Lob.

[bizu]

Ghost Tamer

I'd like a goldshop version of the SD Plus Lady Alzbeta hair, the SD Plus Renard hair, that Unicorn hair or whatever it's called. While we're at it, I'd like alternate colors of the Chyaku Norisu scarf put in gold shops as well so I can have as many dramatic scarfs as I need.

The Naruto forum would also like gold shop ninja headbands with different insignias on the front. And there are a lot of people in AT that would like items like the Sandman items and Ringmaster items with gold shop options.

They're all very popular items and Gaia should do this because it's just not fair that the items not be available to everyone who doesn't want to pay 2M+ for them.


DO YOU SEE WHY THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA?

H-Hey your sig changed.

[tiny plant]

♔

that is an awful idea.
firstly, it would be cheating agape owners out of something specifically from that item. i know a fair few people only bought it for that pose, so if there was a rip-off of it in the gold shops or the salon, then understandably it would be annoying and people would complain.
as for something similar, there are plenty of hats and things that chop the hair. it's not as ideal as the scissors, of course, but it's the closest you'll ever get without buying an agape yourself.

also, why would gaia make readily available for free a pose that they can make money off? it would be a silly thing to do, really.

2 million (less for the lower gens, even!) isn't actually that hard to get. i mean, okay i seldom have that much, but comparing it to things like the halo, or the minis, agape is positively cheap! (okay i get that that's a stupid comparison, so i'll say compare it with ceryntian's blessing or lovely lucie or somesuch item)

i don't understand this mindset of "oh well i don't want to work for this exclusive ability, hand it over gaia or i'll /rage everywhere" (okay not everyone's like that, but you would be surprised!). if you want it, you work for it. same as in real life. it's simple really.